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Mr  Pundit
simple vedic guide, and killing of dravidian religion
by Mr Pundit on Feb 23, 2008 04:44 PM  | Hide replies

1) Follow all colorful gods
2) Imaginations are reality
3) Sentiments and infatuation is truth of life
4) Believe in Mythological Vimanas & Ammunition Agni Baan , (though we need collob with Suzuki & Bofors),

even vedas devised many techy things million years ago.But hindus still use bullock carts.
5) No questions required for sentiments.
6) Sacrfice Animals to make god and goddess happy.
7) All gods can marry many times , their private life becomes sacred for believers
8) Casteism is must, Only who born from brahma's head are superior, rest must serve them.
9) Any number of gods can be created, reincarnated and manifested even with wood, rope etc.
10) Women , Shudras are biggest threat to Hinduism
11) Shudras not allowed in temple.
12) Must make all the gods drink milk
13) Offering pedas, laddus will bring good luck, can get lottery or gain laxmi in job / business.
14) Never make any god angry.
15) Agree to brahmins, even if they lie it is god's word must be agreed to.
16) believe in Ram flyover 17M years ago
17) believe in Ram flyover 5114 bce ago.
18) believe that Sanskrit and hinduism is 17 M years old.
19) Indus valley history belonged to Aryans, though they never existed before 3K years here.
20) Any good people on earth is either avatar of Vishnu or Brahma.
21) Claim anything good as part of hinduism (using Vedic paint brush)
22) All the religions in the world are offshoot of hinduism though it was named by foreigners 200 years ago.


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Martin U
Re: simple vedic guide, and killing of dravidian religion
by Martin U on Oct 15, 2008 09:13 PM
You are a sadist.. why are you even breathing ?? You do not have any right to live

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johnson devaraj
Don't fear Indian Navy
by johnson devaraj on Feb 12, 2008 04:05 AM

Respected fellow citizens

This project is aimed for strategic development in Tamil Nadu. I don't why and for what our Indian Navy is fearing about?

They should be ready to protect our people any time and any where!, ...That is why they are recruited and paid.

They should not advise what to do and what not to do.....to the central and state government.

Shame on you indian navy.!

Don't find reasons to escape from your duty.

How many times do the indian navy patrol in the palk strait region?, How many indian fishermen they have protected from the bullets of srilankan navy and the ltte.

Don't act like cowards, Please give statements by which we indian people feel proud about our indian navy.

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QandA
Way to go Pseudos...Good luck India...
by QandA on Jan 26, 2008 11:58 PM

Here is a thought.. An old structure called as Babri Masjid was broken by a bunch of right wind Hindus.. Then a FOREIGN MUSLIM THUGH with the help of RIGHT WING INDIAN MUSLIMS exploded bombs in India and Killed several hundred majority Hindus... That's how they VALUE THEIR MILITANT ISLAM. WHICH DOES NOT EVEN ACCEPT AN ATTACK ON A BROKEN OLD MOSQUE WHERE NO NAMAZ WAS BEING OFFERED..

And here a bunch of Pseudo with their half Gandhi brains are LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL VIABILITY OF A SETHU WHICH PEOPLE believe as much as film stars...

LOL LOL LOL

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Vishwamithran TKB
this project is good for modern Dhrutarashtra - karunanidhi & co
by Vishwamithran TKB on Jan 22, 2008 09:39 PM  | Hide replies

This project is good for only the modern Dhrutarashtra, Mr M Karunanidhi and her kitten. This will catapult natural calamities nothing else inter alia other destruction to the nature and lives.

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Nanchil
RE:this project is good for modern Dhrutarashtra - karunanidhi & co
by Nanchil on Jan 23, 2008 10:34 AM
This project is also good for modern rakshasas: hindutva forces. They have got a chance to utilize this project to spread hatred and frenzy among hindus only to get some votes.

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Rehana Khan
Ram is our ancestor also.
by Rehana Khan on Jan 22, 2008 06:21 PM  | Hide replies

Though I am a muslim, Ram is our ancestor & we are proud of his character. Indian govt. should protect the Ramsethu & hence safeguard the feelings of not only Hindus but also non-Hindus like me. Let me make it clear that the muslims like me have the history of only last 1500 years. Since Ram is an ancient figure with great character, this is an issue of national heritage & not only the heritage of Hindus. BJP has no business to hijack this issue. Ram belongs to all & not only to the BJP/RSS.

Some of my muslim brothers have questioned my identity as a muslim. I feel pity for them. I can say with evidance that my ancestors were not norn in West Asia & they were the local people here. Why should I believe in the Adam theory? I believe in Islam & I always try to link it with spirituality & peace. Let us use RamSethu as a bridge between our present & our past. I strongly urge the people not ot make Ram marginalised to a specific religion. Let us treat him as a national figure.


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Fried Yakov
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Fried Yakov on Jan 23, 2008 01:28 AM
Dear Madam,

Your words bring joy to my heart as I have rarely seen a Muslim who respects others faith. May your tribe increase and end the senseless mayhem in this world. I wish you Godspeed.

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JGN
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 06:32 PM
Dear Rehana, there is no proof that Ram existed. The story of his birth cannot be true (like that of Jesus Christ). Even if he existed, he was a Noble King. The author gave him a larger than life image and made almost a model person.

However as a mark of tolerance, let the hindus believe in him (just like the followers believing in their respective gods or prophets)rather than abusing their faith.

Apart from faith, the Project is technically and economically viable. The same will benefit only the dredging companies and those who can get kick-back!!!!

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Demo-crazy
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 07:43 PM
JGN, just to mention couple of points.
1. Rama was called Maryada Purushottam - the best among human beings, as known to those at that time, based on his principles of fairness, bravery, etc.
2. Krishna also existed. The excavations in Bet Dwaraka show the submerged Dwaraka City.

In Hinduism, we have the pratice of defining a role model - anyone who has achieved something that is beyond the capability of a large mass of people, is deified (or demonized based on whether it is good or evil act).

If we can call Shirdi Sai Baba or Puttaparti Sai Baba, as an incarnation of God and worship him, why not Rama or Krishna.

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JGN
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 08:22 PM
Dear Demo-crazy, I have not told that they should not be worshipped. Let the believers worhsip him. I have no quarrel. Though I do not believe in any god, I do have respect for the sentiments of the believers. Btw I do not consider Shirdi Sai Baba or Puttaparti Sai Baba as incarnations of God. According to world renowned Rationalist, Puttaparti Sai Baba was a juggler. ( Btw I have some respect for him only out of numerous godman/godwoman in our country for the Water Supply Project and Hospitals he had constructed)

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sivasubramanian
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by sivasubramanian on Jan 22, 2008 08:42 PM
Dear JGN,
Man are made with only a tiny brain,
that also don't work for some person like you/Karunaithi.
You belive you are fathered by your DAD,
even without proof,
If so why our forefathers whose might and inteligence can never attained by you and me
Built so big tEmple in Tamil Nadu,thousands of year before.
Why all your fore father worked so hard to establish the Gopuram(TOwer)
Which all world astonish as Engineering miracle.
You with small eduaction and littile brain thinks
those genius are fools,then it is up to you,
we can't help you.

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Demo-crazy
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 10:23 PM
JGN, we have no objections to anybody being atheist. Charvaka, a sage, was an atheist. Still he is respected and his views are revered. That is the real strength of Hinduism.

There are many who saints who are serious on the social upliftment. Many have initiated projects in healthcare, education, running orphanages, etc. These kind of services are also service to God.

So, when a person rises above the average scale, does something extraordinary, he or she is considered God. I have no problem with that thought process.

There are many things that science has not been able to explain. So, there is something beyond the visible, beyond normal mechanisms of generally known laws of science.

An open mind will always try to search for the truth. That is a journey we all should undertake or at least be aware of.

However, let me tell you that I liked your comments.

For all those researchers on the net. A bit of advice - there is much more beyond search engines. We should make an effort to read some quality books.

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JGN
RE:RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 06:33 PM
Pl read as............the Project is technically and economically NOT viable.......

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rediff reader
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by rediff reader on Jan 23, 2008 03:18 AM
Dear JGN,
Maybe you do not believe that Jesus is divine.

However there is more than enough proof that He existed. You might not accept the biblical proof. So check out other historical facts.

There is more than enough evidence outside the bible(Roman historians, Jewish historians like Josephus who lived in the first cenury, Talmud)

Overwhelming Evidence that

1. He existed

2. He was crucified by Romans

3. His followers believed that He rose again. They were willing to stick to this belief even when threatened with death.

If God is who he claims to be, supernatural things like resurrection / virgin birth or creation should not be impossible for Him. I will be suspicious If God cannot resurrect a dead person / do supernatural things.

Should He not demo His power over everything ..even death for me to trust HIm?

For someone to claim to be God - He shd have full power over life and death.



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Contractor
Sethusamudram Project!!
by Contractor on Jan 22, 2008 05:55 PM

Sethusamudram Project involves dredging a ship channel between India and Sri Lanka across Palk Straits. This involves dredging through Adams Bridge %u2013 a coral group of islands between India and Sri Lanka). This is supposedly going to reduce the maritime distance and also allow local sea ports to proliferate.

I dont have a stand on this project. I dont know much about it. I dont know if the economic benefits from this project are going to exceed the marine and ecological losses that we are going to incur. Even if they do, I am not sure if we should go ahead and proceed with this. However, the discussion is no longer the fight between liberals & left (who usually oppose projects that harm nature and environs) and the authority, but between the right wing enthusiasts and the supposed Secular-government.

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Himanshu Upadhyaya
who knows it was made by Ram
by Himanshu Upadhyaya on Jan 22, 2008 05:45 PM  | Hide replies

its always been a problem with india. whenever something good is decided to be done, it is turned down. even the literate ppl in this country cant think wisely. this project is obviously contribute in the economy of india but it seems to be so difficult for the ppl of our country to understand. no1 doesn't even know that is this 'ram sethu' a man made structure or a geological one. even it was made by ram, we should have no problems as it is serving no purpose.

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sitaram sakthi
RE:who knows it was made by Ram
by sitaram sakthi on Jan 22, 2008 05:55 PM
how can u prove that it was not made by ram

newindpress.com/sunday/sundayitems.asp?id=SEC20030705031327&eTitle=Co/

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Himanshu Upadhyaya
RE:who knows it was made by Ram
by Himanshu Upadhyaya on Jan 22, 2008 06:13 PM
it has already been proven that it is more then a million years ago by carbon dating and also by many other dating technologies. all in all, it is not just 5000 years old at the least. hense its proven that it is not man made. i even does not support the existance of ram.

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RE:who knows it was made by Ram
by on Jan 22, 2008 06:56 PM
Ram sena is not supposed to have created the rocks. They just brought the rocks and put it in a formation to make bridge like structure to cross over.
Carbon dating can only say about date of the formation of the rocks.
But it can not say any thing about shifting of rocks.
If someone gets a 200000 year old rock and put it in his house wall, his house does not become that old.


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sitaram sakthi
RE:who knows it was made by Ram
by sitaram sakthi on Jan 22, 2008 06:21 PM
By the way as vivekanada said hinduism is not based on any central authority, ram, krishna and many others are just those who uphold the vedas( which is actually the basis of hinduism..)..
if you disprove the existence of jesus --christianity fades...
if one disproves the existence of mohammed-islam fails...
if one disproves the existence of zoraster or any other religious prophets.. that religion fails...

but that is not the case with hinduism...
even if u believe in ram or not
hinduism is based on vedas which is considered to be Apaurusheyatva which means it is of divine origin...



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sitaram sakthi
RE:RE:who knows it was made by Ram
by sitaram sakthi on Jan 22, 2008 06:22 PM
and by the way what is the neutrality of the carbon dating done...

every one knows how rama sethu was named adams bridge...



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Contractor
Why rightwing opposes this project?
by Contractor on Jan 22, 2008 05:43 PM  | Hide replies

The religious Hindus are opposed to Sethu Project. Not because they think it affects the marine biology or because it is expensive but because they think that this Adams Bridge is nothing but a construction by Lord Rama (of Ramayana) used by Rama to invade Lanka According to mythology (as foretold in Ramayana), Rama constructed a bridge with the help of army of monkeys to invade Lanka. So, these experts suggest that this Adams bridge between India and Sri Lanka is indeed the same bridge that Rama constructed. Some of them, in an attempt to gleefully satisfy this theory have even suggested that Rama and his cohorts existed more than 1.7 million years ago to coincide with the time this formation happened.


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sitaram sakthi
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by sitaram sakthi on Jan 22, 2008 05:54 PM
how can you prove what all you have said about rama is true...

rama did construct the bridge with the help of monkey totem vanaras to invade srilanka

and by the way who is the adam??
do you think whole humanity is sinned and need to be saved by only true god, because that guy ate an forbidden apple...
idiotic stories??

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JGN
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 06:34 PM
Dear sitaram sakthi, when we question the story of Jesus' birth, why can't we question the story of Ram's birth also? Hope you are aware of that.

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sitaram sakthi
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by sitaram sakthi on Jan 22, 2008 06:39 PM
if u die today, there is not proof tomorrow...
there is going to be people in this world at all times, who is going to have contradictory beliefs..
its going to be boring world if every one thinks alike...

i believe ram existed and u believe he didnt...
that the end to it...
neither u will change ur mind.. neither am going to..

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Himanshu Upadhyaya
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by Himanshu Upadhyaya on Jan 22, 2008 05:50 PM
i have also researched about this so called 'ram sethu' and found exactly what u mentioned. i agree with what u're saying but its hard for those big heads hindus. no body even knows if ram ever existed and they are counting on the structure made by hypothetical ram.

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Demo-crazy
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 05:56 PM
Could you please share some information on the sources you referred to.

If Ram did not exist, then you can also safely negate the existence of Allah, Jesus, etc.

Dum hai kya?
Why no one dares to make such comments against Islam or Christianity? Because of swift response from fanatic who does not mind dying, when they attempt killing any opponent?

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Shiva
Who cares!
by Shiva on Jan 22, 2008 05:41 PM  | Hide replies


Why should karuna care about whether big ships can come in/get out as long as big money can fill his coffers. I don't know how much money he will take in his coffin!

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Demo-crazy
RE:Who cares!
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 05:44 PM
dmk will build a pyramid! mummify the body, and keep all the collection around it!

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praja
ram
by praja on Jan 22, 2008 05:36 PM

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