Arabs were able to conqer Afghanistan from Buddhist. If a sizebale population of converts is achieved, it can maintain the gains, even after the force has long gone.
Re: By using relegion as weapon
by salim on Jul 10, 2010 09:55 AM
So how Mongols who were pagans and conquered Mulzims land,ended up becoming mulizns finally? You guys always cite,mulimza conquered the lands and forced the people to accept their religion,now the opposite happnes in Mongol's case But finally the conquererors also embraced Isalm. That is the power of truth.
Re: Re: By using relegion as weapon
by Rahul Punjabi on Jul 10, 2010 02:09 PM
this truth ius reponsible for mmany massacres and destruction of so many civilizations. I am sure 72thing is truth too
Re: Re: Re: By using relegion as weapon
by Rahul Punjabi on Jul 10, 2010 02:15 PM
Also after converting same matto, Kaul, Pandit in valley think India is colonial power in kashmir and have driven away their own blood brothers kashmiri pandits ( punishment for not converting and not hating India)
Re: Re: By using relegion as weapon
by yeda peda on Jul 11, 2010 11:34 AM
Salim ..the relegion thing you spread is all stupidity..any one can pray to god directly..that is the power of truth..that is real truth..
The US is a country with the most fearsome war-machine on earth.
What is the population of Afghanistan ? It is a mere 29,021,099
Why should the US have so many problems in that country when they have the best trained soldiers, with the best equipment, tactics and firepower and munitions in the world ?
What we need is democratic nations coming together and ruling Afghanistan after thoroughly decimating both the Taliban and Pakistan.
Pakistan is the root of the problem in Afghanistan. Even during the Soviet occupation, it was armed Mujahideen from Pakistan who kept pouring into Afghanistan to keep the war going.
A policy of total extermination needs to be followed when it comes to the Tribal areas of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
We want to reduce the population of these tribal areas by 99% and also we want to completely devastate Pakistan so that it is no longer capable of supporting an insurgency.
We hope that day comes when Indians, Europeans and Americans - THE BIG THREE, fight together to make this reality come true.
Re: All this looks like Leftists, Defeatist talk.
by salim on Jul 10, 2010 09:53 AM
The devout yews in Israel dont hold power today.It is the atheists zionists who rule it. Infact Pious yews are mocked upon,humiliated and discriminated against in Israel. Such was the brotherhood of yews and Mulzins who share the monotheistic faith,The Golden Age of yews was not in Europe,it was in Mulzins spain. Thousands of yews marched against Zinoisms in TelAviv ,but hardly any media reported it. Yesterday a group of 2000 yews protested against the visit of Netnayahau ,calling him a war criminal. The days are coming soon, Muzlims and yews embrace each other as happened in Spain and in ottaman Turkey
Re: Re: All this looks like Leftists, Defeatist talk.
by jaggu on Jul 10, 2010 11:25 AM
If reward is coming from Almighty why does ISI , LeT and Al-Queda distribute it - are they franchisee? And if yes then Govts of teh world must ban such belief. Any way the martyrdom can only happen at the hands of merciful kafirs in Jihad - who as gate keepers to jannat are more important to Islam than you thought.
"Because of the obsession with Saddam, Afghanistan was allowed to rot."
"But for many Afghans now, they are respectable -- as the Taliban provides security."
"Taliban are the voice of rural Pashtun conservatism.For years now, the Pashtuns have been ignored in Kabul and are largely excluded from power. The Pashtuns resist the regime and ..."
"Besides, given the corruption in the country, the army could be bought over by the Taliban. Even without the money incentive, many soldiers could join the Taliban as they surround Kabul and are about to take over. Karzai too might do it."
"Pakistan feels sandwiched by India. Because of this fear the ISI (Inter Services Intelligence) in Pakistan is holding tenaciously to its Taliban connections."
"I wish India could have said to Pakistan, 'We understand Afghanistan is your backyard but ..."
"Right now, Kashmir and Afghanistan are two sides of a proxy war. One of the reasons the Taliban is coming back is not just because of the anger against America and the allies but as a result of Pakistan's paranoia."
"In an ideal world, I feel India could take a lead and reduce the money spent on defence by about 20 per cent and encourage Pakistan to do so."
"What if the Chinese, while fighting the Muslim insurgents in its bor
Re: LOOKS LIKE PAID AGENT OF ISI
by this that on Jul 09, 2010 08:05 PM
SO PAKIS ARE FREE TO KILL TALIBANS AND CHINESE ARE INNOCENTLY GETTING IN BUT THE PROBLEM IS WITH INDIA HELPING AFGHANS WITH ROADS AND HOSPITALS.
Re: LOOKS LIKE PAID AGENT OF ISI
by this that on Jul 09, 2010 08:48 PM
CORRECTION. SO PAKIS ARE FREE TO KILL AFGHANS THROUGH THE TALIBANS AND CHINESE ARE INNOCENTLY GETTING IN BUT THE PROBLEM IS WITH INDIA HELPING AFGHANS WITH ROADS AND HOSPITALS.
After shooting talibans , US Army can conduct a 30 year peaceful curfew and to make it possible they can do Muta or islamic temperory marriage that is allowed to all kafir men. This will help to create a new breed of lovable afghani in the years to come.
The best approach to solve Afghan conflict is PARTITION. Partition of Afghanistan into Pashtun Afghanistan and Non Pashtun (Tajik,Uzbek,Hazara etc.).
United States should control around 55% of population(Non Pashtun) including Kabul.
The resultant scenario will be Taliban Controlled South Afghanistan and and America,Russia,India and Iran Supported North Afghanistan.North Afghanistan army will be supported by US and Nato air force and special forces.That is the only way to combat AlQaida/Taliban instead of complete withdrawl by 2011.
Many people in Washington and London are evaluating this approach.
Re: A suggestion to General David Petraeus
by habib jamrose on Jul 09, 2010 03:17 PM
FYI already they tried their level best to do what you are suggesting, but failed. Their days are numbered in Afghanistan. For your further information, USA and allies have used all sorts of weapons, all sorts of conspiracies and all sorts of technologies against Afghan Mujahideens in these TEN YEARS and still unable to defeat them, and in the process they are getting stripped economically and are in INTENSIVE CARE UNIT. If you are living in this world you might have observed all this. Now the helpless USA and allies are begging help from the whole world, specilly they are flattering India and trying their level best to involve in this anti humanity war, which India is avoiding till date. Do you know India and Afghanistan have cordial historic relations and were very much attached to each other in COLD WAR ERA. Still a majority of Afghanis respect India. Lastly, first update your knowledge on the topic and then write.
Re: Re: A suggestion to General David Petraeus
by mailerumsfield on Jul 09, 2010 04:51 PM
historically more determined cannot be defeated by less determined.afghans are ready to die nato&its ally no.
Re: Re: Re: A suggestion to General David Petraeus
by jaggu on Jul 09, 2010 05:46 PM
If that is the concensus the nuking Afpak is appropriate global solution. also since all muslim nations are supposed to rejoice martyrdom , reaction should be positive.
Re: Re: Re: Re: A suggestion to General David Petraeus
by habib jamrose on Jul 09, 2010 10:30 PM
Jaggu dear if nuking is so easily possible USSR (now a matter of past), would have used it long back. Wishful thinking and day dreaming is not prohibited. Whole Chyrnobil is vanished by a slight leakage and European suffered lose motions. Do you remember that? Nuking Afghanistan means burning whole of the sub-continent India, Russia, Iran, and Central Asian countries. Do you want that? Ventilation of non-sense sentiments is a show of sick mentality. Moreover, for a muslim, martyrdom is a biggest REWARD from the ALMIGHTY GOD. By the way, whoever is born has to die a day or other. LIFE IS UNCERTAIN BUT DEATH IS CERTAIN. Always remember this.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A suggestion to General David Petraeus
by Santosh on Jul 10, 2010 11:44 AM
Mr Habib
You seem to be a practical man. If all people were as wise thinking as you this world would have been a better place for our next generation. 1. How can afghanistanis (incliding Taliban) make situations where other nations come to their country to discipline them. 2. Why are pakistanis areinvolved in politics of neighbouring countries neglecting their own country's well being. 3. India has learned its lessons (Internal fighting leads to foreign rule - British in 18th century, Trying to play role in other country will harm us in the long run - LTTE support). The day our country men realised this and started focusing on the positive aspects of building the nation, India went in to fast track growth to being a Developed country. I pray in future we dont behave like Americans (Trying to be world police) We need to learn lessons from their (USA's) mistakes
The best approach to solve Afghan conflict is PARTITION. Partition of Afghanistan into Pashtun Afghanistan and Non Pashtun (Tajik,Uzbek,Hazara etc.).
United States should control around 55% of population(Non Pashtun) including Kabul.
The resultant scenario will be Taliban Controlled South Afghanistan and and America,Russia,India and Iran Supported North Afghanistan.North Afghanistan army will be supported by US and Nato air force and special forces.That is the only way to combat AlQaida/Taliban instead of complete withdrawl by 2011.
Many people in Washington and London are evaluating this approach.
the warlike pashthuns will never submit to anyone..their dedication to religion is well recorded even during buddist era in afgan.wen USA leaves the so called afgan national army can't stand and fight for 1 hour
Re: ??
by jaggu on Jul 09, 2010 05:48 PM
when US finally leave , they would have exhausted all Afghani resources and women. As such what will be left to fight for ?
