The religious Hindus are opposed to Sethu Project. Not because they think it affects the marine biology or because it is expensive but because they think that this Adams Bridge is nothing but a construction by Lord Rama (of Ramayana) used by Rama to invade Lanka According to mythology (as foretold in Ramayana), Rama constructed a bridge with the help of army of monkeys to invade Lanka. So, these experts suggest that this Adams bridge between India and Sri Lanka is indeed the same bridge that Rama constructed. Some of them, in an attempt to gleefully satisfy this theory have even suggested that Rama and his cohorts existed more than 1.7 million years ago to coincide with the time this formation happened.
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by sitaram sakthi on Jan 22, 2008 05:31 PM
These christians are still searching proof of some one who doesnt even existed... they believe in all the funny biblical stories
but we indians even if we have proof we want to destroy it..
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 05:49 PM
Well said.
I wonder how many Muslims can prove that the Allah revealed Kuran to Mohammad.
How many can prove the miracles attributed to Jesus Christ.
When the muslims do not belive in idol worship, why they have to go around kaaba, or bow in its direction? Why they should get upset about a cartoon, when none of them have seen how the prophet looked?
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by Contractor on Jan 22, 2008 06:07 PM
Burden of proof lies where?? Majority populace seems believe (or have faith on) existance of Ram. Is the burden of proof on them or on the other set of folks (scientific/atheistic or whatever)? I am just curious.I have no way of knowing the result of a complete scientific research on Ram . I do feel the burden is on the questioners (in the name of science/atheism/theism or whatever ism) rather than the believers.
Sadly, There is very little tolerance in the comment section. So, before bashing me, know that I am not a scientist, call me a fool - I can assure u I wont be offended.. This will help the basher to write some sensible bashing! Thanks
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 07:53 PM
You misunderstood me. The idea of putting those questions was to see whether others accept their own burden of proof!
What I feel is Hinduism is most abused, more so by many Hindus themselves. There are any number of idiosyncrasies in other religions too. Their intolerance, and violent reactions deter people from questioning any of their beliefs. So, the easy route people take is to bash Hinduism. This is what MF Hussain does with elan, so also Karuna, Sitaram(!) Yechury, etc.
If we do not have pride in our religion, then who can? By pride, I don't mean an intolerant attitude. I mean respect.
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by tka on Jan 22, 2008 06:31 PM
Listen contractor,
It does not matter who questions. It does matter that a lot of people believe. Therefore, we should not tamper with sentiments. Period. Not sure why debate this and keep hurting sentiments. In the same way, no one should question beliefs of muslims or christians. Its their beliefs. Period.
Therefore, I do not see the merit in having this discussion sethu samudram and infact no merit in the project itself. As the navy fellow said the large ships cannot ply anyways, which is what we wanted to via the sethu samudram.
RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by sami qureshi on Jan 23, 2008 01:19 PM
mr demo crazy muslim belive allah mohammed is a messanger of allah first u read quran and understand quran then u will only know what is correct or what is wrong .
first tell me to how gods do hindus pray one is ram or kishan or panch pandav or hanuman or snake or cow or elephant or rat or stone or gautham buddha or viveknanda or tree or lord shiva or durga matta or kali matha or water or sun or moon or star or fire . to whom u pray first of u hindu people dont no waht is right or what is wrong so hindu people r so confiused so much .first u hindu people correct your self . understand u better understand
RE:RE:Why rightwing opposes this project?
by JGN on Jan 23, 2008 05:19 PM
Dear sami qureshi, though I do not believe in any god, I will explain the hindu (or Indian) way of worship to you. The ancient Sages of our Country believed that the Universe originated from a single primal principle called "SAT" and in whatever form you worhsip, the same ultimately reaches the said primal principle ("SAT"). The Indian gods are not jealous like the gods of Abrahamic religion (which is the fountain-head of intolerance of the followers of those religions).
You people should know that the project has been studied by qualified engineers, economists, businessmen and higher executives. they discussed all aspects before coming to the conclusion. You fools are talking without proper knowledge and expertise. Do not be emotional, somebody want to encash your emotions. Be practical and think positively and get first hand knowledge. This project is well studied and perfect.
RE:This project is perfect and well studied.
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 05:18 PM
Mr.karunanidhi, Pl read the article "The Sethu Samudram does not make nautical sense" by Captain H Balakrishnan (published by Rediff some time back, still available) to understand the matter. Leave aside the faiths. This project is not technically and commercially viable.
RE:This project is perfect and well studied.
by ashok setty on Jan 22, 2008 05:07 PM
"This project is perfect and well studied" Good joke.. Till now I haven't read any where about this!!
RE:This project is perfect and well studied.
by bullseye on Jan 22, 2008 05:20 PM
dear friend ,i am in shipping business and this project is totally waste and it will not serve tuticorin port becouse imports in to tuticorin port does not come from direction of ship navigation via sscp but from middle east,russia and indonesia where those ships for supply of imports cargo need not use this sscp.this project will end up as a project of no return.
RE:This project is perfect and well studied.
by rajesh on Jan 22, 2008 05:03 PM
Forget the history part.
Is it practical to go with the project despite knowing that big ships cannot ply on this route. And most of the International Freight Carriers are big ship.
Do not to make this as a prestige issue and understand the reality.
READ THE FULL STORY AT http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/apr/25tarun.htm
"Local fishermen, Hindus, Muslims and Christians alike oppose the present route and are demanding alternative channels, which are available. They say the present channel would destroy marine life and corals. This will kill the trade in shankas (shells) that has a turnover in excess of Rs 150 crore (Rs 1.5 billion) per annum. Invaluable thorium deposits would be affected, which are too important for our nuclear fuel requirements."
RE:ALL RELIGION FROM THE REGION ARE AGAINST IT...
by Nanchil on Jan 22, 2008 04:59 PM
I do not know whether the socalled Ram is god or politician but his 'bhaktas' are good politicians. How many tactics! How many lies! Nice going.
RE:ALL RELIGION FROM THE REGION ARE AGAINST IT...
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 05:19 PM
Pl read the article "The Sethu Samudram does not make nautical sense" by Captain H Balakrishnan to understand the matter. Leave aside the faiths. This project is not technically and commercially viable.
Though I am a muslim, Ram is our ancestor & we are proud of his character. Indian govt. should protect the Ramsethu & hence safeguard the feelings of not only Hindus but also non-Hindus like me. Let me make it clear that the muslims like me have the history of only last 1500 years. Since Ram is an ancient figure with great character, this is an issue of national heritage & not only the heritage of Hindus. BJP has no business to hijack this issue. Ram belongs to all & not only to the BJP/RSS.
Some of my muslim brothers have questioned my identity as a muslim. I feel pity for them. I can say with evidance that my ancestors were not norn in West Asia & they were the local people here. Why should I believe in the Adam theory? I believe in Islam & I always try to link it with spirituality & peace. Let us use RamSethu as a bridge between our present & our past. I strongly urge the people not ot make Ram marginalised to a specific religion. Let us treat him as a national figure.
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Solid Man on Jan 22, 2008 04:41 PM
WE DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH RAM SETHU HERE MUSLIMS AND CHRISTINAS ARE TALKING LIKE THIS COZ THEY GET THE SAME TYPE OF COMMENTS WHEN THEIR SUBJECT BECOMES THE TOPIC
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Solid Man on Jan 22, 2008 05:03 PM
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RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 05:20 PM
thanks. will check.
But why some people want to block the original comment by Rehana? It seems they are not able digest Rehana Khan's words. I am amazed at this effort to silence any alternate view.
If there is any sense, please provide your views, not block a comment just because it is bitter.
Here they are for reference. Why don't you guys question that Mohammed went on a horse to heaven Why don't you question the killings sanctioned for so called kafirs in quran Why don't you question the belief that mohammed is last prohet? Why don't you question that did god really speak to mohammed? Why don't you question the validity of going around kaaba which was originally a shrine of kafirs Why don't you question the logic that what is valid for saudi should be valid for all muslims in the world What discrepancies you are talking about. First try to understand your own religion. Do not blindly read them without understanding. Those who live in glass housed should not throw stones at others
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Mahesh Krishnan on Jan 22, 2008 05:25 PM
Nice post Rehanna
This are the questions which generally so called kafirs have, Muslim don't dare to question this things and if somebody questions the mullahs will raise a fatwa for them.
What I feel is Muslims are blindly following there religion and they do not dare to questions the authenticity of there religion, Iam a hindu If I can question the existence of ram, but at the same time I am sure that people will listen to me and counter my theory, this is the case with most of the religion.
But in case of Islam if anybody question then there is a fatwa against them.
according to Islam prophmet mohammad at the age of 40 heard some heavely voice which dicated him for another 20 years. what is the life of Prophmet mohammad before that, no body nows exactly that, this are the questions which many people like to ask, how can you trust a man who always wanted to kills kafirs(no matter what is the reason).
Muslim are the intolerant people in the world (some of them are good muslims) and according to quran this mulsim will go to hell and the muslims which kill the kafirs and follow the islam without questing its authenticity they will go to heaven and will get 72 virgins.
this 72 virgins cannot belong to kafirs they should be muslims daughter, from where the hell all this girls come from.??
Lots of questions in the mind of kafirs and kafirs can dare to ask ..but muslims will not ask??
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Mahesh Krishnan on Jan 22, 2008 05:39 PM
Dear JGN
Iam not questioning the authenticity of alimight which has trasmitted it, but the authenticity of person who received and interpreted it. Seems like the receiver TCP/IP structure was corrupted and he misintrepreted the messages from almighty..
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 05:29 PM
Dear Mahesh Krishnan, it seems that you are an ignorant person. The Koran is transmitted by the all powerful almighty thru wireless technology. How can you question the wrods of an all powerful almighty??????????
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by Daiva Das on Jan 22, 2008 04:44 PM
I have sympathy with you because you are keeping on cut and paste strategy and no new ideas are coming out of your head
RE:Ram is our ancestor also.
by karunanidhi on Jan 22, 2008 04:50 PM
I am also your love, thats why you are writing all this love letters. Religion is personal so do not mix with the development and country and peoples benefit.
RE:Ram is our ancestor also
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 04:50 PM
Rehana, will you please throw some light on - kaaba which was originally a shrine of kafirs?
When I see the Hajj pilgrims, tonsuring their heads, going around the black stone structure (I do not know what is it called - it does not look like a mosque), it reminds of the Pradakshina we do in the temples.
RE:RE:Ram is our ancestor also
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 05:11 PM
Some people who cannot digest Rehana Khan's words, are blocking her comment. I am amazed at this effort to silence any alternate view.
If there is any sense, please provide your views, not block a comment just because it is bitter.
RE:RE:RE:Ram is our ancestor also
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 05:21 PM
Demo-crazy, I have seen Ms. Rehana's messages earlier also. She is a liberal muslim. The hard-liners cannot digest her views!
RE:RE:RE:RE:Ram is our ancestor also
by Demo-crazy on Jan 22, 2008 05:29 PM
I did not know Javed Akhtar is also a hardliner. In one of the recent episodes of Lead India, a participant gave a balanced view on the topic given to him - Gujarat riots. He said the riots were wrong, should not have happened. And also drew attention to why such things happen. While Kiran bedi and others gave the guy 10/10, Javed bhai fuming with anger made some remarks and said he will give 2/10. It was so strange to see a judge bringing his personal feelings and bias into the role. Unfortunately, none protested.
My personal belief in him as an impartial man, were shaken after this show.
In Mumbai the Modi fool asking questions about RAM with the public and public was replying. He said people knows about Ram. He fool doesnt know that the Myth story has been told since centuries, even telecast, serials were produced and every body knows. This the Jewish Idea. They said tell lie thousand time the lie become truth and people think it is truth. It is whats happening. Fools thinking they are wise enough. People are more wise enough. When Ramayan was written, 100, 200 year ago. When the Brahmans/Higher Caste Transfering Power from Muslims to British.
This all funny stories. Webbed to get their Bread with Butter.
RE:Who is Ram?
by asdf asdf on Jan 22, 2008 04:31 PM
Fools recognise other fools very soon and without any problems. Do you have father and mother? I dont think you have. You were thrown out from the sky. If you have give proof.
RE:Who is Ram?
by Hari on Jan 22, 2008 04:41 PM
we don't believe that when a lie is told 1000 times it becomes a truth. we believe in SATYAMEVA JAYATE.
now could you please tell that there is no god or no Allah or no Jesus or no Muhemmed ?
RE:RE:Who is Ram?
by karunanidhi on Jan 22, 2008 04:47 PM
If you believe all this, I appreciate, Truth always remain truth. If you believe, Ram, Allah, jesus and others. Just keep it with you, at your home, temples, churches and mosques. Do not interfere and mix with government and politics. You are religous man, says truth, love truth, I respect you. But do not bring all this mess into development.
RE:Who is Ram?
by JGN on Jan 22, 2008 05:08 PM
Mr.karunanidhi, Pl read the article "The Sethu Samudram does not make nautical sense" by Captain H Balakrishnan to understand the matter. Leave aside the faiths. This project is not technically and commercially viable.
The Admiral has disappointed us with his line - "This is Tamil Nadu. And it is a sensitive issue,"
TRUTH MUST BE TOLD, and THE ADMIRAL SHOULD NOT FEAR ANY POLITICIAN.
The whole point about its viability falls flat when the big ships on international routes cannot use the Sethu samudram shipping canal.
Whom is the UPA government trying to fool? Looks like a project to swindle huge sums by the DMK and allies, apart from hurting the religious sentiments, they will ensure that as and when a Tsunami hits next time, it will cause more damage. The politicians don't care because in any natural calamity it is the poor who die, the politicians will use their death to make money, buy votes. We are sick of them.
At least, the Admiral should have displayed some courage to call a spade a spade.
RE:Admiral, are you afraid of Karunanidhi?
by karunanidhi on Jan 22, 2008 04:38 PM
Admiral lieing so he is G-P with Karuna. He knows Karuna would not leave the liars. Yes soon he will be punished. He must speak the truth and be loyal to the country and the people. The person who think of his own protection how can he protect the country and the people.
