Anurag Kashyap- one of the best film makers of recent times.. He along with Dibakar Banerjee & Vishal BHardwaj have the capability to make films that are truly diffrent with depths and symbolism that can beat best of International cinema..Why escape from reality??they show the crude true dark reality embedded with brilliant work of art :)
Re: Anurag Kahsyap the face of new age cinema
by arnab bhattacharya on Sep 16, 2010 07:14 PM
Also to add to the fact good work of cinema is generally screened at Toronto film festival so that adds the fact how good the film is (Also Aamir Khan's Dhobi Ghaat will be screened thr)
Re: Re: Anurag Kahsyap the face of new age cinema
by vibhor khandelwal on Sep 17, 2010 11:06 AM
shilu bhaiya is also a very good director..his play won the 6th best prize in school..we all love u shilu bhaiya
Dark Movies are being accepted by audiences world wide. But compared to world wide directors, our directors are not such masters in mixing darkness and subtlety.
Taxi Driver is one of the world's greatest dark movies. It is a brilliant masterpiece. The movie deals with various themes such as racism, prostitution, urbanisation. But all this told are from travis bickle's point of view. He is basically a depressed guy who couldn't come to world's terms. So the director clearly states that he doesn't want to make any explicit movies on sex or violence. Its just cinema.
On other hand, Indian cinema directors have not induced such subtlety in their movies (except ray).
Coming to great literary works, India have boasted only two great literary works, as Ramayana and Mahabharatha. How many people in India have dared to take movies about Karna, the great tragedy character of Mahabharatha.
First let our directors take movies on Karna before making any westernized dark movies.
Re: Understanding cinema.
by rahul on Sep 17, 2010 03:09 AM
omg "taxi driver" on rediff boards,thanks dude , u kept my faith in indian junta ,its one of est mvies ever made in the history of cinema,Scorcese won at cannes for this film ,its dark and superb study of loneliness ,alientaion and wit it can do to one's sanity ,also try to see "kind og comedy" by scorcese only ,(light version of taxi driver but equally hard hitting) and i think ANURAG KASHYAP IS MARTIN SCORCESE of india
Re: Understanding cinema.
by hari on Sep 16, 2010 03:36 PM
yes..gita think about this....in omkara it was ok..but ishqiya ..not needed..these guys no doubt making good cinema..but using same things everytime is not needed.
Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by gittanjali on Sep 16, 2010 03:44 PM
thats why, i think shyam,benega,guru,dutt,bimal,roy,ray, are warriors as they dared to show what they think!
Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by gittanjali on Sep 16, 2010 03:39 PM
If talking of Indian cinema, our directors even having broad vision cannot simply execute it as the audience and the social milieu is not matured enough to understand. They repeat the theme guess by pressure of distributors to give hits. Subtlety I guess is a directors prerogative he has to think if the audience is intelligent enough to understand the meaning. Literary tragic figures sorry to say is still not touched by our indian directors...dont know why..thats why Gandhi,was made by a Brit!!
Re: Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by hari on Sep 16, 2010 03:45 PM
such films are made for niche audience..if you think such films are for rickshawllas ..then thats veda's point...if niche audience cant gather subtle messages..then for whom are you making the movies??? is it not for money from front rows??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by gittanjali on Sep 16, 2010 03:47 PM
again i say its upto the director who thinks he can get away with subtle nuances! But not everyone wants to make movies for populist audience.. in the west we have woody allen, and here mrinal sen,..?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by gittanjali on Sep 16, 2010 03:50 PM
what is art then isn't it to explicity show what is implicity contained???
Re: Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by veda giri on Sep 16, 2010 03:50 PM
I dont know whether our directors are enough intelligent to take movies in india. Look at Mira nair, how intelligent she has become. She has pushed herself to NRI movies, thereby becoming noticed in Hollywood too( Eventhough Shantaram featuring depp and bachchan didnt took off, it was still big thing to get such a movie).
The whole point is Indian audience are still blatant when comes to handling sensitive themes. How many of ray's works are appreciated in India.
If any director wants to prove mettle, he should work in bengali movies or move to Hollywood and make movies about NRIs etc.
Bollywood is a system where money making is the only way to survive. Therefore there is no point in making bolder movies in Bollywood. Director needs to make compromise and finally he is reduced to a puppet masters. So if anurag is serious about making good movies, then he should invest himself in western cinema, rather than making movies in India.
I swear by my opinion, that any director who makes movie on KARNA or relation between Krishna and Karna, or even how Krishna rise to power from chariotter's son, will be first one to break BOLLYWOOD RULES.
THE JOKER LINES: " THE SYSTEM ALLOWS YOU TO BE GOOD AS LONG AS THEY WANTS."
Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by ramen das on Sep 16, 2010 04:00 PM
yes Karna has a lot of scope but u can not say that uless someone makes a movie on him they can not do anything else... Also I think Benegal & now Prakash Jha (although not done very well)have touched the issue...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Understanding cinema.
by ramen das on Sep 16, 2010 04:04 PM
wouldn't say it is dangerous...there was a scope fro gaining sympathy for him... But he was not given enough importance & relegated 2 a supporting role
Re: Re: Re: My point
by JAKE on Sep 16, 2010 03:29 PM
Yeah Gitu, busy with job work, and site is also blocked so cant access Rediff...only late nights at home
Re: Re: Re: My point
by JAKE on Sep 16, 2010 03:28 PM
I am busy with work and hence finding it difficult to blog, site is blocked at office and hence only late nights i can blog at home
too crude depiction is always not needed..see how good old tawaif..has become pros now..remember mujhe,jeene,do...waheeda in raat,bhi,hai,kutch,bheegi,bheegi....???
Re: gita
by gittanjali on Sep 16, 2010 03:25 PM
yes, subtly delivering a message is good! Sunil,dutt,as a daku,in the movie he looks handsome, and the song and the actress..all were great!
all pseudomoral souls protesting Kashyap films here are actually afraid of the reality...don't we have criminals & prostitutes in the society?...why this holier than thou attitude?
& abt making money, what wrong in it? & anyways if ppl like AK wanted 2 make more money they would have made films like KKHH & DDLJ that would have been lapped up by ppl like you who r in majority in India...
Re: all
by veda giri on Sep 16, 2010 03:15 PM
Daily i come across lot of cheats, criminals and prostitutes. Why should i watch same thing on screen. Why directors cant make movies like Color paradise, Children of sorrow, Riding alone for thousand of miles. All the above said movies doesn't have complex themes. Those movies are simple yet powerful movies.
Re: Re: all
by ramen das on Sep 16, 2010 03:57 PM
that is exactly the point... when someone trying to break the shackles of formula is snubbed by people as vulgar..how can u expect them to blossom & reach to the level of international greats?... I'm sure the films u mentioned wouldn't have been made if the directors were born in India...
Re: Re: Re: all
by savio almeida on Sep 17, 2010 01:29 PM
Film should be accepted in our indian culture. Why copy western movies. Film are suppose to entertain and educate and not make business. Kashap want to make porn movies and dilute indian culture. We have oppose such moves.
popular entertainment is not easy to deliver...i will say it is very difficult to make movies like dabangg....gulal's second half was such a letdown...brilliant premise ..but..
Re: gita
by gittanjali on Sep 16, 2010 03:08 PM
Yes, its not easy to make populist cinema, that is why Man,mohan,desai, is the umatched king of masala,films, second is who can you tell me?
