quotas exist in Indian only. Never seen such practice anywhere in the world. Sure India is unique, the results will be unique too. Wait and watch this country balkanize....cheers to congress party...
RE:FYI,,,
by ezra singh on Apr 13, 2008 11:02 AM
Yes, if you want to remain in politics, in India, Quota Politics is the best way to Fool the OBC, ST & SC to get votes. It is the fodder to the gullible masses !
RE:FYI,,,
by Your Nemesis on Apr 13, 2008 10:31 AM
Caste system exist in India only. Never seen such an evil system anywhere in the world. Sure India is unique. We have watched India balkaized for the last 4000 yrs. Cheers to congress party....
Reservations are justified only for discriminated people like Dalits, STs and Widows. Becasue they face certain social hindrances--they look down by OBCs [Dalits often say OBCs are harsher than upper caste people]. Similarly Dalits find it difficult to get private accomodation outside the campus. Similarly, widows can suffer discrimination and unpleasant comments.
BUT OBCs ARE NOT DISCRIMINATED PEOPLE, AND THEY DON'T DESERVE RESERVATIONS.
RE:SCRAP OBC RESERVATIONS !!!
by rationalist on Apr 13, 2008 10:10 AM
Hello Dinosarus , welcome to the new age.. hope u r not that tyrannosaurs Rex :-)
Yes u r right in aa away..OBC r much more powerful than they were . And in general few dares to discriminate against them in public places..(Chances are that if some one does so, they will be beaten up to pulp). That is why we have many anti OBC talk in this internet forum where one can be anonymous. But u dont find any aggressive anti OBC move in the streets or no abusive language is talked against them in public. But that is out of the fear factor and not because upper cats have suddenly started respecting them.In the inner conscience of a upper cast ego, there is till a lot of perverted pride remining which they carried on from ages.
Now while it is true that OBC are not discriminated in public places, they are discriminated agaist in public institutions, or wherever there is an excess concentration of Brahmins and upper casts. The reservation policy aims at targeting these areas and trying to influx these places with OBC s and SCs.
This is happening because OBC are powerful and not because they were not. If they were not powerful they would have never able to enforce a law in their favor.
Remember so rules will be made in the society based on the will and wish of who is powerful. In olden times Brahmins and local rulers were so powerful that the laws were made in their favor. Now the OBCs and SC are so much powerful that laws are made in their favor.
RE:SCRAP OBC RESERVATIONS !!!
by Mahendra Patel on Apr 13, 2008 10:26 AM
HERE IS WHAT I SEE FROM MY ANGLE, CONGRESS/UPA HAS CROSSED THE SANITY LINE, AND THEY WILL SEE END OF THEIR REIN OVER INDIA, BECAUSE THEY PLAYED WITH FIRE THIS TIME. YOU DON'T PEOPLE ON STREET BUT WILL SEE LOT MORE DURING NEXT ELECTION TO CAST THEIR VIEW ON BALLOT BOX.
In May 2007, the magazine "Science" published a research study that showed that intelligent and analytical ability are inherited.
In India, all castes are endogamous. Thus, intelligence got concentrated among a few groups through successive generations.
Some three thousand years ago, there was some sort of IQ test administered to the population at large and they were all divided into various castes. Just like people in the West bred dogs for specific characteristics (but produced mongrel people), India produced persons with specific characteristics but our dogs are mongrels.
The SC/ST/BC/OBC/MBC bunch, having lost out in the IQ tests earlier are justifiably afraid of taking a competitive examination again now to determine their true worth. Because, after 3000 years of marriage with persons of low IQs, they have become incapable of analytical reasoning. This is why they do not want to ever take a competitive examination.
My suggestion is that the SC/ST/BC/OBC/MBC persons be issued degree certificates along with their birth certificate and caste certificate so they do not have to clog up any educational institution. They can contentedly laze away their time waiting for a government job.
RE:Quotas are justifiable
by rationalist on Apr 13, 2008 09:46 AM
Cool Down Ayer saar :-)
How much IQ hold now 200 ??
I guess u r from Tamilnadu and as per the statistics published, the OBC students are performing are better than uppper cast students in Tamil universities ( same cant be said about the OBCs in North) Now if u dont leanrn from ur experience in ur own state, I guess ur IQ has to be tested again..
And it is laughable when some coal dark Tamil brahmins bad mouthing about the fair skined and tall Dalits of North..
Ayya..u dont stand a chance before them...as per genetic traits.. if u apply ur own arguments on urself and urt clan..
RE:RE:Quotas are justifiable
by Harimau Iyer on Apr 14, 2008 06:59 AM
Let us apply some reasoning and inference to your statements.
You say "....as per the statistics published, the OBC students are performing are better than uppper cast students in Tamil universities."
Then what is the need for reservations in Tamil Nadu? You OBCs should be able to take any competitive entrance examination and beat the upper castes, right?
See, right there, there is proof of your inability to think straight and arrive at logical conclusions.
I don't have to make the case that you are stupi; you did it yourself.
RE:Quotas are justifiable
by Your Nemesis on Apr 13, 2008 10:52 AM
Dey Iyerae..enda, enda manatha vangara. Poi thayir saatham saapittu thoonguda. Sunni mavane. Nice fantasy, da. Some 3000 yrs ago, you scukers came into India as nomads, begging for livlihood. not as intellectuals. All your filthy design have long come to light, and so, there are no more takers to your 'intellectual' bullshit. Get ready to get your a$$ wacked. Talking about certificates, all brahms need to be given certs identifying to which dravidian father you were born to. ha ha ha. What shit heads are these brahms, to have landed in a country like India.
UP,BIHAR, MP, RAJASTHAN SHOULD BE DIVIDED INTO A SEPERATE COUNTRY AND CALLED LOWERCASTISTAN OF INDIA... LET ALL THE OTHER SCS AND STS MIGRATE TO LOWERCASTITSTAN OF INDIA. THEN THEY CAN SET UP 1000S OF IIMS AND IITS ..THEY CAN HE 100% RESERVATION
RE:GIVE SCS AND STS ONE HALF OF INDIA AND LET THEM BECOME A SEPERATE COUNTRY
by Your Nemesis on Apr 13, 2008 10:45 AM
Dey, Patti. (correct name choice, btw), India belong to SC/STs and OBCs. all you suckers are just visitors. You are talking about giving them half? Get a life your m'er fker. Soon you brahm scukers will be begging for reservation. ha ha ha.
RE:GIVE SCS AND STS ONE HALF OF INDIA AND LET THEM BECOME A SEPERATE COUNTRY
by Venkat on Apr 13, 2008 09:23 AM
AND THAT WILL BE MERGED IN TO PAKISTAN AFTER FEW YRS....
You seem to defend OBC reservations and say upper castes oppressed you. Can you explain how?
If you are a Dalit, your claims may justified to some extent. Reservations are justified only for discriminated people like Dalits, STs and Widows. Becasue they face certain social hindrances--they are looked down by OBCs and others [But Dalits often say OBCs are harsher than upper caste people]. Similarly Dalits find it difficult to get private accomodation outside the campus. If the private landlords realise they rented their apartment to Dalits, they try to eject them out on some other pretext.
BUT OBCs ARE NOT DISCRIMINATED PEOPLE, AND THEY DON'T DESERVE RESERVATIONS. THEY MUST COMPETE IN THE OPEN.
RE:@Gopal Krishna
by Akia Khan on Apr 13, 2008 08:39 AM
Reservation must be made for economically backward people. Now after this OBC quotas, economically weaker people of our comunity will loose may opportunities. All rich people will get the best out of the lot. Poor people will go without actual benefits, irrespective of casts/relligion.
In todays world, money poer is the might. So you need to get richer. Therefore, these reservations are required to make people equal. This has got no meaning when its based on caste/relligion..... Am sorry if my Muslim brothers get angry on me.
RE:@Gopal Krishna
by DINOSARUS on Apr 13, 2008 08:49 AM
Sometimes it is very difficult to prove who is economically backward. Pariticularly with business people, big farmers, shop owners--who often even if they have millions of rupees income, on the records they show only Rs 10,000 as income. I know one persone son a big Cinama Hall was getting scholarship as Economically Backward Class person.
Nevertheless, I suggest concessions in fees and hostel expenses, free coaching, for ecomonomically backward people rather than reservations.
RE:@Gopal Krishna
by Skype net on Apr 13, 2008 09:10 AM
I agree with both of you, but some new idea can be made.
All tax payers should get some good benefits/subsidies, if they submit properly. There has to be identity no. (like social security no. in USA) and whatever the transation you made, it should be thro this no.
So you are accountable everywhere. When thi system is maintained, everyone scares for going fraud. Fraud people must be punished Severely.
Then nation gets enough money to spen for roads, bridges, dams, welfare of the people etc..
I doubt we haven't yet fully seen the Tamilnadu's anti-GOD agenda, yet. What we are seeing only the tip. Still the rakshas karuna-nidhi of DMK will be living to implement all sorts of funny reservations in Judiciary so that all OBC, SC, ST murderers, rapists, goons can escape from the law. His secret agenda is to create differences between Hindus and thereby bring down hinduism, which let him live for a long time. There's a word that's used for such type of people who cut the tree which gave them shelter and it starts with M.
I only pray GOD to give enough strength and wisdom to all Indians so that the people don't fall into the hands of these funny political leaders hands.
