Re: Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Right Conc
by syed jawahar on Mar 30, 2010 06:16 PM
dont behave like frog in a well... Hinduism scripts have been corrupted at different ages as it is the oldest.
Re: Re: Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Right
by kranti anand on Mar 30, 2010 06:37 PM
nothing is currupted only you guys are trying to prove that it is currupted just to prove that you are the best...come out of it
Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Right Concepts
by sk on Mar 30, 2010 06:10 PM
this reply applies to you as well, please read...
Friend, I don’t want to criticize any one unnecessarily. As an Indian I am proud of my heritage and traditions.
But problem is some of people in our society really believe that we were really technically very advanced and solved every scientific problem of the world even before western folks climbed down the trees.
If anyone wants claim such things they have show some proof. Four or five very cryptic Sanskrit/arabic verses are not called as proof in this age of scientific research. Sometimes these verses contradict with itself in the same article.
If you check nowadays technical research, even a small step forward is only possible because of some hundred years of earlier work and finding. Societies create very elaborate methods to continue their work for hundreds of years or generations. They create methods to store, analyze and forward data for future generations.
Only very few technical thing can be achieved from an individual work. Which was the case of our technical research history. Some of bright individuals worked on mathamatics, logic and languages. Nothing more than that.
As society our earlier generation lacked all that essential to solve or find technical things.
Re: Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Right Conc
by syed jawahar on Mar 30, 2010 06:15 PM
Iam not critisizing anyone here... IAM PRESENTING THE FACTS which no one ready to accept because of fear !
Re: Re: Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Right
by Sachin Deshpande on Mar 30, 2010 06:19 PM
fear ... thats why people became musis during islamic invasion ... now they wont accept it !!!
Re: Re: Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Right
by sk on Mar 30, 2010 06:19 PM
you misunderstood my post. I wasn't accussing you of any critization. That was my reply to some other poster. I just pasted it here, since it is relevant.
about your facts!!! you haven't produced any of them yet... Please do it...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Read Quran to know Science and Technology with Ri
by Sachin Deshpande on Mar 30, 2010 06:21 PM
true ... just shouting it is in Vedas and Quran ... what i there nothing ... a good humanitarian poetry
Creation of Universe is described in detail in Srimad Bhagavatam . To understand the process fully one must recognize that the universe consists not only of matter but spirit or consciousness as well . Physicists do not make any differnce between matter and cosciousness which is a great mistake . According to vedic concept there are two universes , one consisting of only spirit or consciousness and other of dead matter which is kept moving by conscious energy or Jivas. Second type of universe ( the one we are familiar with) is a shadow of the superior type of Universe and is called Mahat- Tattva .Mahat Tattva is initially in un manifested form though it contains all the matter and spirit of the inferior type of Universe . Most possibly mysterious dark matter as encountered by the physicists is this Mahat Tattva . Gradually part of this Mahat Tattva manifests itself into matter characterised by 5 gross elemnts viz . Earth, water, Fire, Air ,and ether as also 3 subtle elements viz Mind , Intelligence and false ego , by which spirit soul is bound into the gross body and identifies itself to be matter only due to ignorance . This ignorance comes from the dark mysterious matter which is the cause of this universe .
Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by vidwan soni on Mar 30, 2010 06:02 PM
A pseudo-scientist with half cooked knowledge is proposing meaningless theories. Dont say everything was there in Vedas. Then why had you been sleeping all these (hundreds of) years. Study physics deeply & then talk. If thre is sense in your proposals, send that to Journal Science or Nature. Dont always say PITRAM SULTAN BOO!
Re: Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by ko sru on Mar 30, 2010 06:08 PM
oh dear soni this modern science physics or chemistry what ever may be full of bullshit and lies. we r just wasting our time to learn and byheart this and following those foolishness.
Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by amitabh vohra on Mar 30, 2010 06:36 PM
DITTO and Sk has written which many indians do not want to accept out of patriotism, but truth is not what we percieve of ourselves but what others think of us and barring a few achievements on IT front we are still percieved to be a country of snake charmers......amit
Re: Big Bang experiment
by sk on Mar 30, 2010 05:57 PM
Friend, I don’t want to criticize any one unnecessarily. As an Indian I am proud of my heritage and traditions. But problem is some of people in our society really believe that we were really technically very advanced and solved every scientific problem of the world even before western folks climbed down the trees. If anyone wants claim such things they have show some proof. Four or five very cryptic Sanskrit verses are not called as proof in this age of scientific research. Sometimes these verses contradict with itself in the same article. If you check nowadays technical research, even a small step forward is only possible because of some hundred years of earlier work and finding. Societies create very elaborate methods to continue their work for hundreds of years or generations. They create methods to store, analyze and forward data for future generations. Only very few technical thing can be achieved from an individual work. Which was the case of our technical research history. Some of bright individuals worked on mathamatics, logic and languages. Nothing more than that. As society our earlier generation lacked all that essential to solve or find technical things.
Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by ko sru on Mar 30, 2010 06:13 PM
u r wrong dear. this foreigners took our scriptures and reproduced as modern science. exapmple trignometry was our own product. but we are learning as cartisian ( i dont know exact name) theory. then come to photosynthesis, creation of food by leaves with the use of light". this is also written in our books that the food is the blessing of devas. dev in clear meaning is light. in 15 to 18 centuries they came and learned sanskrit and transferred in their language and reproduced old wine in new bottle and selling it. we are blindly believing it. we r not conducting any scientific research here to believe whether modern science is ture or not. just reading their books and reproducing like an audio or video.
Re: Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by Ravi Kumar on Mar 30, 2010 06:36 PM
ko sru, your comments are derogatory and filled with regional hatred.. why allege others based on your theory of foreign vs domestic etc.. When did you realize you were Indian.. You labeled yourself as Indian after people around you talked in that way..If you were born in Lahore prior to partition, would you be an Indian or Pakistani... Transcend from your bodily concept of life, and elevate your thoughts..
Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by Sachin Deshpande on Mar 30, 2010 06:00 PM
very true ... it takes decades of research to make engines ... not by reading books for few years ...
Re: Re: Re: Big Bang experiment
by Ravi Kumar on Mar 30, 2010 06:32 PM
So you think Engines are the accomplishment of your science. Dude.. No Offence meant.. You are a walking engine, that generates energy in a non combustible way.. And who the scientist created you..
We, Indians being super intelligent creatures are prone to intitiating destructive criticism towards each and every event..let us for once see the positives and appreciate..remember,little knowledge is always dangerous,and let us not be toads inside a pond,let us not be like cancer patients..
Lets appreciate,this world will shine with happiness...
Re: This will be used to do nuclear tests
by siva sarav on Mar 30, 2010 05:50 PM
hi all this for Food, did any one trying do man can live with out food, if man can live with out food there is no relegion and all this science ..
