RE:Lord Ram Alive
by kapil nautiyal on Apr 16, 2008 12:15 PM
Mr. Suresn, first of all...this project would destroy ecology of the region....then this would harm the sentiments..and lastly it is not economically viable as stated in many reports...so there stands no reason to build it...even if it is economically viable...is it more important then our environment...my friend if we play with nature...it is ourself we are destrying...lets respect nature...coz it is wht has kept us alive
RE:Lord Ram Alive
by JGN on Apr 16, 2008 11:40 AM
Here the problem is that the project is not viable technically economically. It will benefit the dredging companies and the politicians who can earn kick-backs. Otherwise Lord Ram (even if he existed) has no use of that bridge now!
RE:Lord Ram Alive
by S Suresh on Apr 16, 2008 11:43 AM
In all Project these Politician will eat Money but if they eat 10 percent also atleast 90 percent will come for development.
If you study this Project deeply, it is very well economically growth oriented one for future INDIA.
RE:Lord Ram Alive
by JGN on Apr 16, 2008 11:48 AM
Enough studiesa have already been conducted and it has been proven beyond doubt that the project is not viable. There was an article on Rediff itself on this matter.
i am a common man, not a wise person but just a common man. My simple question is, when Valmiki wrote the mahakavya RAMAYANA, how could he know that there was a bridge between the coasts of tamilnadu and sri lanka. it means that it was built and built by wanar sena of lord rama. as simple as that. no evidences required for beliefs. Indians (indians means indians and not any particular religion) beware of intruders of our religious beliefs and be united.
RE:just one simple question
by King on Apr 16, 2008 11:46 AM
You r just a stupid "crazy". There r old copy of Ramayans availables and we use same version without alteration while u can say most of religion books r inspired to our religious book. I think u r talking abt Bible which is modified more than 100 times.
RE:RE:just one simple question
by Palani on Apr 16, 2008 12:15 PM
Dear king, There r old copy of Ramayans availables and we use same version without alteration while u can say most of religion books r inspired to our religious book.
If You say ramayan is true history then there should be proper answer to the following question. now where are the old copy of ramayans? written by whom? is the old ramayana is in its original language? what is the language of script? Rama came from ayodhya all the way upto rameswaram. What were the languages spoken by the people on his way? what was the commuction media with the vanarasena? Was ravana speaking the same language that rama was speaking? I dont question your belief. But if it is said a history then justification is essential.
RE:RE:RE:just one simple question
by kapil nautiyal on Apr 16, 2008 12:45 PM
The saddest part of these discussions I feel is...we understimate the knowledge...powers n development of the older ages...my friend...we feel..thanks to ur understanding of science...that at that time...we were apes...living in jungles n caves...just becoz they havent got the proofs...doesnt mean....older civilzations were not advanced...they have however started getting the proof....and slowly will...science/historical science..is a devloping science...we still dont know nothing for sure...so we cannot fight anything based on history....we may/may not be sure....we should have FAITH...thats important....true rama...may not actually be how he is depicted...but we stand for his values...his purity....myths as they are called had metaphors...and at the same time were based on actual stories of the times...so lets respect..peoples faith
RE:RE:RE:just one simple question
by Palani on Apr 16, 2008 12:18 PM
who is hindu? was he living in india before 1400 years? do vedas say anything about hindu? does geeta say anything about hindu? do upanishads say anything about hindu? the best of the tamil literature is thirukkural. does thirukkural say anything about hindu? which of the old scriptures justify hindu?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:just one simple question
by kapil nautiyal on Apr 16, 2008 12:36 PM
True....hindu as a term was given by greeks...who named it after Indus...they called the people...hindoos....and hence hindu..term is being used.... earlier our religion was knows as 'sanatan dharma'..am not 100% sure about this....coz this is history...and nothing is guaranted in history...for that fact..when was jesus born...or whether there was an actual jesus...no one really knows.history doesnt matter...faith does
RE:just one simple question
by JGN on Apr 16, 2008 12:24 PM
There were no hindus nor even Indian sub-continent. Every thing was brought by the arab invaders. Are you happy now???
DMK is not against Ram or Ramayana. But if these superstitions are a hurdle for Development then they will not tolerate. TN will execute this project successfully shortly. We dont have to read Ramayan story to decide about our Projects. I am a ardent Hindu, but still I support DMK as they have united people beyond caste and fight for the development of Tamil Nadu. Northern states like Bihar, UP or MP will not develop and also dont allow others to develop. I am a ardent Hindu, but still I support Sethu Samudram Project as they development to Tamil Nadu and also to the whole of Eastern Coast as it will reduce the Ship Travel time.
Lets assume that Ram built Adam%u2019s Bridge. Even he will agree to destroy it if it will provide job opportunity, a livelihood to lots of people and development in that part of Tamilnadu. 30% People are below poverty line and your are still blocking all the development activities in the name of religion, caste, etc.. Please allow India to grow.
RE:DMK a True Rationalist Party
by Dipak Bose on Apr 16, 2008 11:42 AM
Yes, DMK is rationalist. It was opposed to the Freedom of India. Let the Tamil rationalists go to Britain and clean the toilets of their master. So they can go to Sri Lanka and get killed by Lankans. Or they can go to Malaysia and work as Collies. They should not try to impose their will on the rest of India, when they have little to show off except their very black faces.
RE:DMK a True Rationalist Party
by bullseye on Apr 16, 2008 12:30 PM
kanth you are still in 19th century when sethu canal project was mooted by britishman.during those time,many smaller ships were in market but during last 5 years since the olymbic game prepration was started,china went on modern building construction activities which warrant china to import huge quantity of steel scraps, iron ore,steel items which made steel prices almost double. so all small ships owners scrapped their old smaller ships due to unviable cost of operation due to higher crew wages and unviable cost of operation.now all smaller ships gone on scraps in china and in turn china supplied to many countries new ships of more than 30,000 mts to 80,000 mts with higher draft as chinese ships are normaly made bottom as convergent shape. so we need to have a draft of 12 meters min with safety certificates from pni club and suez canal authorities (suez canal will take vessels of 1,60,000 mts )unlike suez and panama canals which was built on land based river, sscp is sea based narrow passage wherein mud sediments will be deposited frequently.so every year dredging,pilotage cost,gate opening and closing,certifications for safety,absence of deeper depth would make this project most white elephant unworkable project.it will end as veeranam or cooum canal beautification project of DMK which gave revenue only to them and not to the people.people can see in map and not enjoy.better govt spend on roads,hospitals,power stations,bridges to benefit people rather than
RE:DMK a True Rationalist Party
by loler Chicken on Apr 16, 2008 11:43 AM
well your rational thinking will surely help us destroy Qutubminar, Redfort, Tajmahal, Charminar, india gate, etc etc... IN THE name of Development...
RE:DMK a True Rationalist Party
by anand kumar on Apr 16, 2008 11:40 AM
if this project is taken up.. the general speed of a ship is reduced by half at least. i dont know how this is a developmental activity of DMK. This is just to garner black wealth in the name of development. karunanidhi sucks now
RE:DMK a True Rationalist Party
by kanth on Apr 16, 2008 11:54 AM
TN is not Bihar where Politicians have no source of money wo they go even to the extend on corruption in cattle feed. There are lots of money around in TN and If DMK want to make money they could easy do in road construction, Real estate, etc.. Where even if they make Rs 10000 CR no body will ever know and u will keep ur mouth and as_ shut.
All the crap being written on this board is not going to impact SC. Have faith in SC and wait for judgement. I am sure SC will give a fair judgement like they did while upholding constitutional validity of reservation for OBC.
I don't think the credentials of our founding fathers could be questioned by anybody. The Indian Constitution drafted by them, giving due protection to the minorities in the context of culture and education, is widely acknowledged to be among the best in the world. In that constitution, the illustration of Rama shines forth as a proud inheritance. Many may not be aware that the constitution contains this illustration of Rama. Now, sixty years down the line, people who would not measure up to the ankle of the founding fathers are out to wreck that heritage, alter the history and hide from the children their country's past. The present UPA Government is causing irreparable damage to the social and religious fabric of this country through myriad acts. I do not know if anyone truly appreciates the depth of the damage they are wreaking and what it means to the Hindus. Every country, including the West, takes pains to preserve their heritage and are proud of it. Our learned politicians are out to destroy anything that comes in the way of their amassing wealth. Helpless Hindus can only turn to Rama for succour. How about therefore a common prayer assembly in every village and town to sensitise the insensitive?
RE:The status of Ram in India
by anand kumar on Apr 16, 2008 11:43 AM
common prayer assembly is to sensitise the insensitive and not for any particular cause. guess u understood it now clearly
RE:The status of Ram in India
by Dipak Bose on Apr 16, 2008 11:37 AM
Who is your founding father? The British. Because the constitution of India was very similar to the 1935 British India Act. Whatever new was added in 1947-1950 was done by the British officers, sometime British missineries. They are your founding father of your constitution.
RE:DMK a True Rationalist Party!!
by arun singh on Apr 16, 2008 11:35 AM
Not all people of North India believe in RSS philosophy of destruction. That is why BJP is already nowhere in UP and Bihar and very soon it will be wiped out from MP, Rajasthan, Chattisgarh in the next assembly elections.
comments of cj that who worships ramsetu is very very unfortunate and derogatory.hindus are orphans in this country and their beliefs have no respect. it has become ravana regime.
RE:ramsetu
by venkat on Apr 16, 2008 11:36 AM
The national interest is far ahead of religion. Why the this BJP and other people bring the religion front when govt is doing some devolopment activities. Tell me now how many peaople upto now go and see the Ramsetu
RE:ramsetu
by bullseye on Apr 16, 2008 11:53 AM
why muslims pray namaz towards the direction of mecca where there is only kappa stone exist. similarly we hindus pray towards the direction of ram sethu everyday.many people visit ram sethu which you can see even today with visit to dhanashkodi (dhanu means bow-kodi means corner - tip of the bow )which is the starting point for the bridge. venkat is the product of adam and eve and sinners like him can not see ram sethu by eyes.
RE:RE:ramsetu
by anand kumar on Apr 16, 2008 12:00 PM
Belief has nothing to do with visiting. I believe Vaisho Devi's existence but never visited it. does that mean that there is no vaisho devi itself? ridiculous thinking mr. venkat. and what developmental work u r talking about? A project that reduces 50% of the regular speed of a ship - is sethusamudram a developmental activity? A project that manifolds the tsunami and storms attack on the coastal states - is that a developmental activity? need to throw some light on the facts before posting dear venkat.
RE:ramsetu
by All Right on Apr 16, 2008 11:37 AM
Absoultely. Coz the other patangas still can flee to Saudi, UAE, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Malaysia... you name it and the Quran readers are there... Bush might try to displace one Iraq, but there are other non-Secular countries to give the crazy funky's some refuge.
Good advice crazy. Sundara, you better listen to the crazy.
RE:ramsetu
by anand kumar on Apr 16, 2008 11:48 AM
brahmins suckers? i believe a few of brahmins are earning good and otherwise brahmins are reduced to FBCs (FORWARD Backward Casts or Financially Backward Casts). Religious beliefs have nothing to do with casts. they are religious beliefs. and as for the ramasethu is concerned, it is belief of HINDUS and not just brahmins. ARUN Jee, please mind your language before uttering such filthy words.
