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Ravinder Watts
Peace with Pakistan is chasing a mirage.
by Ravinder Watts on Feb 13, 2010 01:44 PM

India Broke Pakistan in 1971. Since then Pakistan is trying to destablise India and had created terrorists from the roots. A common man in Pakistan may be working hard to earn daily meals and at the same time be a Musalmaan and stick to his Mazahab as per his Holy Book. He had neither knowledge nor time to read Whatever is told to him by a Mullah on Jumme Ki Namaz is his source of knowledge. His mind is influenced by the vested interest may he be a politician or a Mullah. Hindu Dharma appears to him as the practices done by some people against him. Hatred is seen in the eyes of Muslims of Pakistan you see them in any part of the world. Madarsas are churning out terrorists. Country that had been carved out of Hindustan cannot sit silent. Hatred is the most powerful trait in man. It is foolishness to say that Indians can win the heart of Muslims who are bigots may be living
in any part of the world.
Our Prime minister Manmohan Singh had lost the opportunity to justify. He had proved to be the weakest P.M. of India. Pakistani Diplomats are extremely cunning. The Gentleman P.M. has proved to be a PONGA PANDIT.

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surjeet ghorpade
Wonderful article
by surjeet ghorpade on Feb 13, 2010 12:52 AM

Dr. Athale has written nice article.
If we look into Indian History textbook, our books also teach us Islamic history.
Primarily, CBSE/ICSE and many North Indian State boards books show Mughal emporer as Great.Because of this Hindu young generation have feeling of Inferiority complex.
This can easily noticed while watching Hindi news channel,news composer/news reader and even personally I noticed many of my friends from Delhi/Haryana, have no knowledge of our true history and so always promote secularism and condemn Shivsena/RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal as if these are anti-indian organisation.

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MONICA ATUL
Mr Asharwee
by MONICA ATUL on Feb 12, 2010 06:15 PM

I am at a loss to understand why all those who think that young Indians are against muslims have an aversion to Israel.What has that nion done bad for us?Why shoul you as an Indian cant think about India first and a muslim second ,your forefathers must have had some good sense taht they stayed on here tahn going across the borders,give them respect for that , if a certain leader i swrong ,why should that be the only rallying point for all muslims, why cant you look up to the lumanaries that ur community has given the nation.Dont keep thinking petty rise and empower with education, its our country and we have arrived in the world so lets all stand up and seek our place under the sun. By the way had to rush back from d East becz kids there wouldnt let my 6 yr old live peacefully as he was not one of them meaning he is a non muslim,my kid had several adjustment problems after that but venot let him seek refuge in hatred.

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MONICA ATUL
Mr Asharwee
by MONICA ATUL on Feb 12, 2010 06:14 PM

I am at a loss to understand why all those who think that young Indians are against muslims have an aversion to Israel.What has that nion done bad for us?Why shoul you as an Indian cant think about India first and a muslim second ,your forefathers must have had some good sense taht they stayed on here tahn going across the borders,give them respect for that , if a certain leader i swrong ,why should that be the only rallying point for all muslims, why cant you look up to the lumanaries that ur community has given the nation.Dont keep thinking petty rise and empower with education, its our country and we have arrived in the world so lets all stand up and seek our place under the sun. By the way had to rush back from d East becz kids there wouldnt let my 6 yr old live peacefully as he was not one of them meaning he is a non muslim,my kid had several adjustment problems after that but venot let him seek refuge in hatred.

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Suman Bhat
congress is anti ppl anti national
by Suman Bhat on Feb 12, 2010 05:06 PM

it is congress party is playing worst appeasment and decesive and vote bank politics One day rahul gandhi will go dalit house will release photes to media
one he will go deobandi cleric and will say anybody (including muslim minorities ) can become PM
In mumbai he said mumbai is for everyindia, any indian can go anypart of india can work stay ...how hypocrite..
Rhaul gandhi should take 7lac displaced kashmiri pundits to valley back & give them their properties with respectable living
one of congress leader visited azamgad and families of accused in Batla encounter and called it fake and same upa govt home minister is briefing media that GOI has special plan to fecilitate POK youths and they are welcome bcuz POK is ind territory
it is congress party only gifted part of valley to kashmiri
there were reports some part of sikkim and Aarunchal predesh were occupied by chaina & bangladesi illegal immigrants are taking place WB and assam
congress only playing politics with Telengana in Andra and Vidrba in Maha
congress party is most communal and anti national and
upa anti ppl likepirice hike farmer suicside coruption upa govt is failure in all front of goverennece NOT A SINGLE TERRORIST HAS NOT PUNISHED IN LAST 6 YRS there were 72 terror attack in last 6 yrs which are directly connected pak terror groups


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Suman Bhat
congress is anti ppl anti national
by Suman Bhat on Feb 12, 2010 05:06 PM

it is congress party is playing worst appeasment and decesive and vote bank politics One day rahul gandhi will go dalit house will release photes to media
one he will go deobandi cleric and will say anybody (including muslim minorities ) can become PM
In mumbai he said mumbai is for everyindia, any indian can go anypart of india can work stay ...how hypocrite..
Rhaul gandhi should take 7lac displaced kashmiri pundits to valley back & give them their properties with respectable living
one of congress leader visited azamgad and families of accused in Batla encounter and called it fake and same upa govt home minister is briefing media that GOI has special plan to fecilitate POK youths and they are welcome bcuz POK is ind territory
it is congress party only gifted part of valley to kashmiri
there were reports some part of sikkim and Aarunchal predesh were occupied by chaina & bangladesi illegal immigrants are taking place WB and assam
congress only playing politics with Telengana in Andra and Vidrba in Maha
congress party is most communal and anti national and
upa anti ppl likepirice hike farmer suicside coruption upa govt is failure in all front of goverennece NOT A SINGLE TERRORIST HAS NOT PUNISHED IN LAST 6 YRS there were 72 terror attack in last 6 yrs which are directly connected pak terror groups


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Rhazes Ashrawi
athale's article
by Rhazes Ashrawi on Feb 12, 2010 04:07 PM  | Hide replies

Mr Athale in his blind hatred for Islam and Muslims has missed many valid points. Samjhauta express, malegaon, Gujarat genocide is not even mentioned. The so called responsible head of a state had openly orchestrated a genocide against nearly 5000 innocent Indians just because they happened to believe in a religion that is not Hinduism. Worst still this leader is still alive and kicking ,admired by many Indians and powerful as ever. No charges,no arrests have been made.So much for fair and democratic India.Half a million forces of the military, para military and poice are holding the Kashmiri Muslims against their will while raping torture,'encounter killings' are freely allowed. An entire valley is under siege. So much for democratic India and freedom of citizens. Mumbai 11 is constantly used as an excuse while there are daily Mumbai 11's and even sept 11's in Pakistan almost everyday.
India's undue and uncalled for mischievous interference in Afghanistan and Baluchistan is not referred to or mentioned.
About indian history text books what is he talking about. These had been completely doctored distorted during the BJP rule and young people still look upon their Muslim co-citizens with hate and suspicion because of false interpretation by historians.
There are millions of Hindu Indians living working and enjoying their lives in the countries of the Middle east and Gulf earning fabulous amounts of money they cant even dream of in India.Athale is pro-Israeli. That says it all.

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Aniruddh Sharma
Re: athale's article
by Aniruddh Sharma on Feb 12, 2010 04:40 PM
The blasts in pakistan are the handiworks of religious fanatics.And which book has been changed by BJP?Sometime back a catholic woman stepped down to give her post to a sikh guy who took oath from a Muslim president in a country of 80% Hindus.Get ur facts staright Rhazes.We do not condone Godhra, Babri or any blasts.At least we have initiated enquiry.Pak has vehemently denied the existence of terrorism or terrorists and in turn blamed the so called non-state actors.See how many Muslims are in the entertainment industry.I have never heard of a Hindi enjoying the same freedom in Pak. Your country was born out of hatred and that's what u will propagate. Both our countries were independent at the same time. We are the 2nd fastest growing economy in the world and ur country has gone bankrupt.When a country is obsessed with it's religion , this is what will happen. Grow up.

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Mohan Raja
Re: athale's article
by Mohan Raja on Feb 12, 2010 04:23 PM
u idiot,

those two blasts were also done by the jehadis.

your fear of Israel looms large ?. A small Israel has defeated all the muzlims nations. ha ha ha

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surjeet ghorpade
Re: athale's article
by surjeet ghorpade on Feb 13, 2010 12:24 AM
I think what Thackrey has written in Saamna is true "Khan has shown his Khan-ness". This is not only true for Sharukh Khan but also other Muslims living in India such as Mr.Ashrawi.
Bhai jaan first read true history and than talk about mistakes of Hindus. If u have so problem of India better go to pakistan/Gulf.
if u think Indian are earning more in Gulf,its because they are hardworking and not terrorist.


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Jacob
Re: athale's article
by Jacob on Feb 12, 2010 04:47 PM
I think, even if you are right, you shouldnt ignore the fact that its between two nations that the fight is all about. Internal things are still critizied and are in courts. Pakistan is the root cause everyone knows and regarding india mischief in afganistan, no proof has been given yet. The reason why other indians in india look at muslims in suspicion cause for muslims their religion becomes one country than the country the live in. Look at you, you are least concerned at the pakistani terrorism, and are saying that pak is a victim and others in india are killing other indians. Leave yoru muslim in public and people will respect you to be not extremist. Search within you and you will find the true answer. Country is above all, religion, caste and territory.

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shilpy
so, now terror has another name
by shilpy on Feb 12, 2010 10:00 AM

"dark forces". indians love to spend their time describing stuff rather than confronting the problem head on.

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Fazal Curmally
Peace with Pakistan: Chasing a mirage
by Fazal Curmally on Feb 12, 2010 09:05 AM  | Hide replies

Colonel Dr Anil Athale (retd, makes his premise that Pakistan does not want peace with India. Now let us reverse the question. Does India want peace with Pakistan?

India broke off talks after 26/11 on the premise that Pakistan was guilty. Did Pakistan make such a premise with the Samjhota Express case?

If India thinks terrorism has not taken root on its soil, then it is fooling itself. Dawood Ebreahim and Abu Jindal are not Pakistanis and neither is Colonel Purohit. I believe there were 8 exchanges of irrefutable evidence of LeT involvement in Pakistan and despite that there are questions that need answers.This is why, India has expressed its desire to resume peace talks.

Pakistan is a state under siege because of USA's incompetence in Afghanistan and under terrorist attacks itself to be bothered to launch terrorist attacks on India.

Let us hope these talks are meaningful and something good comes out. It will be to the benefit of both Nations.


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Miten Shah
Re: Peace with Pakistan: Chasing a mirage
by Miten Shah on Feb 12, 2010 09:42 AM
Well Rediff blocks ip address from Pakistan for this very reason, that white colored jihadi agents like you dont spam with messages and spoil the tone of discussion.

Well here is the deal, let me expose you as a jihadi sympataiser outside of Pakistan by not marking your message as abusive and let the FBI do the rest of tracking your ip address.

Rest assured.





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aquarius
Re: Peace with Pakistan: Chasing a mirage
by aquarius on Feb 12, 2010 05:54 PM
every time some excuse and blame experts,
the convition given by the Col. is far more evident and clear than the one by this blogger.
Pakistan and their citizens are only obsessed with the thought of destruction, may it be their own home, state country or their neighboring country India or Afghanistan, Iran or any other part of the world. their all acts are based on their religious clerics rather than on any reasonable thing.
in order to deny the Colonel's writeups they again come up with reasons like cancellation of 26/11 or samjhauta express (remember this service was initiated by GOI), 26/11 was masterminded by pakistanies which is accepted all over the world.
Can any one answer one reason to play cricket with a country which is the core of many terrorists activities in the past, with whom India has encountered many wars in the past 60 yrs.
I think playing cricket or any other activity other than plain diplomacy for the disputes is the only thing that we should be carrying on with this country.
no more sports/people to people contact blah-blah-blah


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Aniruddh Sharma
Re: Peace with Pakistan: Chasing a mirage
by Aniruddh Sharma on Feb 12, 2010 04:49 PM
Pakistan is under siege because of being obsessed with it's religion.Bcoz of using terror as a state instrument.Becoz of being born out of hatred for India.Both the countries gained their independence at the same time.While we are known as the 2nd fastest growing economy in this world with millions of opportunities, Pak is known as the hotbed for International terrorism of all kinds.The likes of D'wood Ibrahim will face a lesson soon bcoz they are the offshoots of ur ideology.Ur country still owes us 300 crores. U r going bankrupt and are living on aid since a decade. Our economy is 21 times more than ur's. We have better things to do than think abt u and ur so called jihadists. Kashmir is an integral part of India and that is non-negotiable.We will resume talks with an open mind but will not accept untoward demands.

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Mookiah Iyengar
India :Pak and peace
by Mookiah Iyengar on Feb 12, 2010 08:48 AM  | Hide replies

I do not know how this guy got his doctoarte; he equates apartheid policy to jihadhism; I am glad this guy is retired. It will be sad if Indian army is predominant with this kind of guys. Honestly, Indian foreign policy apparatus is not seeking peace with Pak; it is the US pressure which is making the Indians do the talks. I am sure people like this author would have advised the Indian govt to venture into Afghanisthan and ended up in a colossal failure. It is time to ignore these idiots and start having a fresh look at Indian poreign policy in the neigborhood.

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Miten Shah
Re: India :Pak and peace
by Miten Shah on Feb 12, 2010 09:43 AM


Well Rediff blocks ip address from Pakistan for this very reason, that white colored jihadi agents like you dont spam with messages and spoil the tone of discussion.

Well here is the deal, let me expose you as a jihadi sympataiser outside of Pakistan by not marking your message as abusive and let the FBI do the rest of tracking your ip address.

Rest assured.


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Aniruddh Sharma
Re: India :Pak and peace
by Aniruddh Sharma on Feb 12, 2010 04:55 PM
I know why you wrote how he got his doctorate. Bcoz he didn't study in a madarsa.Coz that's what u think is the ultimate knowledge.Jihadism is worse than apartheid.We are seeking peace but will not be frightened by cowardly attacks from religious fanatics.India's reconstruction work in Afghanistan is not a failure otherwise, Pak would not have been worried abt it.Honestly, India can ignore Pak as it has better things to do. Kashmir is an integral part of India and that will be non-negotiable. Come what may. Foreign policy under the current govt is a disaster. needs to be more tough with Pak.

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