After 61 years of independence and still seeing so much innocent human blood spilled by Islamic terrorists across the length and breadth of this country and the world, I am thinking that partition of Hindustan was a good decision by our forefathers and British. I am amazed by their vision that they could see so long in future and decided no one in the world can live peacefully along with Muslim fanatics. The entire world is seeing the truth for itself now. Name any other tragedy that repeatedly strikes the planet earth and kills so many people and curtails much human freedom. It is Islamic terrorism and this man made tragedy and epidemic that does across world. We meed to call spade a spade (unlike congress and commies) and root this out like we would root out cholera or plague or malaria. If the moderate muslims of the world can't root this menace out within some time bound period, the hindus, jews, sikhs and christians will do the job for them. Let the OIC decide how long they need to reign in their fanatic brethren, otherwise the day is not too far when the world provide a safe passage to all these fanatics to the heaven of Allah (peace be upon him).
For Jammu & Kashmir, lets split the state into two Jammu and Kashmir. For Kashmir valley, let us do a survey that who are all willing to abide by Indian constitution and Indian civil law can stay in Kashmir and rest of them can be provided free transport to Azad Kashmir(PoK). Let us return the Seperatist/Pakistan loyalists
RE:Partition was good decision for India 61 years back; why don't we partition Jammu & Kashmir as 2 seperate states;
by Proud Hindustani on Aug 16, 2008 11:29 AM
your heading id misleading--it sounds like you want to give away Kashmir portion under India's control. Pok exists because of Nehru sleeping at the wheel same for Tibet. The anti India Muslims in Kashmir and rest of India should be deported or arrested for treason.
RE:Partition was good decision for India 61 years back; why don't we partition Jammu & Kashmir as 2 seperate states;
by Arun Sambandan on Aug 16, 2008 07:28 PM
My apologies if my heading is misleading. I meant splitting J&K into 2 states but both will be integral part of India. Then each will have separate budget, military, police, economy and let them compete as modern societies. This would also satisfy Jammu's sacrifice so far. Let the Kashmir be 100% muslim but it will be under India. Let them have their own muslim governement & administration and we will watch what they do for their citizens. I could see it may become a very backward society. But it won't hurt India. Let us see how they fare themselves for modern times. If they dig a hole for themselves, let us allow that. But military will be Indian and it will guard India's borders. Those who still feel it is alienation of muslims can very well leave Kashmir/India and go to PoK or Pakistan. And in next war with Pakistan we should take back PoK.
RE:Partition was good decision for India 61 years back; why don't we partition Jammu & Kashmir as 2 seperate states;
by Mohammed imran on Aug 18, 2008 12:37 PM
Agreed but you please shuld not dream that you may take our land
RE:Partition was good decision for India 61 years back; why don't we partition Jammu & Kashmir as 2 seperate states;
by pooja sharma on Aug 16, 2008 12:02 PM
The only fuss which was made during the partition was about the exchange of the population. The Gandhis and Nehru and congress should have agreed for the population exchange in 1947 itself.
RE:Partition was good decision for India 61 years back; why don't we partition Jammu & Kashmir as 2 seperate states;
by neeti mehta on Aug 18, 2008 12:06 PM
"The Gandhis and Nehru and congress should have agreed for the population exchange in 1947 itself."very rightly said,,agar aisa tab hota to aaj,india aur pakistan,dono shanti se reh rahe hote..
After 61 years of independence and still seeing so much innocent human blood spilled by Islamic terrorists across the length and breadth of this country and the world, I am thinking that partition of Hindustan was a good decision by our forefathers and British. I am amazed by their vision that they could see so long in future and decided no one in the world can live peacefully along with Muslim fanatics. The entire world is seeing the truth for itself now. Name any other tragedy that repeatedly strikes the planet earth and kills so many people and curtails much human freedom. It is Islamic terrorism and this man made tragedy and epidemic that does across world. We meed to call spade a spade (unlike congress and commies) and root this out like we would root out cholera or plague or malaria. If the moderate muslims of the world can't root this menace out within some time bound period, the hindus, jews, sikhs and christians will do the job for them. Let the OIC decide how long they need to reign in their fanatic brethren, otherwise the day is not too far when the world provide a safe passage to all these fanatics to the heaven of Allah (peace be upon him).
For Jammu & Kashmir, lets split the state into two Jammu and Kashmir. For Kashmir valley, let us do a survey that who are all willing to abide by Indian constitution and Indian civil law can stay in Kashmir and rest of them can be provided free transport to Azad Kashmir(PoK). Let us return the Seperatist/Pakistan loyalists.
RE:Partition was good decision for India 61 years back; why don't we partition Jammu & Kashmir as 2 seperate states;
by MGR Fan on Aug 16, 2008 05:57 PM
I ENDORSE YOUR IDEA.
Amarnath is not much about pilgrims getting proper facilities as none of the Kashmir based parties have calinmed they are against the Govt providing good support to the pilgrims ! It is more about 2 loosers last bid to get back to main stream The Kashmiri extremits - who have been given a big blow by the moderates who wanted to be in the indian union. After the last election and the huge turn arround for the J & K elections they were waiting for some thing to increase tensions as they were beeing forgotten by the people of kashmir. For the BJP - After they failed in the trust vote and Mayavathi beating advani ji by pulling off some of his supporting parties like TDP, Akalidal and Jayalalitha is trying every stunds . The party who bribed MLAs isn Karnataka to support BJp sudeenely tried stunds with cash for vote when the news media found the drama and did not support old man wanted to bet on his best bet Hindu Muslim BLoods to rtain power
RE:Amarnath - Its an issue of 2 loosers fighing for survival
by Sincere Citizen on Aug 17, 2008 01:25 AM
First BJP is not the ONLY communal force in this country there are many many more including the current rulers in center and the Kashmiri separatists.
Problem is there is no firm leadership which wants to serve the country and hence such problems remain unsolved at the mercy of all the collective communal leadership. Dont just keep blaming BJP because our "secular" brigade and media propaganda says so.
RE:Amarnath - Its an issue of 2 loosers fighing for survival
by MGR Fan on Aug 16, 2008 06:03 PM
Govt of Kashmir is doing nothing to pilgrims, they only plant bombs to kill and main pilgrims. So your claim itself is wrong.
RE:Amarnath - Its an issue of 2 loosers fighing for survival
by don dicosta on Aug 18, 2008 01:14 PM
hello mr know all imran! ONE CORRECTION IN KARNATAK BJP WON NOT ONCE BUT TWO TIMES PEOPLE GAVE MAJORITY.IT IS U R CONGIEES AND ZERO MLA/MP JD(S), THEY ARE STANDING IN FRONT OF BJPOFFICE WITHOUT I REPEAT NO CONDITION. DON NOT LIE ON PUBLIC FORUM ALL CONGIEES AND JDS HAVE LOST DEPOSITS!
RE:Amarnath - Its an issue of 2 loosers fighing for survival
by Abhijit Manohar on Aug 16, 2008 12:26 PM
Amarnath is all about political parties playing on the minds of innocent people, but we should not forget that there is an underlying bad blood amongst the ppl that are being incited to do this! It is also true that there have been grave injustices to both Hindus & Muslims, so not giving the land and making an issue out of it is the worse possible thing that can be done........ for gods sake it is a barren piece of land, how much prime property has been allocated for Hajis???!!!!!
Looks like the Kashmir is going the Palestine way . With the BJP trick of using the Hindu and Muslim Blood for earning votes suceeding yet again . The govt of India under preassure from the comming election is again started shootig at unarmed protesters. this will not go well with the Indian cause of keeping kashmir with India. india should realise the world have no history of any nation being able to hold to to any territory using military Might 1.Soviet Union had to be dismandles and russions could not keep the union together 2.The govt of British could not keep Ireland with them 3.Israel with all the backing from the US is today getting forced to accept the exixtance of palestine state. 4. Paksitan was not able to keep bangaladesh when the bengladeshis wanted to stay away. 5. cina with all its might is strugling with the Tibet issue 6. India is palying to the hands of the anti india groups under preassure from BJP .for BJP they are expeting to consolidate the loosing hindu votes while for the extreme elements in Kashmier they get a chance to pounce up on the moderates in kashmir . For india either way its a loss
RE:Kashmir going the palestine / tibet way !
by sakar panch on Aug 16, 2008 09:37 AM
China (cina as per you). Roped in Hong kong and virtually taking over Taiwan..... so pls do accept the reverse possibilities too.
RE:Kashmir going the palestine / tibet way !
by Arun Sambandan on Aug 16, 2008 10:30 AM
If required India can also use guns. Why do you think we buy guns in the military budget year after year. Who asked the fanatics to stay in India if they can't follow or adjust to India's culture; let them pack their bags and leave to Pakistan. You guys should have done that 61 years ago. We can provide another 1 year now if those guys need time.
RE:Kashmir going the palestine / tibet way !
by Sincere Citizen on Aug 17, 2008 01:22 AM
Fact is separatists are using Islam and terror to support their cause. Problem is not BJP but rather these separatists and the so called secular brigade.
Kashmir has had problems long before existence of BJP, in fact the problems started in 1946/47 when illegal occupants from Pakistan started encroaching and killing in Kashmir. That was the reason why Indian army went there in first place.
As usual you are blaming BJP and going on with your rantings fact is you need to be very ojective to find the true cause.
RE:Kashmir going the palestine / tibet way !
by MGR Fan on Aug 16, 2008 06:06 PM
You are wrong on all points.
1. Soviet Union was an artificial construct created by communists, its collapse was guaranteed anyway.
2. Britain still retains North Ireland. 3. palestine is a dead state, half of palestinians are unemployed and rest work for Israeli economy. 4. Pakistan lost bangladesh because of urdu fanaticism. Pakistan thought urdu to be greater than bengali and that led to its ruin. 5. China has solved tibet problem by colonizing tibet with chinese, not by giving tibeti people rights. 6. The issue is not BJP or extremists - the issue is about the way Kashmir valley people are crushing the voice of Jammu and Ladakh. Kashmir people are not angels from heavens, they must realise that they cant survive a day without help from rest of India.
RE:Kashmir going the palestine / tibet way !
by MGR Fan on Aug 16, 2008 06:01 PM
Hey answer this - If 99% Muslim Lakshadweep can be part of India, if 85% christian mizoram can be part of India, what stops the Muslim Kashmir valley from being part of INida.
The gold brought by bindra is not flash in the pan. Rathore brought the silver in last olympics and nation expected more this year. Our PM should have mentioned the achievement in his address and the promise that much more will be done for supports now.Anyway it was an election speech we all agree and let it be so.
The gold brought by bindra is not flash in the pan. Rathore brought the silver in last olympics and nation expected more this year. Our PM should have mentioned the achievement in his address and the promise that much more will be done for supports now.Anyway it was an election speech we all agree and let it be so.
RE:sobering thoughts on i-day
by sakar panch on Aug 16, 2008 09:38 AM
Don't worry... I hear our politicians have already promissed. "Silver in 2004, Gold in 2008 and Platinum in 2012" The manifestos are being proof read now.
The gold brought by bindra is not flash in the pan. Rathore brought the silver in last olympics and nation expected more this year. Our PM should have mentioned the achievement in his address and the promise that much more will be done for supports now.Anyway it was an election speech we all agree and let it be so.
The gold brought by bindra is not flash in the pan. Rathore brought the silver in last olympics and nation expected more this year. Our PM should have mentioned the achievement in his address and the promise that much more will be done for supports now.Anyway it was an election speech we all agree and let it be so.
Who is this Ultranationalist hindu ?? He is definitely not the majority of hindus in this Nation who make thier living working hard and toiling . But he is the one geting vomitting when he sees back word leaders like Mayavathi , Lalu or Mulayam because they do not have credentials of exploitation of people on caste! They are definitely not the sons and daughetrs of great men who fought for the freedom of the Nation , they have scant regards for them , But belong to the money lender communities who exploited the indians under the british rule ! They definitely were not the decendents of freedom fighters as they were the off shoot of jansangh which joined hands with british to kill the then freedom movement under the congress. They are definitely not the sikhs or the gurkas who fought great wars for the nation and gave their sons for the nations. They were always exploiters alaways They exploited the Nation as money lenders under the british They clapped and cheered sitting at home war heroes not going any where near the war zone These were alwaays the middle claas little educated snobs who have contibuted nothing to the national cause than gyans. You dont see Sikhs screaming anti relegious sentiments in India , You dont see so called lower cast hindus screaming the same while you seee plendy of them in the Indian Army.. Have you seen Gujjus and Marvadis In the army ??
Secularism is possible only if ALL people are willing to accept that ALL RELIGIONS ARE VALID. Abrhamic religions like christianity and islam DONOT accept this view. They keep saying that ONLY their faith is valid- even in India. The same people abuse the term secularism. If Hindus do not have a place in India on equal terms where will they go? Why should they - with 80 % population. We can solve our caste problems - we should not allow the british legacy to continue to divide us. The "neo british" like converting christians and intolerant muslims should not be allowed to divide us in India. We have several self seeking politicians who use these divisions for votes - they also should be handled carefully. Karunanidhi, Mulayam, Lalu, Sonia, Rajshekar Reddy, Commies of several shades of red are all enemies of secularism who propound their own definition of secularism - secularism for them is anti hinduism. This view has to be countered strongly. I think that any one who cannot accept that all religions are true should leave India.
RE:secularism
by Infidel Blogger on Aug 16, 2008 09:05 AM
You also missed our jehadi media who are hellbent on sympathising with terrorists. And the dark cloud of gandhi-nehru legacy from last 61 years.
RE:secularism
by Mohammed imran on Aug 16, 2008 09:03 AM
Why do you feel so , Is India a a land got in dowry for the Hisndus in india. How may Muslims or chirstians are screaming against the 49 % reservation hindus get in India in the name of SC / ST what ever it may be for both Jobs and Education How many of the sikhs and buddidits in india cry foul when the Hindu temples are maintained and hindu prients paid pension from the stet echequre from the tax payers money ! How many riots have happened in India b/c the muslims demanded govt land for the Mosque !!
RE:RE:RE:secularism
by Praveen on Aug 16, 2008 09:52 AM
1. Muslims and Christians get reservation under OBC quota (as much as 12% by Kerala Muslims). 2. Hindu temple priests are not payed by the government. The Government in some places like Kerala have taken over the temples. The money is payed from the temple income. The temples are administered by the Communists and Congress (both anti Hindu). 3. Average Hindu does not have any problem with Sikhs, Buddists, Parsis, Jains etc. 4. Abrahamic religions are, by design, against secularism. Killing the infidel is part of their duty. Christians have stopped physical killling but are into cultural invasion. Islam continues to kill. 5. The followers of Abrahamic religions in India are the vestiges of invasions. 6. Pakistan was created for Muslims. An average Indian cannot understand why Muslims are still creating problems in India when they were given a separate land.
