I have said it persists in all scociety in some form or other. Class or caste is in every human activity- there is program mannager, under him many math-scienc e workers, then secretarial, then menial staff. Does everyone get paid same, does everyone go to same parties, does every worker from the same company move in the same echelon of social groups. No No
Now come to racism based on skin color. Well it is losing ground and progresivism gaining bit ground. But it is far from over, and it will never be in our time. Christaina are racist, muslim rulers are satrk rascist ( look in Sudan, arab militia killing indigenous tribes). Now if mughals were so equalizers, then harems still so prevalent, my readings say they always copted willingrajputs and chieftains to loot the booties, and conversion coercion was a mere ploy to placate the deprived lot, much to chagrin of khurshid and likes. It exacerbated india, and do more self examination, the causes will reveal itself.
Now Read ancient indian civilization/philosophy. My standrad is vivekananda. He cleraly explains in sanatan sytem (dharma, no hindus then), professions were decided by the choice, otherwise how rabidas sits higher than any moron,murky brahmin. That is where you start, and see for yourself whare this congressi thug is coming from.
So i advise take a thorough look at ancient, medieval and british india, and then take your own decision. donot live on soundbites of burkha.baweja types.
Re: To those who malign Hindus for caste system
by Kumar on May 19, 2010 04:17 AM
Caste System is evil period. It limits the opportunities available to the massess, denies dignity, creates hatred, encourages people who have no skill or talent take up particular profession (for example Brahmins in charge of education!) The result is complete and total destruction of a society.
Re: To those who malign Hindus for caste system
by jaggu on May 17, 2010 09:31 PM
Racism was every where even brits had blue blooded royals and church staff. The family occupations were also frozen by the system of guilds similar to caste in India.
However the Dalits had property and family rights which slaves in Saudi Europe and USA never had.
Re: To those who malign Hindus for caste system
by Ravindra Kumar on May 16, 2010 08:41 PM
a bit explanation. we all talk about personal coice, and there is complete guide line to motivate for coices based on your tasteand talent. our women have far more freedom than any sytem you can imagine. So inervening moghul period done more damage. sati/johar was in reponse to repudiate the onslaught of the foreners mindset that they get to enjoy the women after victories. Well it is past now, donot remain hung up.
remember we live in a dynamic world, and today is much diffrent. do not miss the future again by pulling together, one india, one constititution.
several reservations are breaking that gold standrad of well informed personal choices will move us to a merit based system with safety nets.
brought this malaise that you see in India. Though, British gave some sense of governance, a modern economy ( almost dead in mughals) ending the confusion and chaos of mughal rule. Though both brought rampant religious conversion and coercion, and under this pressure hindu society being at reciving end may have gone defensive to maintain a reactionary posture. Despite this 1000 yeras of misrule and misinformation propagated by moslem-christian rulers, we survuved, and will do very well if sons of babar like kurshid will allow hindus to enjoy the powers and privilleges of a sovereign nation India.
If one nation, one constitution is the name of the game, the we all can thrive and proeper, but how can that happen if SP and RJD is calling congrss anti-muslim, and this darbari politics of khurshid goes on.
Khurshid should have put mattewrs in perspective that India represented by tru BJP and likes never accepted mughal raj, of course congress would love jaychandis and protrays them as desbhakts. So bet it. If religious conversion is proof of a peaceful and prosperous people, then Pakistan is an example, and its atrocities in bangle desh. List goes on if sons og babbar want to change, and accept one nation and one constitution rule, and emancipate your self from international brotherghood and terrorism.
Khurshid, it would be lot better if you and your people get a status of subcaste in india rather than live with morbid mughals past. Then you get a reservation like other
Re: Moghuls were ruthless barbarians , and together with british
by M K on May 17, 2010 10:00 AM
As if you were the witness, of these acts - You are living now and you are a Hindu is a strong proof that there was no barbarism in Mughal rule, they ruled the country for more than 1000 years and if all you said was true then today there will no more temples are hindus here, Think Man think and apply your brains dont go with the politicians
Re: Re: Moghuls were ruthless barbarians , and together with bri
by peraka sreenivas on May 22, 2010 12:10 PM
So are you not satisfied with the millions of Hindus killed by Moghuls in the Afganistan and pakistan regions and 30000 temples destroyed by you. Very typical muslim.
Re: Re: brhmns are foreigners
by mansoor ahmed on May 18, 2010 04:35 PM
British told his book shivajee is a mountain rat.go and read shivajee`s history man.
Small Rajput, Sikh & Maratha groups of less than 10000 people successfully held up army of 2.5 lac moghuls for several centuries...and the story of failed orissa campaign of moghuls is a legend that Military schools must learn!
In retrospect the treatment of sikh gurus by Aurangzed still brings teares to my eyes - I wish
moguls came from central asia which remains a poor place even today. In its entire history, central asia has been a trading route between India, china and europe. But it never has been able to match India in its culture or significance. India amounted for about 40% of the world GDP in 1600's. Not even US achieved that during its peak.
Who says that moguls were great? they were foreigners who came here and imposed their culture on us, tried to forcibly convert us to isslaam and laid the foundations of India's division. It was the descendants of these forcibly converted mooselems who finallly divided India into India and porkistan.
So, mughals did not unite India! mughals actually divided India!
And this book should be released in porkistan and bangladesh, not India becoz thats where those "sons of babur" actually made a homeland for themselves. Luckily, some of our brave Hindoo leaders like Sardar Patel made sure that Hindoos have a land they can call home. And this culture war did not start with mughals! This war started long before mughals, when first mooselem converts attacked India and looted our temples. And this war did not end with porkistan or bangladesh, its still going on.
Re: If moguls were such great people, why are their own states po
by Vijay Mishra on May 16, 2010 11:22 AM
this mulim r dangerous virus they devided india forcefull conversion is the main reson behind it, iam asking to inteligent persons who saying this creation of islam is creating love and respect for all , than why not they r not tolrate if some mooslim girl mary with hindu boy and convert to hindusam or sikhisam, even they r encouraging there males to mary girls with other religon. every one know yhe past, how islam has formed in india but no one have guts to says the fact.. very soon this dangerous virus will creat another pakistan from present i ndia and this mixed famly(italian nehru khan gandhi badera) will work as a catylist in this due process.
Re: Re: If moguls were such great people, why are their own state
by Vijay Mishra on May 16, 2010 11:24 AM
who is this mfuck..golwalkar ? i want to shit on his face
Re: Re: If moguls were such great people, why are their own state
by golwalkar on May 15, 2010 02:41 PM
India amounted for about 40% of the world GDP in 1600's.
because of mzlm rule.sikar which is 80km from delhi ruled by rajputs still have no water.
Re: Re: Re: If moguls were such great people, why are their own s
by Vijay Mishra on May 16, 2010 11:27 AM
IAM SURE YOU GRENDAPPA HAS VERY POLITELY CHANGED HIS RELIGON, GO IN HELL AND ASKED HIM WHAT HE HAD FACED AND WHY HE HAS DONE IT,IT IS NOT DUE TO DIFRENCE BETWEEN SIKAR AND DELHI BUT IT IS DUE TO KICK ON STICKS HE HAVE NO OPTION TO SAVE HIMSELF OTHER THAN CHANGING HIS RELIGON
