Re: Wrong assumption
by vikas sethi on Mar 06, 2010 01:17 PM
Check your BMC report why tax collection has gone up before you make such comments in a public forum.
Re: Re: Wrong assumption
by BHARAT on Mar 06, 2010 01:24 PM
agreed collection gone up....then why should one distribute his desrving benifits to the migrants...
Re: Re: Re: Wrong assumption
by vikas sethi on Mar 06, 2010 01:50 PM
first read the report how collection has gone up - specially contribution of migrants then comment.
btw, this is a report by Shiv Sena controlled BMC.
Once Mumbai is choked completely if not already - they will turn their attention to Pune which is much larger in area terms and so ripe to pack in migrants.
Then it will be the turn of the Konkan coast
Then it will be neighbouring districts whether Nashik or Kolhapur...
In a couple of decades we will hear similar nonsense that only UP/Bihar people have built all of western Maharashtra.
Heck they may even claim that UP/Bihar have stocked the Arabian sea with water pulled from their precious Ganges.
Re: The target is not just Mumbai....
by saarvesh tari on Mar 06, 2010 01:17 PM
HEE ALREADY REACH IN EVERY PART OF INDIA ..Up n bihar is a dirty place yaak ...Mr thakre is great n all maharashtrian loves himmm
The Thookh-erays still do not realize that they are unwanted in Mumbai even by Maharashtrians. The Thookh-erays and their followers should be given a small state in the remote part of Bihar and exported
Re: Re: Thackerays
by mohan gupta on Mar 06, 2010 01:18 PM
UP and Bihar is a very beatiful place but you can say the poiticians yuk. Politicians have destroyed UP and Bihar. The most intelligent and hardworking people are from North. Mind you they come here for job and make their lively hood by working hard.
Re: Re: Re: Thackerays
by Pradeep Tondwalkar on Mar 06, 2010 03:05 PM
The come here for job and make their lively hood.. upto this ok, what about when they do politics and create vote bank, they talk about using lathis against the locals , that shame less Abu azmi and Sanjay nirupam was asking these bhayyas to unite to fight against locals.. how is this justified?
Re: Thackerays
by soutik das on Mar 06, 2010 01:24 PM
If this kind of feeling continues then one day BT will bar people from Vidharva region to come to Mumbai on the issue that they would spread filth in the city. Migrants are not only people from outside the satte bt from inside distant locations as well. Indian media is highlighting the issue and in this way creating a rift among us which was previously within us but now out in the open..
Re: WHEN I AM AN INDIAN?
by soutik das on Mar 06, 2010 01:26 PM
If this kind of feeling continues then one day BT will bar people from Vidharva region to come to Mumbai on the issue that they would spread filth in the city. Migrants are not only people from outside the satte bt from inside distant locations as well. Indian media is highlighting the issue and in this way creating a rift among us which was previously within us but now out in the open..
Thackeray has gone senile. He sees his only road to power is migrant bashing because they are so successful by their hard work and the local population want to achieve that sucess only by driving them out and not working hard. So easy picking for a politician whose only agenda is seeking power without development
Re: Re: Senile Tiger
by mohan gupta on Mar 06, 2010 01:21 PM
Get your facts all Maharashtrian do not love him. Hence his government is not there in Maharashtra.Shiv sena had formed government only once and only because BJP supported him
Re: Re: Re: Senile Tiger
by jayapalan jayapalan on Mar 06, 2010 01:28 PM
MOHAN GUPTA YOU ARE VERY SENSIBLE. NO EDUCATED OR COMMON MAN/WOMAN WITH SENSE WOULD BOTHER HIM. HE IS DIVIDING THE STATE. HAVE YOU SEEN ANY GOOD PERSON WITH HIM ?
Hindus r not understanding why their votes r important ! they r thinking that all the available parties r already more or less anti-Hindu or pro-minority or becoming anti-hindu in long run! so, if they vote or not vote, it will not make any difference and due to those parties behavior against them , they r instead abstaining from voting!
and that's the mistake! as thus the governments r being formed of so called minority (muslims & Christians) supported ! it's a ridiculous situation of our country ! nobody wants to understand the real situation! Muslims & christians votes to one main party , which got more minority votes than hindu votes to win within a lesser percentage of out poll as hindu votes r divided to dalit parties also! though still hindu voters r more than minority but when comparing voting share for any particular seat, hindu votes come to minority! and thus those parties r being bound to listen to them even,the elected cadidates r mostly hindu but to remain in power, they will have to listen to the maximum voters for which they came to power! now, minority votes r the decider to elect a candidate! but for any seat, if hindus votes to the maximum, then the situation will be reverse! present situation is that nearly 50% hindus r not voting!
as those political parties r now being governed by so called minority community, they r bound to appease them or listen to their due or undue demand !
Re: solution to stop muslim&Christian appeasement policy of a
by sanjeev ganguly on Mar 06, 2010 01:03 PM
Contd.. this prejudice may go if maximum Hindus r voting! then the govt. will be dependant on Hindu votes as that time Muslim & Christians votes will come to minority while counting Hindu votes and thus the govt. will have to care Hindu also and expectedly, that govt. will be impartial and will have to think for all and at least anti-Hindu activities like miraj riot , anti-Hindu govt. act like that of samuel reddy,andhra will not happen!
to enhance the above, voting shud be made compulsory ! hardcopy proofless soft EVM system shud be repealed for having chances of pre-programming, corruption , electronic error and instead manual Paper Ballot system shud be resumed for having hardcopy proof ! when , we all will vote, then, no govt. will dare to play afterwards with majority, as then the govt. will be formed of majority supported, not minority supported and will not be dependant on minority votes ! change of governance will be fated at majority hindus’ wish! now, for the present situation, actually govt. r indirectly encouraging for not to vote by all as once implemented, it will effect all parties! their position can not be granted as stable! if they were really serious on voting by all citizen , then they wud have already made voting compulsory ! i strongly feel that if we can implement compulsory voting by all & resume manual paper ballot system , we will be able to change india and india will become a real strong democracy !
Re: Re: solution to stop muslim&Christian appeasement policy
by sanjeev ganguly on Mar 06, 2010 01:03 PM
Contd… compulsory voting will bind everybody to cast their vote which will reflect real choice of india! govt. will not dare to act against hindus as all r voting, not by majority of voters from minority community ! so, govt. will fear that when they r binding everybody to vote, if majority of those voters who r literally now abstaining from voting, do vote against them, then they will be out of power! that way, we can erase the minority appeasement policy of all govt. by almost 100% voting (supposed to be made compulsory with manual Paper Ballot system) ! also, that way, we can save our hindu religion and a total revolution of Hinduism can be dreamt because that time we can bind our government for not to act against hinduism and also that time, govt. will have to listen us as for the same present reason under which they r listening now to so called minority community!
Re: solution to stop muslim&Christian appeasement policy of a
by Mohinibartake on Mar 06, 2010 01:12 PM
the article is on Mumbai migrants and not appeasement of minorities, get your facts right do not creat a discord unneccessarily!! Its the majority of voter mistake to do not come out of the house to vote...if they wanted a change
Re: First say Kashmir is for all
by Haramohan Roy on Mar 06, 2010 01:05 PM
We hope that you know that Kashmir became a part of India in 1948 after an Instrument of Accession signed by Hari Singh (the then ruler of Kashmir) where there were some conditions. We believe that you know that as per international protocol India is bound to observe those conditions as mentioned in an international treaty.
Now, please tell us if there are similar such conditions regarding Mumbai. If not, then what is the problem for all Indians to live in Mumbai?
Re: Re: First say Kashmir is for all
by Vivek Dev on Mar 06, 2010 02:06 PM
@Haramohan Roy - those conditions were supposed to be temporary measures towards full integration, not permanent conditions. The Congis fooled the Indians and never did anything to withdraw those conditions. Get those conditions withdrawn first.
Mumbai has enough people from outside. These people carry their feudal values with them and dont fit in with the progressive values of Maharashtra. They want to turn the state into another UP-Bihar which we do not want to happen.
Re: Re: Re: First say Kashmir is for all
by Haramohan Roy on Mar 06, 2010 01:08 PM
Oh, is it terrorism to talk of international treaties? I did not know it!!!
Re: Re: First say Kashmir is for all
by Vivek Dev on Mar 06, 2010 02:00 PM
@Haramohan Roy- Indian laws dont apply in Kashmir. You cannot go and settle in Kashmir, you cannot alos buy land in Kashmir. First allow all that scrap Art 370 then say Kashmir belongs to India. Mere instrument of accession means zilch.