Re: Not impressed
by Vaskar Bhattacharya on Feb 28, 2011 01:39 PM
he is an arranger (we worked as an arranger with illairaja). his works are outcome of mechanical/electronic musical arrangements ... not much soul ... hardly any melody.
i never considered him a path-breaking composer ... like RD Burman / Salil CHoudhury and others ...
strangely hyped and pampered by a certain set of people in the industry.
shankar/ehsan/loy are miles ahead in terms of talent and quality of work.
rehman has greatness thrust upon him. give him a set of acoustic instruments and ask him to create a soulful melody that wud transcend time ... he will come down to his knees.
poor indian music ... has to suffer in the hands of rehman ... any which way there's a wrong global representation. rehman, by any stretch of imagination is not India's best musical ambassador (past, present or future).
Re: Re: Not impressed
by ganapathy raman on Feb 28, 2011 06:40 PM
You are obviosuly that typical "bong" who is trying to sound very intellectual analyzing rahman's music. According to you, the Academy, where every artiste worth his salt, aspires to visit at least once in a lifetime, has no brains. You will never ever get out of your bong "ghetto" will you ? look here buddy, the Academy Awards are the most respected, credible awards show and recongnized worldwide, including ALL developed countries, never mind what someone from from a state as dilapidated as the poorest nations in the world, thinks.
Re: Re: Re: Not impressed
by ganapathy raman on Feb 28, 2011 06:48 PM
of one thing, i am ABSOLUTELY sure. If any bong had been there instead of rahman, you would have been worshipping the Academy !! we were never meant to be one country - period.
Re: Re: Not impressed
by Vaskar Bhattacharya on Feb 28, 2011 01:42 PM
correction ... first line "we" needs to be replaced with "he" ... rehman was an arranger with illairaja of south.
Re: Re: Not impressed
by akv red on Feb 28, 2011 02:11 PM
shankar/ehsan/loy can't stand with AR Rahman, from u r commonds, I found that u got jealous at ARR....U r not deserved to speak about ARR...No need to prove every shit guys like you........he represented indian music to world......Have u seen ever while ARR composing?.....He is using original musical instruments.....He got 2 Oscar, 4 National awards.......from this awards he proved ..he is best....pls don't ciritize him...outside india we can tell I'm an indian because of ARR
Re: Re: Not impressed
by harkol on Feb 28, 2011 02:04 PM
There is no pleasing the sceptics. He has done many works that were sans acoustic instruments. He is a arranger? hmm. RD Burman was panned at his time with similar words for his unusual borrowing of various instruments.
Here ARR's music from Water, hear the 'manmohana' from Jodha Akbar and so many other 'not much instrument' songs, you'll know he is a freak, who can adopt any style.
Oh BTW, what is the different between a Music Director and a composer and a arranger?
It is not as if he copied someone elses tunes and rearranged them! Agreed, he composed them on Electronic instruments, but then the same can be said of Ilayaraja, RD Burman... They all relied on wester 'orchestra'. They themselves didn't do the music like Zakir Hussain or Hariprasad Chaurasia does, and relied on other people (not a computer) to produce the music for them.
Re: Re: Not impressed
by Sunny shaker on Feb 28, 2011 02:01 PM
You are a big JJJJJJ....With Zeroooo authority to question his Talent.....BLLLLSHHHHTTTTT
Re: Re: Not impressed
by harkol on Feb 28, 2011 02:04 PM
There is no pleasing the sceptics. He has done many works that were sans acoustic instruments. He is a arranger? hmm. RD Burman was panned at his time with similar words for his unusual borrowing of various instruments.
Here ARR's music from Water, hear the 'manmohana' from Jodha Akbar and so many other 'not much instrument' songs, you'll know he is a freak, who can adopt any style.
Oh BTW, what is the different between a Music Director and a composer and a arranger?
It is not as if he copied someone elses tunes and rearranged them! Agreed, he composed them on Electronic instruments, but then the same can be said of Ilayaraja, RD Burman... They all relied on wester 'orchestra'. They themselves didn't do the music like Zakir Hussain or Hariprasad Chaurasia does, and relied on other people (not a computer) to produce the music for them.
Re: Re: Not impressed
by arup dey on Mar 09, 2011 05:10 PM
First of all hatts off to you as you are still seems occupied with the V and Bh syndrome derived from the bengla language. People like you bring shame to the highly adaptive bengali community. RD burman is better, this is one thing bengalis seem to know. You seem to say that Shankar ehsan loy are better and you do not provide any details for the same. Please caam aaut off thaa baaanglaaa mode fhaast and thein make jaadgemeents dadabhai. Good laaack!!! From a die hard Rahman fan (His tunes are installed in my system)
Re: Re: Not impressed
by arup dey on Mar 09, 2011 03:46 PM
First of all hatts off to you as you are still seems occupied with the V and Bh syndrome derived from the bengla language. People like you bring shame to the highly adaptive bengali community. RD burman is better, this is one thing bengalis seem to know. You seem to say that Shankar ehsan loy are better and you do not provide any details for the same. Please caam aaut off thaa baaanglaaa mode fhaast and thein make jaadgemeents dadabhai. Good laaack!!! From a die hard Rahman fan (His tunes are installed in my system)
AR rehman is useless fellow. always repeas his old songs,nothing new in his music.have u seen him in new airte Ad, looks like just woke up before adshooting...he is overrated musician in India...
Re: USELESS FELLOW
by harkol on Feb 28, 2011 02:06 PM
If he was of no use, then why would he be paid millions? Shouldn't that be paid to some one more useful like You?
Re: Re: USELESS FELLOW
by S B on Feb 28, 2011 02:22 PM
He is paid does not mean that he is useful. A software engineer on bench is also paid 1 lacs per month. What useful does he do? We Indians elect and endorse ppl like Rahul Gandhi giving no complaint to the pay hike they get to themselves. Are they useful?
Re: USELESS FELLOW
by akv red on Feb 28, 2011 04:28 PM
u r a useless fellow.....prove here how many songs he has copied from old songs????????don't say anything without any prooff......
Getting Nominated for Oscars itself is a biggest achievement as you have been selected among the bestest across the worls. Its not always about the awards that counts in Oscars, its all about your presence and popularity that wins hearts.
A.R. Rahman's actual score for the film 127 hours was really great, and greatly suiting the theme of the movie. But his short performance at the Oscars was below par and far from inspiring, and did not reflect in any way the magic that he had created for the movie.
Sorry he could not make it to the top of grabbing one more Oscar Award. Nevertheless we Indians are proud. He is the 1st to bring Indian music into World Map. A living Legend. Nobody can even come nearer to him. All indian music directors shoudl take a leaf out of him both old & new. He is the 1st Indian music Director to get such accolades abroad.
Australia a country with just 2.3crores population had 7 artists nominated for Oscar. India with 120crores population feel pride for one guy who is just avg in music.
Re: Aus vs Ind
by NAVEEN KOTHAMASU on Feb 28, 2011 01:25 PM
Who gives a damn about Oscar awards anyway? We are happy with our music! We never complained Aussie not being selected for at least once for the Asian Film fare awards.. :P Lol..same is the case with Oscars..it is biased for the western world...
Aussie - 2.3 crores population - Hardly any good programmers/ scientists
Re: Re: Aus vs Ind
by savekarfrombjp on Feb 28, 2011 02:30 PM
dumbass, aus don't have programmer and scientist. typical low iQ ignorant..
check how many noble prize aus won in last 50 years and then comment..
i was s/w engineer worked 10 years before i retired and see both indian, US, UK and aus company but sorry to tell 70% indian IT professional are rubbish.
we finish project in 3 weeks with 2 ppl that indian company take 3 months and need 5 people. why do you think we get 10times more pay?
have you seen aus company made 30-50 products, game software and including google map.
Re: Aus vs Ind
by Bipin Thomas on Feb 28, 2011 01:20 PM
Probably because India herself has a bigger audience and the artists here don't bother much to go out! This is not the case for Australia, as you rightly said. :)
This person does not deserve Oscar. He deserves filmfare only for Saathiya. Others do not stand in front of contemporary better films like Rangeela(Vs DDLJ), RDB(Vs Gangster, Aksar,Fana etc.) Only because of lobbying and stealing tunes from his great Guru Mr. Illyaraja he got some awards.
Re: Re: Does not deserve
by S B on Feb 28, 2011 02:24 PM
This proves the level of ARR and his dirty fans. They cannot judge that he is good(because he is not) and use abusive language.
Re: Re: Does not deserve
by S B on Feb 28, 2011 02:25 PM
This proves the level of ARR and his dirty fans. They cannot judge that he is good(because he is not) and use abusive language.
Re: Does not deserve
by hegdesai on Feb 28, 2011 01:27 PM
I really don't understand why some people are trying to project this man as the only best composer in India. If it's true, in the last 20 years of his career, he should have got all the 20 years' national awards.He got only 4. I think Ilayaraja got 4 or more. Please try to support others too. There are more deserving hands in India, unexposed and unsupported. Please stop even talking about this man.
Re: Re: Does not deserve
by aravind gopalakrishnan on Feb 28, 2011 01:09 PM
We shud be feeling shy to say these kind of shady things and recommending that for a genius like Ilayaraja or RD.Burman..
Re: Does not deserve
by axxo on Feb 28, 2011 04:33 PM
Ilayaraja is no more great. Once i was also supporting him and felt he is greater than rahman. but that days has gone. RAHman is better than ilayaraja now.Ilayaraja most of the songs are same nowadays and had great resemblence to his old music. last 17 years ilayaraja is nowhere. He couldnt overcome rahman after rahman arrival.either he has to be in contemporary music or classical. but he delivered either one
Re: Re: Does not deserve
by aravind gopalakrishnan on Mar 01, 2011 01:45 PM
Mr.Axxo,U have a good imaginary power.But that does not mean ur opinion is correct..He got national award for Pazhassi Raja recently.Now you will tell national awards are a joke.. What about Thiruvasagam ?It is a masterpiece even appreciated by oscar winning music directors.. So better keep quiet.Now watch for Ponniyin Selvan where Ilayaraja is working with Maniratnam..You will understand after listening to that what you missed in the last 20 odd years .. Music has no age.. He may not be doing that many number of movies.. Still people prefer to listen to Dhalapathi,Mouna Raagam,Udhaya Geetham and so on and no to VTV or Shivaji or so..
Re: Does not deserve
by Javeed Ali on Feb 28, 2011 12:11 PM
Ilayaraja tunes? the fact is ilayaraja stealed tunes from ms visvanathan? Rahaman not only a composer he is creator of tunes mind it man.
Re: Re: Does not deserve
by aravind gopalakrishnan on Feb 28, 2011 01:07 PM
Good joke.. Airtel music is from Ilayaraja's song (I am telling about the tune before the current one)..So silence is golden.. Someone told nobody stopped Ilayaraja from lobbying.. Ilayaraja is a vessel with full of contents.. He is a genius and only guys who are not confident or are not tightly talented need this kind of lobbying and marketing.. Ilayaraja does not need any of this ..So better do not shout in agony..
