I think the govt must send every force that is at disposal and hunt these naxal animals without mercy. Get all the top leaders and shoot them like dogs. The naxalism will be solved overnight. Send our army and airforce if needed.
Country;s policemen are used for two purposes. Either they are providing security to scoundrels or going into forests and making themselves target to naxal basatds.
Its time we called in the army and crush these anti-national mafia called maoists. Like they did in Russia. be merciless.
Re: Govt should take action
by Sid on Apr 30, 2010 07:09 AM
And, Russia is doing great, right? Force is necessary to maintain law & order I agree but can certain root issues be investigated as well.
It is easy for us to sit in our cities and make judgements on the lives of the poor. Do you know how corporate mining companies are systematically exploiting tribals in Orissa, for e.g. Orissa in recent years has one of the largest FDIs in the country but one of the poorest states with low literacy, high disease burden and extreme poverty - perfect breeding ground for folks against establishment.
Please, do comment after visiting some of these areas. I did and personally my family suffered a lot under naxalism but I believe they enjoy support in mostly backward areas. We need to think of winning hearts and minds of these rural folks and first capture all those corrupt politicians/bureaucrats eating into funds allocated for development schemes in these areas. There, my brother is the real victory.
To use force and kill will only temporarily disable the Maoist movement - India is not short of exploited people willing to take up arms if social justice and equity cannot be delivered by the government. But, then the apathy of the pseudo-intellectuals sitting in their AC rooms is despicable.
KK is a failed Andhra Politico, whose own son is embroiled in a murder case, where-in hez supposed to have done in a real estate agent. His entire rhetoric seems to be directed against the Chattisgarh BJP administration. Im surprised that he claims to be one of the intercolutors of the failed AP Govt-Naxal talks one upon a time. Hez an entirely wrong politician whose interview rediff has landed up with. Such interviews would do more harm then good to Rediff, which, personally im a fan off.
has spoken about the omissions of the Chattisgarh govt. However, he has not said a word about that government's failed initiative of 'Salwa Judum' - that openly collusive approach of the state with the arrogant and ravenous landlords of the countryside !
Perhaps he hopes that his own government's 'Operation green hunt' - another failed initiative - will then be less talked about !!
Re: Keshava Rao
by spider on Apr 28, 2010 06:28 PM
Nothing like that. What all this guy wants is his 15 minutes of press time. He wanted to become some Mahatma Gandhi or some Baba Amte by side tracking the criminal nature of naxalism and to focus on trivial things and bamboozle others.
It was only when these Naxal Leaders went into the jungles to hide from the law, did they encounter the tribals and their so called penury. Otherwise, what was the 1st reason they entered the jungles? Did they 1st hear about the problems of tribals and then pick up arms and then enter the jungles? On the contrary, until then these so called naxal leaders were using jungle guest houses to use and throw the tribal women. Which they r doing till now, openly. Without any check.
Your well intended criticism is noted and appreciated. I have done a lot of research on the Maosists and their leadership. 2 things have come out very glaringly. 01. 90% are Telugus 02. Clear and exhaustive research on their family names revealed that, almost all are Kammas and Reddys. They r trying their level best to hide that fact by adopting pseudo names, like 'kishenji' etc. For ex.Kishenji is Reddy.
Re: Naxals and Telugus
by Sid on Apr 30, 2010 07:16 AM
So what! Where is the question of caste. Some of these Kammas/Reddys were highly educated and idealistic back in 1960s/70s but were disillusioned by the corrupt governance. Of course, they chose the wrong path of violence but they at least chose to fight and lead.
If you do additional research, you will see even doctors/lawyers/engineers amongst these top naxal leadership. I think they can be creatively engaged on the condition that there is no violence and anti-national activities - time for participatory democracy.
Take away this guy's security and ask him to live like a normal human being and do his 'socio -economic' thing.
Its easy to give Bhashan and idiotic Gyaan sitting amidst gun weilding police commandos. These policement put their lives for his own. Hope this guy realizes and shows some respect to the police of this country.
Re: POlice security
by piri on Apr 28, 2010 06:15 PM
And what about a little respect at least for the lives of the tribals, the poor, the marginalised, the land disposessed (among others by the landlords deriving their arrogance from initiatives such as 'Green Hunt' and 'Salwa Judum'), etc. for a change ??
Re: Re: POlice security
by spider on Apr 28, 2010 06:20 PM
Ofcourse they need to be given their share. No doubt about it. No one should be allowed to exploit any other person.
Re: Re: POlice security
by surya rao on Apr 28, 2010 06:22 PM
It was only when these Naxal Leaders went into the jungles to hide from the law, did they encounter the tribals and their so called penury. Otherwise, what was the 1st reason they entered the jungles? Did they 1st hear about the problems of tribals and then pick up arms and then enter the jungles? On the contrary, until then these so called naxal leaders were using jungle guest houses to use and throw the tribal women. Which they r doing till now, openly. Without any check.
Re: Re: Re: POlice security
by spider on Apr 28, 2010 06:26 PM
Exactly. Till then , naxalism was only confined to college campuses where commies were operating in proxy. Like Warangal.
It infact was a farmers movement in westbengal. Nothing to do with tribals. Also it was never about killing people. They used to protest and take out morchas.
But what today's so called naxals doing is killing people for money.
It is like underworld mafia of real estate or smugglers who kill people who come in their way. There are no principles.
Re: Re: Re: Re: POlice security
by Sid on Apr 30, 2010 07:21 AM
Untrue. Naxalism emerged in college campuses like REC Warangal (now NIT) because a lot of the students who hailed from remote villages got disillusioned by the then existing political structure and got influenced by revolutionary language. Most of us are idealistic and hot -headed in 20s. These guys obviously chose the wrong path but their intentions at least initially were good.
Being a Congress MP, in a very subtle way, he has made this an issue of Congress vs BJP. Besides, there are many contradictions in his statements.
The MP does not seem to be even a bit hurt by the death of innocent Policemen, who were just doing their duty as per the instructions they were given.
No arguments can justify violence. The logic cited by the MP is all totally wrong. If tomorrow someone justifies killing another person due to delay in justice or simply lack of justice, can that be accepted? A thief or a murderer could just justify his position saying that he is poor and needs to make a living. Will that be accepted? A criminal conduct cannot be justified. Period!!!
Now, when a part of the body has a problem, it does not matter why the problem started. The problem area just has to be treated - if required the problem part may also have to be surgically treated and the sick part surgically removed. Necessary action should then be taken to prevent such problems from arising once again. In the present case too, it is important that naxalism should be put down with a heavy hand (remove the sick part surgically if required) and parallelly development activity should be started in the tribal areas.
But, first, the political support to Naxalism (if any) should be cut off.
Will some one tell this dumb assz that over 3000 police men were killed in cold blood by these maoist bastads in the last three years. They were systematically desimated like some animals. Their politburo manifesto clearly states that they want to overthrow the state of India and establish a totalitarian system. And this was stated in Parliment by the country's home minister.
Now, this mindless aszhole has brains to understand what 'over throwing govt' means ?
If this guy wants to gain 'sympathy' of naxals so that his family will be spared , let him go to Bengal or China. Why bother us with his idiotic harangue ?
We must kick out , opportunistic social reformers before the filth of the nation is addressed.
Naxalism is a phenomenon followed by people who do not want to work hard and come up. Naxals r those who take the examples of injustice to tribals, but, no tribals amongst them. Naxalism is practised by a group who want the state to feed them while they indulge in orgies inside the jungles. I myself am an engineer, who was forced to live in a tenantment with my mother and elder sister, without a toilet. We had to go to the fields in front of everybody's eyes for the same. And that too in another state. All the top level national naxal leaders r uppercaste sick minded telugus who have fallen on bad times, but, do not want to work their way to good times. And, in the bargain, due to their comparitively higher level of education, they r misguiding innocent tribals and villagers who r going about their lives day by day as a challenge. The biggest ingomninity of Indian society is that, when a so called learned man talks, uneducated people sit and listen. And unfortunately for Indian society sometimes also blindly follow.
Re: Re: Naxalism and Indian Society
by surya rao on Apr 28, 2010 06:12 PM
Your well intended criticism is noted and appreciated. I have done a lot of research on the Maosists and their leadership. 2 things have come out very glaringly. 01. 90% are Telugus 02. Clear and exhaustive research on their family names revealed that, almost all are Kammas and Reddys. They r trying their level best to hide that fact by adopting pseudo names, like 'kishenji' etc. For ex.Kishenji is Reddy.
Re: Re: Re: Naxalism and Indian Society
by piri on Apr 28, 2010 06:18 PM
That means the Reddys and Kammas have spread out in strength from A.P and are now wielding their clout in W.B, Bihar, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand, Orissa, M.P, Karnataka and even in T.N !!
Vow ! That ought to count as an achievement of sorts !
Re: Re: Re: Re: Naxalism and Indian Society
by surya rao on Apr 28, 2010 06:23 PM
Yes u moron. Dont look at the peel before u try a mango. Feel the mango overall to know more about it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Naxalism and Indian Society
by piri on Apr 28, 2010 09:06 PM
Another half-wit who is sure (in his ignorance) that what one half-wit has set out is the gospel truth !
The word 'research' can assume so many different meanings, really !!
