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Fried Yakov
Maoism
by Fried Yakov on Sep 27, 2009 12:41 PM  | Hide replies

Can only be dealth with firmly if development os brought to the deprived and the armed cadres are dealth ruthlessly with by the military.

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piri
Re: Maoism
by piri on Sep 27, 2009 01:00 PM
If true development in the form of real and complete land reforms, substantial increases in allocations for public education, health and employment generation through social investments, elimination of all manner of exploition of the poor such as bonded labour, child labour, violation of minimum wages rule, etc. are brought in, then there would not be any need at all to spend money and time for dealing 'ruthlessly' with radicals such as Maoists since their very reason for existence would have been taken away.

However, ushering in such true reforms is an almost impossible proposition for most political parties, especially the Congress and the BJP, since many of their stalwarts and supporters own giant land holdings themselvesis and owe their wealth and position to the very existence of exploitative conditions in society.

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piri
Kerala is the only state of significant size and population that
by piri on Sep 26, 2009 08:18 PM  | Hide replies

is free of the Naxalite menace !!

T.N, A.P, Karnataka, M.P, Chattisgarh, Orissa, U.P, Bihar.....all have faced Naxalite/Maoist insurgency for decades; yet a long term solution today looks so distant that it is regarded as improbable even by their governments. Each of these state governments (aided by the centre) have devised and implemented numerous 'elimination' strategies over the years. For this purpose, they spend more and more (and those in power steal more and more in the bargain) on arms, forces, training, logistics, etc. Yet not one of these strategies has made a significant dent on Naxalism in India. To illustrate, there was once this overhyped police officer named 'Walter Devaram' in T.N whose 'exploits' against Naxalites were labouriously tom-tomed by the Jayalalitha administration. When Naxalite activity was ‘noticed’ (till it is seen as threatening to vested interests, naxalism is usually ignored) in Salem, the Jayalalitha administration send contingent after contingent of ‘special’ forces to curb it. When all attempts failed, she called for her most efficient officer – Walter Devaram – who had a ‘brainstorming’ sessions with the cabinet, with his collegues, with the state IB and finally ended up spending as much on anti naxalite operations as was spent in the preceding 15 years. Within 4 years of his self proclaimed ‘success’, Naxalism had spread to 4 more districts in T.N and is now seen as a source of succour by the trampled sections of society in Salem,

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Rakesh Mehta
Re: Kerala is the only state of significant size and population t
by Rakesh Mehta on Sep 29, 2009 06:21 PM
Gujarat.

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piri
Re: Kerala is the only state of significant size and population t
by piri on Sep 26, 2009 08:20 PM
Erode, Dharmapuri and Nilgiris districts.

Every succeeding government at the centre speaks in the same monotone of impotent defiance when it comes to a cure for Naxalism. In recent times, home minister Chidambaram has spoken of increased allocations for curbing naxalism, forgetting that several administrations before him had increased allocations manifold with little result. The Chattisgarh govt. appears to believe that it has fooled everyone into thinking that it has ‘rooted’ out naxalism with it’s ‘Salwa Judum’ - launched and attempted to be sustained with tons of fanfare (all at considerable state expenditure) – when it has actually succeeded only in protecting those landlords of the countryside who are in it’s favour.

In Kerala, Naxalism appeared once in the late sixties and early seventies. When the movement was at it’s peak, naxalites attacked and killed a few landlords. The then Kerala govt. (CPI led) responded by comprehensively completing the land reforms started by Mr. EMS a decade earlier. Other social reform measures such as greatly enhanced budget allocations for public health and education and the PDS followed. Later governments added other investments in the social sector. All of these state initiatives were reviewed, vetted and their implementation scrutinised by one of the most vigilant and corruption intolerant societies in India. As a result, social maladies such as exploitation of labour, child labour, giant gaps between the few rich and the many

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piri
Re: Re: Kerala is the only state of significant size and populati
by piri on Sep 26, 2009 08:21 PM
poor, lack of decent public educational or sufficient public health facilities, demeaning employment such as manual scavenging, etc. are entirely absent in Kerala while they are so rampant in most other states as to elicit frequent questions in their legislatures (albeit only as a political weapon).

While other states make repeated fools of themselves in responding to every naxalite burst of violence with an increase in arms and men for their forces, Kerala today enjoys total freedom from this menace.


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Siva sundaram
Re: Re: Re: Kerala is the only state of significant size and popu
by Siva sundaram on Sep 28, 2009 08:32 AM

I have to admit kerala is a rolemodel.

I am a tamlian having lived in kerala for a couple of years, I have seen various facets of public life which are entirely different from what we have in other states.

I somtimes wonder if its because of the communista that kerala seems so eminently liveable or the people themselves.

I think my vote will be for communists, despite the negative propoganda of the media which seems to follow the dictates of the few rich who want to exploit the resources of kerala.


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bala sreenivasan
Re: Re: Re: Re: Kerala is the only state of significant size and
by bala sreenivasan on Sep 28, 2009 10:41 AM
Dear Mr.Sivasundaram & Piri,
You can keep on romanticising Naxal movement as long as none of your kith and kin are labelled as
class enemies and systematically eliminated by the Naxal groups.
Well, I do concede the issues raised by the Naxals are relevant, but their means are horrific and cannot be justified. Some pernicious weeds need to be eliminated, but the main crop can not be damaged. They are like people who throw the baby away along with bathwater! I have lived in the erstwhile USSR and I know very well what the dictatorship of the proletariat means. Naxals will have to give up violence and develop a reverence for traditional ethos of the land. Without which they can never bring about a change that they are so eager to.


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piri
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kerala is the only state of significant size
by piri on Sep 28, 2009 11:47 AM
Read posts carefully before responding. There was no praise for naxals or their ways in my post; only on the reasons why they come into existence and how they are sustained.

And there was no praise for communism as such as to justify every communist regime past and present. Today's Kerala is no USSR. The reference is to the giant lead Kerala enjoys over other Indian states in social development (and social development is a precondition for any kind of development to be sustained long into the future).

And about the USSR itself, in 1989 (when the union was dismantled) even the poorest Russians were free from the levels of poverty afflicting more than 50 percent of today's Indians who have experienced 2 decades of 'structural reform', 'liberalisation', 'globalisation', etc. !!!

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Neeta S
Ghandy
by Neeta S on Sep 26, 2009 03:26 PM  | Hide replies

Anyone who is not beliving on DEMOCRACY & taking shelter of voilance should be hanged publically.If MOIST were in rule what will be their action? Never forget TIAMEN SQUARE.inccident.

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sanjay kulkarni
Re: Ghandy
by sanjay kulkarni on Sep 26, 2009 08:08 PM
Democracy has becomw a last resort for scoundrels and rascals!!
If anyone fights for what people want, itself is justified democraic action.
Kobad Ghandy ( pronounced Gandhi?) is truly courageous man against establishment.
Also public hanging may be viewed as violence by weakling Gandhians!!
Hence such courageous men will emerge as long as the deaf and blind government does not take heed of revolutionary alarm bells.


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ashok leyland
Maoism
by ashok leyland on Sep 26, 2009 03:24 PM  | Hide replies

How pathetic that we Indians have to resort to identifying ourselves with foreign ideologies in order to do something for our deprived and to oppose government's wrong policies.
Why can't we simply work together to stop the unfair treatment and work to supporting the diverse cultures and traditions of our country that make India the richly cultured country it is. Otherwise we are soon going to be a monotonous filmy country with fake western culture that will create problems for our identity in the coming generations.

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Siva sundaram
Re: Maoism
by Siva sundaram on Sep 28, 2009 08:39 AM

FOREIGN IDEOLOGIES?????? ONLY THE NAME IS FOREIGN, THE IDEAS ARE INDEGENOUS.

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sunil
obama
by sunil on Sep 25, 2009 10:24 PM  | Hide replies

ladin also came from a good family... both are pervts

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secret
Re: obama
by secret on Sep 27, 2009 12:49 AM
You mean Osama.

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