RE:Indian Media
by vspi on Sep 13, 2007 11:53 AM
You're completely right, it was Rajdeep Sardesai who had written in bold in TOI (when he was a dy. editor) that Dwaood Ibrahim was very nationalist as he was often seen waving Indian flag during Indo-Pak matches in sharjah during the 80's. Mid-Day's Hindus bashing is well understood as its owned by Khalid Ansari
RE:Indian Media
by bond on Sep 13, 2007 11:50 AM
What is the relativity of the information that you have provided above to Ashfaq's hanging deliberations?I mean no disregard,the information was fruitful but out of context.Are you implying of christianity dominated media rule?Well,we all know what editorializing is, don't we?
Almost since its inception, India has struggled with terrorism, starting from Kashmir and the Northeast.. later Augmented by the Naxals and the Punjab sepratists. Thousands of innocent lives have been lost and no one account for the injury and the loss of property to the citizens. Yet very few terrorists have actually been executed through the legal process Mejority of them being killed in extrajudicial manner. Those executed by the orders of the court include, Maqbool Bat for the abduction and murder of Indian envoy in Britain in 1981, Satwant Singh and Keher singh for killing indira Gandhi and sukhdev Singh and Harjinder Singh for killing general Vaidya. The bottom line is none was executed for killing ordinary persons to create terror.
RE:some stats.
by V S on Sep 13, 2007 11:58 AM
I want balance . If you punish those who wage such acts..then also punish those leaders and members of majority community who indulge in mass scale rioting.
RE:RE:some stats.
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Sep 13, 2007 12:46 PM
You go in the court with all your evidences. You will get justice. Why stop punishement of one criminal?
RE:RE:some stats.
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Sep 13, 2007 12:47 PM
If some criminal is punished, you say there is no justice. Then how justice will be there? By awarding criminals with Bharat Ratna?
We have seen number of cases where muslims are acquited even though they are found guily. 1:Red fort attack case. 2:Parlament attack case 3:Mumbai blasts case 4:Gujarat roits case 5:Kashmir Pandit's case coming to Hyderabad a lot are there and we have Minority netas and also Majority netas who defend culprits only for the sake of votes. 1: Saibab temple blast 2: Birlamandir attack 3: Secundrabad Ganapathi temple blast plan 4: Task force office blast 5: Masjid blast 6: recent blasts at Gokulchat and Lumbini park 7: An IPS was shot by an ISI activist and was relased by A.P govt mercy.
Let the Indian govt adopt the Tuglak laws and name it as Rajiv/Indira act.
RE:Pardon only Muslims even though they found guilty
by V S on Sep 13, 2007 12:01 PM
ya and let go all rioting mobs from majority community and netas because of "want of evidence" or because the commission found them innocent.
RE:Pardon only Muslims even though they found guilty
by bond on Sep 13, 2007 11:57 AM
Mr. Santosh! Please verify your facts before speaking out randomly and ignorantly!Why do you not make a complete list of all the terror attacks that have taken since the bomb was invented and attribute all of them to the muslims?You are a racist and a bigot!Where do you get this information from, Mr. Santosh?Even the muslim perpetrators of these acts have dared to do so only because of their hands being strengthened by the corrupt malpractises of India, by people like you and by people like me.So,please leave race at the door and look in to humans as a whole.If you wish for these pains to vanish,then look hard and deep and reform the governmental protocols in India rather than labelling a race.Which fool does not capitalize on a loophole?And do i need to say how petty minded fundamentalists can be?
RE:Pardon only Muslims even though they found guilty
by SDVS JAGANNADHA RAJU on Sep 13, 2007 12:07 PM
Dont give rubbish logic.If govt was really sincere then by this time there would not be any discussion like this and may be people like will not try to support these rascals in the name of loopholes. DO U WANT TO SAY AS THE LAW HAS LOOPHOLES (PARDONING THE TERRORISTS AS THEY R MUSLIMS)MUSLIMS HAVE THE RIGHT TO ATTACK ANYBODY. Thats why we want to eliminate these rascals without wasting any time and any chance for pardon
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by mukesh mishra on Sep 13, 2007 12:57 PM
ganesha , shiva & ram are baap of muhammod. we have not visuals,it means he look like a ugly man.
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by jayasimha on Sep 13, 2007 11:49 AM
then why are they considered gods? What proof do you have that they existed?
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Sep 13, 2007 02:49 PM
You do all the sins. Jesus will bear all the punishment for them. Yes? If Yes, then this means that Jesus is encouraging sins or crimes.
RE:RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by srihgd on Sep 13, 2007 11:51 AM
i don't understan why jesus had been put into cross??? anybody knows? why? I guess he must be a cruel criminal... but these dumb christians believe him as god... god never do crime like that...
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by Swarup Choudhury on Sep 13, 2007 11:56 AM
right bro, and as u all knw alla or mohammad was a big time thief n criminal, thts why all muslims r criminals, thiefs n idiots
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by Ashok S on Sep 13, 2007 11:51 AM
Show me at least one person who has seen Christ or Mohammed? Guru Nanak is a recent person compared to Christ/Mohammed. Still I bet you cannot really prove that Christ/Mohammed existed. It is more of a belief.
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by V S on Sep 13, 2007 12:00 PM
obviously no living person has seen someone who existed 2000 years ago but there is enough proof of their existence.
Also the scriptures unlike ramayan are not folk story based.
ramayan is full of exagerrations and can be classified as a mythical text.
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by Congressee Chamcha on Sep 13, 2007 12:13 PM
Ramayan is an epic, whereas Quran claimed by Muslim as authority. Ramayan does not compell one to follow its path, but Quran forces itself on the followers. There is no comparison.
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by HImmat Negi on Sep 13, 2007 01:04 PM
This is Hindustan.. only for hindus, get out before you are kicked on your ars out of this country
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by vspi on Sep 13, 2007 11:47 AM
Christ & Guru Nanak's visuals we've seen to believe, but mohammad????
RE:Prove to me that Ram is not a mythical figure
by ravichandran on Sep 13, 2007 11:53 AM
we dont need to prove any thing, the ppl u mentioned were humans and the one u r asking to prove is god
Keep contributing to these blogs, keep critising the 'secular' govts, come the voting day, pack yur bags and go off to the nearest get-a-way and let the minorities select their govt. Just remember folks, the mid-term polls are round the corner, elect BJP, see what progress Modi's Gujurat has made in the past few years and such no terrorist dare get adventurous there. Stop being an arm chair patriot, go out and cast your vote for the party who's heart bleeds when a Hindu dies and not to those who question the basic existance of our faith. Rediff mods pls do not delete this for sake of secularism.
RE:What can we do?
by bond on Sep 13, 2007 12:04 PM
Dear VSPI, As much as I admire your zealousy towards your faith, I wholly feel convulsive to the thought that you seem to think of only fellow hindus.Faith is something that is as blind as the night owl.How can we let that become a hindrance to us looking guilt free in the eye of another human living in the same area but belonging to a different faith?If any person questions the basic existence of your faith,you must feel pity towards him and ask him if he can see the air around him,not feel repulsed or provoked by his ignorance.About Modi's Gujarat, the less said the better.Nobody is an arm chair patriot, you just term them so as to justify your zealous stance towards fellow hindus.Why do you not look upon all humans as a collective entity rather than segregating them in to races, breeds, ethnicities and color?Well, it is your life,lead it the way you wish!
RE:What can we do?
by DV Bhartiya on Sep 13, 2007 12:02 PM
ture vs! i fully agree with you. our so called highly literate peole keep on abusing the system but hardly go to cast their vote and then keep on commenting on blogs for next 5 years. though all the politicians are bad but we should elect the lesser evil and that is BJP
RE:What can we do?
by eshank bahuguna on Sep 13, 2007 12:20 PM
you are no different from a muslim who chooses a person / congress on favouritism. this wont cure the problem.....
RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by piyush bakshi on Sep 13, 2007 11:41 AM
if the majority community carried out riots like u and the muslim appeasers state, you wudnt be here; like there are no hindus in pakistan..
u think if indeed there are riots done by hindus, the mulsims will be able to withstand it?
RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by V S on Sep 13, 2007 11:43 AM
piyush. are you trying to say that only muslims riot ? I don't think so.
hindu fanatacism is just as dangerous and irresponsible as any other religion.
recognize it and shed the "holier than thou" attitude.
RE:RE:RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by Ashok S on Sep 13, 2007 11:48 AM
Hindu fanatacism has come out as a result of muslims attitude only. What do you think? Allow the 10 or 20 % muslims to rule India and apply Jeziya (taxes for non-muslims)???
Common buddy, take a walk in the park! Be grateful to your God that you are born in India.
And for your kind information what you see in RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal is only about 1% of Hindus. If all the Hindus became fanatics (like the Agra incident recently when a mob went on riots), then believe me, no one will be spared! But that is not the case, you know it too. Dont you???
RE:RE:RE:RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by Ali boy on Sep 13, 2007 12:11 PM
Do you have any info on Jiziya Just read about it.....just dont use it as a tool to flare up hate. Jiziya was a tax collected from hindu subjects which was less than the state tax collected from muslim subjects. It was applied only to those who did not want to participate in the state conflicts. It was even less than the zakat tax 2.5% taxes taken from muslims of those times who used to pay both zakat as well as state taxes and also used to participate in any state related wars.
RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Sep 13, 2007 02:55 PM
You are trying to prove that muslims rulers were very kind to Hindu people. This is ridiculous. We know how muslim majority treats hindus. We have seen Kashmir. Do you want that HIndu majority shuld also treat muslims like they tretaed Hndus in Kashmir?
RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by chamda on Sep 13, 2007 11:54 AM
mr.piyush if majority comunity is supportes by laws politics ,&police force let us keep these side i m cinfidentant all majority will not find place to hide actualy police is supporting you otherwise u will never dream of rites in fututre
RE:RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by asadullah usmani on Sep 13, 2007 12:00 PM
The Gujarat riots mainly organisedand cmmitted by some sections of Hindu community with supprt and help from the Modi Goverenment are a well documented (nationally and internationally) event, The supreme court, different, commissions, including, the NHRC and above alll even senior BJP leaders have acknowledged and even accepted the effect of these roits in the defeat of NDA goverenment it heppened not very long ago (Feb, March, App 2002) I;m sure you are literate enough to refer to any of the national dailies for that period. A large number of hindus came forward in condemning the attrocities during these roits committed by their fellow brothren. There are over 200 casses still pending in the courts in one of the cases 13 Hindus have been given life sentence by A court in Mubi (because the suprem court decided that a fair trial was not possiible in Gujarat) for murder and rape of 11 Muslim women and children. If despite all this you want to remain blind and deaf, May God have mercy on you.
RE:RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by jayasimha on Sep 13, 2007 11:54 AM
as per u majority instigates and minorities are victims is it? Did godhra not happen? In all these riots irrespective of religion the innocents suffer! thse stupid causes for riots are hardly worth the loss of life and the mayhem it creates.
RE:RE:RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by V S on Sep 13, 2007 12:05 PM
I think minorities are more vulernable and easily targetted because police and politics is biased towards majority.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by Vijay alias Teesmar Khan on Sep 13, 2007 02:56 PM
Contrary to this politician are more biased towards so-called minority.
RE:Let's also hang those who instigate riots like Narender Modi.
by Ashok S on Sep 13, 2007 11:44 AM
My friend, in that case demand dath sentences for the Congressmen who instigated Anti-Sikh riots.
Instead, the minorities give this as an example of "Hindu terrorists". As if the Hindus planned it because a Hindu (Mrs. Indira Gandhi) was killed???
It shows why the minorities are still backward; they cannot relate oranges to oranges or apples to apples... and thats what exactly the Congress party wants too...a bunch of stupid minorities who keep them voted to power!
they killed civilian and security guards, and what this govt or human rights activists are doing they are begging for the life of terrorists and criminals... this gives a clear picture for terrorists and the provoc others to do such crime you wont get punishment in india eventhough if you been caught...... shame for india
RE:No Value for the life of civilian and security
by iam indian on Sep 13, 2007 11:55 AM
how will u? if it comes to islam then u r ready to kill anyone ?morons.........
RE:No Value for the life of civilian and security
by Aloke Sinha on Sep 13, 2007 11:53 AM
Hanging of this terrorists are the only viable options to create terror in the minds of this terrorists.
What is congress government doing ? making a shariah law ! all muslims criminals are being released ! salman khan being given rajiv gandhi award ! mamohan singh loosing sleep over a muslim person caught in terrorist attempt ! Ram is not considered as God or anything (then why Ramnavmi, Dussehra, Diwali festivals & holidays / why all congress people take blessings from Ram before elections and other thing ?)
