Hence it is imperative to appreciate 'cultural' aka 'caste' diversity in all temples in India.
Government of India should implement 'reservations' in all Indian temples as per the 'caste' census in India.
1. 52% of all temple staff including Pujaris/Priests should be from OBC communities. 2. 29% temple staff including Pujaris/Priests should be from Dalits and Tribals. 3. Remaining all temple staff including Pujaris/Priests should be from other castes.
RE:India is democracy....and NOT 'meritocracy' like Singapore.
by Harimau Iyer on Apr 14, 2008 10:23 AM
Try putting a Dali priest at the Mariamman Temple near Trichy and watch the riots by the OBCs.
In the 1880s, the Thevars applied to the courts seeking admission to the Meenakshi Temple in Madurai. The High Court in Madras observed that the Thevars have their own temples in their villages to which they deny admission to Dalits and so they have no right to seek entry into the Meenakshi Temple.
After 1937, the Meenakshi Temple is open to everyone, including Dalits but the temples of Thevars are still not open to Dalits!
Ok. Justice is served! All are happy. Well, not all - The upper caste leaches are fuming out of every hole in their body. But do we care? In the matter of reservation as a means to attaining societal equality, no justice is a delayed justice. So, it's time to quickly wrap up the celebrations, and think of the next step.
As everybody agrees, reservation alone will not bring that equality. All societal maladies are due to lack of basic education. Caste system thrives in it. In fact, the very infusion of caste system upon us is to keep the majority away from education. So, caste system and education are inversely proportional.
Hence, the need of the hour is compulsory primary education for the masses. It is also the only solution to eliminate the OBC discrimination of SC/STs. It is true that OBCs want to be treated as equal to upper castes, but don't like to treat SC/STs as their equals. Primary education is the only measure that will diminish this inhibition. It is also the only way to churn up more numbers to fill up the 27% reservation in higher education.
Reservation is seen to be an vote-bank political gimmic. In actuality, not providing compulsory basic education is the dirty politics played by all political parties in India. Because, once the masses get educated, the politicians are the first ones to get affected.
It's time for OBCs to seek compulsory primary education.
The india is dominated by caste system and the upper caste are administering this nation at all level. so they are the real barrier for indias improvement. We should realise that each and everybody participation is required to uplift the india to super power. It is evident now india moving to super power becouse of reservation(all societies participation).
RE:reservation
by srikrishna vempaty on Apr 14, 2008 01:06 AM
You can allow a horse to breed by giving proper atmosphere. But no matter whatever you do, you can not breed a mule. Sorry if it sounds rude but in simple term you can not gain anything from reservation. It has been over 60years that the reservation policy has been going on. Poor people are still poor, perhaps poorer. A farmer dies out of hunger. A SC/ST student has been still struggling to crack IIT with poor score. Whereas a brilliant no-caste student has been denied admission to an ordinary University! This is what the reservation is all about. It is good for no one but the incompetent cowards
RE:reservation
by Your Nemesis on Apr 14, 2008 01:44 AM
Hey, Vempaty, Do you have statistics to prove that reservation has not helped people? Like most other half-baked morons in this forum, you blurt out your conclusion by looking around from your terrace.
All you scukers who feel hurt by reservation will have to remember one thing - reservation is not a magic wand, for it to produce results to your expectations. We are dealing with folks who have not seen daylights for 4000 yrs. Making an SC/ST student get a seat in IIT is not the ultimate objective of reservation policy. If as you said, some so-called low caste student took a seat in an ordinary college, instead of a brilliant student, it shows the reservation system is working. You are looking at one bright student. We are looking at an entire family of the lower caste student and his descendants who will look up to him for progress. Just a common sense question, If somebdoy is really 'brilliant' as you see, can't he prosper in any other way?
Societal progress will not come without discomfort for one or the other. For 4000 yrs, resources have been going to the same communities, on heirarchial basis. Where did your concern for merit go then? Did you look for competetive placements? Did you think about sharing resources?
Mind you, I am a forward caste guy. But I am not hurt the recent events. I am happy that its going to attract students who never hoped to progress.
As for me and my descendants. We won't die. we will prosper someway, using our upper caste 'brillianc
I am disappointed at the verdict of the SC. I would thought they would be wise enough to tell Indians that reservations based on 'castes' should be done with. Now we have some oximorons like 'dalit christians' or 'dalit muslims'. The division perpetuates. This country will NEVER become a super power until we abolish castes and give reservations based on need.
RE:I am disappointed
by mahabodhi on Apr 13, 2008 03:53 PM
You are right we never became super power because we always carried our caste with us !Please set up an example and never write Iyengar along with ur name from now on!
RE:I am disappointed
by srikrishna vempaty on Apr 14, 2008 12:34 AM
you could not even right your name. are you guilty are you scared it is his wish what so ever he writes.
RE:I am disappointed
by ss gpal on Apr 15, 2008 01:27 PM
which morons stand in the queue and beg the government to issue toilet tissue certificate called caste certificate?? Certainly not the forward castes.Its the people from backward and most backward and oBC's who would insist on getting the used toilet tissue certificate called caste certificate. the more its used the better it gets, and then you poor sods cry caste discrimination.Stop asking the government to issue the toilet tissue certificate NOW. Fools. The list of backward caste etc is ever increasing.people are killing each other to get their caste included in the backward list.
RE:I am disappointed
by Your Nemesis on Apr 14, 2008 12:36 AM
The old adage come to my mind - The wolf cries that the sheep is drenching in rain. Here is another wolf that cries about caste inequality.
If casteism is stopping us from becoming a super power, then is 'Iyengar' a honorary doctorate conferred on you by a foreign universtity? What a joke!
Caste doesn't go away by preaching to others, but by individuals shunning their castes. It won't even go away by not using caste names, because casteism is only a mental disease. If ever you are really serious about abolishing caste, it will happen by creating a new generation of Indians, who would not be able to say to which caste they belong to. Inter caste marriages are the only solution. So, when your son or daughter reaches marriage age, make it a thumb rule, to seek alliance only from outside your caste. I am not suggesting to go down right to the bottom of the society. There are prosperous candidates in other castes, equal or better than you, in educational and economical status.
If this suggestion does not appeal to you, then we go back to the adage - The wolf cries...
RE:I am disappointed
by srikrishna vempaty on Apr 14, 2008 01:47 AM
I have a small suggestion. There is other way that this can happen The people from so called oppressed communities who have advanced or achieved development in educational,economical and social levels can say we do not want reservations.we are now forword communities let others from our background take a chance. I think tat this is more apt for the current situation. As you have just mentioned. Even with out seeing the other person you are commenting on his history So who is the wolf now
