Re: epic of krishna.
by Vikrant Bharat on Aug 31, 2009 06:34 PM
Limited knowledge blocks mind and inhibits reason. If some one 50 years ago was told about emails and mobiles, he would have raised the same question which you have raised. Deep scrutiny by whom? By those who after 100 years of efforts do not know the cause or cure of cancer? or those who after 2000 years of efforts do not know why death happen or what happens after death? OR those who believe that Jesus was born of a virgin but every other religion must be verified on the available scientific knowledge.
It is high time scientists realise that science is incomplete philosophy but philosophy is a complete science.
Re: Re: epic of krishna.
by JGN on Aug 31, 2009 06:42 PM
Vikrant Bharat, the problem with Indian Musliims and Christiians is that they want others to belive that even the Indian sub-continent did not exist before the arrival of 1slamic invaders or the Europan colonizers. For them history and geography starts only from the date of Moghul invasion or Portugese expeditions!
Re: Re: Re: epic of krishna.
by meprithiviraj on Aug 31, 2009 07:05 PM
mr JGN please come out of the strangle hold of evangical organisation. mr manish has said it in very beutiful words Living in India convinced me that there are definitely many paths to God. Anybody who lives in India and does not subscribe to that concept should be termed intolerant, but instead the opposite is happening. There are some people today who call their God as God and mine as the devil, this is unacceptable, and I will see to it that those intolerant concepts are demolished. I long to see a one borderless world where we live in mutual respect. I cannot say much on the project but to say that I will prove that the underlying basis of religions is the same. can any of the foriegn religion say this. destiny beckons us to revive her spiritual culture and share it for the benefit of all mankind. This demands that the intellectual elite of the country desist from denigrating the soul of India in hasty and superficial pseudo-secular attempts to be ‘modern’ and ‘humanitarian’. The main task before us today is that we should liberate ourselves from the suicidal stranglehold of the soul-destroying nation-perception of pseudo secularcongress, communist, and the teachings of evangical organisations. and awaken a new spirit of national consciousness in ourselves. We have to develop a clear national vision.
Re: Re: Re: epic of krishna.
by tajender on Aug 31, 2009 08:06 PM
what abt aryan invaders for golden was when they crushed indians forever. vedic wolves are hiding among indian sheeps&swallowing them gradually.that is how 72lac crores are shifted to swiss banks.
Re: Re: Re: Re: epic of krishna.
by tajender on Aug 31, 2009 08:09 PM
The main task before us today is that we should liberate ourselves from the suicidal stranglehold of the soul-destroying nation-perception of pseudo secularcongress, communist, and the teachings of evangical organisations. and awaken a new spirit of national consciousness in ourselves. We have to develop a clear national vision.
NATIONAL CONSCIOUSNESS means hind00 zoinism&fascism. u shld call for indian upliftment. u r maniac.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: epic of krishna.
by JGN on Aug 31, 2009 08:46 PM
tajender, say openly; the main task is to killl all kafiirs and establish a kaliphate. Why are you afraid to tell the truth?
Re: epic of krishna.
by JGN on Aug 31, 2009 06:28 PM
That is applicable for the belief of all reliigions. All reliigions are based on a bundle of lies. No reliigion is better than the other. No reliigion has ever stopped people from committing crimes.
As a scientist, I believe that they travelled on horses which would enable them to reach pretty quickly. If you consider 1,000 km, that should take him 7 days if he had a string of horses. Of course if you take faith into account, then it could happen in a twinkling of an eye
BUT HORSES were not availble on indian soil those days.there is no trace of this animal in indus valley civilization. excavate kurukshetra to establish truth.till them whole story will be epic only.
Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proof.
by Vikrant Bharat on Aug 31, 2009 06:44 PM
India was too big to be assessed on the basis of few excavations. If some one goes to Afghanistan today and does not find modern scientific gadgets, it does not mean they don't exist in the entire world. It is senseless to believe that whatever was not discovered in excavations of few kilometers area of so-called Indus valley civilisations, that did not exist before or during that period. If I come to your home and don't find any book in Sanskrit, it doesn't mean no book was written in Sanskrit till date. Sometimes we believe PREJUDICED westerners and forget to use common sense to puncture their hollow arguments.
Re: Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proo
by tajender on Aug 31, 2009 08:25 PM
mr vikrant use common sense dont go after lies.rama&krishna might have happend but not on indian soil.as there is no enough proof to support the claim.
Re: Re: Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give
by JGN on Aug 31, 2009 09:04 PM
Rama and Krishna were living in the Arabian deserts!!!
Re: Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proo
by tajender on Aug 31, 2009 08:19 PM
in idus valley civilization there was no sanskrit no horse or cow.these three are main exponents of aryan civilization. mahabharat took place in kurukshtra like dinasours bones and weaponary shld be find. afganistan was under control of budhhdist till they knew about islam and converted in mass.
Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proof.
by Pankaj Gadkari on Aug 31, 2009 10:37 PM
If there were no horses then,the word 'Haya' would not have been found in Sanskrit.Krishna was the most skillful in handling 'Rath' so he is refered to as'Parthsarathi,ie.........I need not explain. Besides,who gave you this information?
Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proof.
by JGN on Aug 31, 2009 05:59 PM
ZYes; but scientists should believe that a mentally deranged arab broke the moon into two or the earth is flat or the mountains are pegs to prevent earth from blown off in the wind!
Re: Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proo
by sanjeev saxena on Sep 01, 2009 01:44 AM
JGN, please go for DNA test. After test you will believe in Ram and Krishna because that will prove you was h1ndu and forcefully with effort like Raipe convert you in mozleum
Re: Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proo
by golwalkar on Aug 31, 2009 06:11 PM
this is not awnser of my enquiry.this can only be from mad man fit for nearby lunatic centre.
Re: Re: Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give
by JGN on Aug 31, 2009 06:13 PM
roundwalker, we are not bound to answer every idi0tic message. Go back to your mental asylum in Agra! Btw you have no right to talk about Buddhists after you blated the Bhamiyan Buddha and killled lakhs of Buddhists in Swat, Afghanistan, etc.
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by tajender on Aug 31, 2009 06:20 PM
i want awnser from those who has written this article.not from u.
Re: SCIENTIST DONT BASE their conclusions on belief.give proof.
by K K on Aug 31, 2009 09:57 PM
golwalkar:
You are wrong to say that horses were not available on Indian soil. Can you prove your theory? Horses were in India in those times and it has been extensively recorded in many Sanskrit literatures. What more proof do you want? Maybe you don't know how to read properly? If they never find the body of Jesus, does that mean Jesus was a lie?
And please don't identify yourself as a "scientist". Reading your post makes me think you are a moron. So please don't embarrass the scientific community.
If we read gita or upnishads it is quite clear that brahman is something which is all prevailing truth behind everything and project itself in form of everything percieved by our senses. In gita krishna confirmed that he is that brahman So the question of his being present during certain times does not arises. He is not a person but a mighty river flowing behind as well as ahead of us. he was, is and will be the only truth or reality
to some extent author has done a good job, one thing that we hindustanis has to think and learn is that, know our selves perfectly first. what we were, what we are, & what we will be capable off. we were the giants in all portfolios of the world and were the first to show new paths for all the developments, even today we are capable of it & for the future also(for eg; submarine we built, the radio, the mettalurgy we gave to the world etc). it is better late than never, we stop talking about all western things appreciating their culture, keeping ruling authority a western oriented(congress etc), giving our mother in to the hands of blood suckers and demons,pls evrey body come forward to save our mother and free her body parts which are getting decayed by viruses(kashmir, assam, all seven sisters, kerala etc).
there a lot of research who have written about the exhistence of Krshna and the Mahabharat war inthe Astrological Magazin.Also a lot of research is done on Shri Rama.
did jesus studied in india at taxila for 13 years.these are those 13 lost years for which there is no record in west.
did he survived crucifiacation and escaped.
did he escaped to india.
did he lived here peacefully ,roaming from cashmir , punjab to banaras.
does his mothers tomb is in murre town of punjab.town named after name of mary.
does he died in india at ripe age of82 and his tomb is in sirinagar.
does his teaching and rituals resemble ditto to bhudism prevelent at that time.
kresten in his book "jesus died in india" proves these points with facts and proofs leaving no doubts. plus greeks since time of alexender used to and fro on silk route.so jesus had no problem traveling to india two times.
Re: jesus the son of krishna (GOD) came to india.
by Vivek Chaudhary on Sep 01, 2009 05:06 AM
Dear Inder,
You're asking very pointed questions, good ones. Let me try to explain few things. First of all let us not claim that Jesus was in India theory. It has lot of holes.
1) Jesus studied in Taxila. In fact, Jesus never went to any organized schooling and it is a very much a fact from within and outside Biblical literatures. That was one of the marvel point for all his audiences that without schooling, how come this guy is so brilliant.
2) His death was corroborated by several proofs by Romans as well as non-Romans. In fact, his mysterious appearances inside a closed rooms was one of the most astonishing events.
3) His mother came to India, leaving her 4/5 kids, you must be joking. In fact, couple of his brothers were very much involved in preaching Jesus' teachings and became martyr.
4) His teachings are similar to Budhists can be discussed but one of the biggest theological difference is idol worshiping which Jesus preached against.
I understand that we Indians try to take credit for everything good around the world but despite all our gifts to the world, we should be very careful in our claims. Because if we do it too often without established facts then we loose credibility.
Re: Re: CARBON DATING
by Ravi Chandran on Aug 31, 2009 05:36 PM
Gems are buried under doorsteps, whenever new buildings are built. Diamond is an amorphous form of Carbon.
kodos....bravo to Mr.Pandit......he is doing amazing work.....may this documentary make the world SECULAR and not Pseudo-secular( as all are today)....... Nice work...All the best
