Yet, when an Indian wins an Oscar, so many of our so-called elites drool, rejoice and thump their chests in triumph.
It makes me sick. It is a continuation of the same mentality that the British tried to create during the Raj - brainwashed to hate yourself and love everything foreign.
Come on guys, have some self-respect. If you crave a foreigner's approval so much, you have already become their slave. India will never become a "Super Power" if it continues to look up to the West to derive its own sense of self-worth...
Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US film
by rajesh on Feb 25, 2009 10:58 AM
Hello Ketan,
It is our failure if other nation's citizens don't get ecstatic with award presented by Indian academy.
We should take our awards to the level of OSCAR'S
Our Space Scientist are respected world over, our IT professionals are respected world over....This tells that world is not biased but respects and loves quality products....
Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 11:05 AM
The world is not biased, it is people in our own country who are biased - against themselves - they are not ambitious or confident enough about their own country.
What worries me is that educated Indians are more excited about Indians winning Oscars, but most of these people hardly feel anything when India sends space missions to the moon. How much front-page space did Chandrayaan make?
Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:26 AM
Considering myself to be an educated Indian, i did not get excited about Chandrayan because for me, it's just a space craft going to the space..and that's been done already by Americans, Russians, eons ago. If we were the first, i would've been excited. If my country is doing something new, i would be excited. I do get excited when our cricket team wins a match abroad. :-0 By the way, here is somethign funny for you- Koi... Mil Gaya - won best film award in 2004.Lol. Meanwhile, Million dollar baby won an Oscar for the best film.
Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Britis
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 11:37 AM
Well, what more can I say? Chandrayaan is "just another spacecraft going to space".
Never mind the fact that India is one of the very few countries in the world that has achieved this capability.
Still, this is not important or worthy of pride.
But you feel nothing wrong when emotional tears are shed and hearts burst with pride when an Indian wins an Oscar.
Nothing further to say. I rest my case, and let people draw their own conclusions.
Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:27 AM
Considering myself to be an educated Indian, i did not get excited about Chandrayan because for me, it\'s just a space craft going to the space..and that\'s been done already by Americans, Russians, eons ago. If we were the first, i would\'ve been excited. If my country is doing something new, i would be excited. I do get excited when our cricket team wins a match abroad. :-0 By the way, here is somethign funny for you- Koi... Mil Gaya - won best film award in 2004.Lol. Meanwhile, Million dollar baby won an Oscar for the best film.
Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:26 AM
Considering myself to be an educated Indian, i did not get excited about Chandrayan because for me, it's just a space craft going to the space..and that's been done already by Americans, Russians, eons ago. If we were the first, i would've been excited. If my country is doing something new, i would be excited. I do get excited when our cricket team wins a match abroad. :-0 By the way, here is somethign funny for you- Koi... Mil Gaya - won best film award in 2004.Lol. Meanwhile, Million dollar baby won an Oscar for the best film.
Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US film
by X on Feb 25, 2009 10:56 AM
You are right, Indian awards do not get respect but the fact is the Indian awards do not deserve any respect.
Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 10:59 AM
Why do foreign awards like Oscars deserve any more respect?
Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or
by X on Feb 25, 2009 11:02 AM
Because the process of awarding the Oscars is not corrupt while India can easily qualify as the corruption capital of the world.
Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Britis
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 11:16 AM
Don't be so harsh on yourself. Try to open your eyes. Corruption is everywhere, including USA. There is money, sleaze and politics behind Oscars also.
It is just that Americans are good at hiding their corruption and hiding it behind a facade of glitter, otherwise people would know that American corruption is even behind behind wars in the middle east and civil wars in other countries.
Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or
by S S on Feb 25, 2009 11:10 AM
Simple fact- they are better marketed,
More complex fact- Hollywood movies are more accepted than movies from any other industry therefore an award of Hollywood movies is almost a representation of world movie awards.
Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Britis
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 11:23 AM
That's a debatable point. Hollywood movies are mostly watched in US, Western Europe, and those Asian countries that were once ruled by British.
Hindi movies are very popular in the Middle East and even many Eastern European countries... In fact going by sheer numbers of audience, Indian movies would beat Hollywood movies hands down.
Yet, it seems money, muscle and mind-power works. We are brainwashed into looking upto everything Western.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Br
by Chanchal Nishanth on Feb 25, 2009 01:05 PM
Manu, know the facts first before saying something. Bollywood movies beat Hollywood movies if you count the number audiences viewing the movie.... If you can, plz attend some self-esteem boosting trainings. You badly need one.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Br
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:29 AM
"Indian movies would beat Hollywood movies hands down."
You must be out of your mind considering you've not exemplified your point.
Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US film
by vaibhav pandit on Feb 25, 2009 11:02 AM
we have to because they have set the benchmark for excellence in all the departments..
Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 11:10 AM
Oh really. And how did you arrive at this conclusion? Or I guess it is just another Goebellian truth.
They are the best because they are the best! After all, they are always the best. Right?
Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:18 AM
They have set the benchmark for excellence by making good films over the years. Mr. Ketan, do you even watch films other than the bollywood ones? I would like to know the kind of films(other than indian) you've really liked and also some indian films that you think deserve an award..forget oscar..say..an indian award for best film.
Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Britis
by Ketan Pandya on Feb 25, 2009 11:29 AM
Manu, you are missing my point entirely. I am not talking about which film deserves an award or which one doesn't. In fact, I couldn't care less about these awards.
I am talking about the slavish way in which people react after winning foreign awards. Why not have your own standards rather than following others' standards.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Br
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:36 AM
Set our own standards how? I don't make films neither do you i suppose. We can only set our own standards by making original, realistic films. We've films like Dostana & Ghajini..copies of american films that we've already seen long back. What standards are you talking about? And these remakes also have cliched humor. I mean, what are these directors thinking?Maybe they think, that a huge population of our country doesn't watch english films..which probably is true..as these films & the gay/memory loss concepts are a hit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a Br
by True Muslim on Feb 25, 2009 01:39 PM
It looks like some Indians and some pretending to be indians get great pleasure in licking WHITE as . We should not deprive them of this kind of pleasure. Let the enjoy. Slum dog millionire is another trash movie which actually would have gone to trash in INDIA ( not in west because they love India bashing) had it not been for ARR who gave some dignity to it. So Let Manu t enjoy!!!!!!
Re: Re: If an Indian Film Academy gave awards to a British or US
by True Muslim on Feb 25, 2009 01:29 PM
Films like harry potter etc, just another mindless fantasy. Just imagine same type of films made in hindi and people like MANU T will say , oh waht a "bundal" story. Manu be sincere , your lines are very partisan. Chandrayan went to moon unmanned , that too to the darker part , with absolute control from earth. Even Mr. Obama commented why we cannot do it! hope you have come to senses.
Hello Friends, Iam not against the concept of the movie made.But what more disappointing is this movie truly does not deserve an OSCAR Award!!!. Here are my points about the Slumdog millianiare.
1) The movie was good but 100% doesnot deserve and oscar. There were so many good indian movies which actually deserves an oscar long back! 2) The kids of slumdog milliore done an excellent performance than others in the movie!
3) I wonder what on earth made Frieda pinto feel that she has done wonders in the movie!!!!. I dont understand why british media hyping too much of this movie.
4) The only thing which I liked abt oscars is A R Rahman getting 2 oscars!!!. He truly deserves the oscars much earlier. Onething I was sad is A R Rahman has given much great music earlier than for 'JAI HO' (even he will admit) for eg: "Chayya chayya" from Dil se and All songs of Taal are 1000 times better than 'JAI HO'!
This clearly shows the standards of OSCAR Awards!!
Re: JAI HO-CopyRight Infringement by GULJAR-fm IndianNationalAnth
by rino suren on Feb 25, 2009 11:26 AM
Which part of the world are you from my friend. I think u lack sleep. Wake up tomorrow and you will be fine. God!! People are so jobless that they may anything from sand. No wonder the mentality of our people never change.
The movie has its own beauty. you grow in compassion when u see the movie. What these poor kids go through in life. Can u wonder if few of them become terrorist or gang leader. This movie is biggest education tool for india. We must watch this to learn the hard hitting reaility of india. Then you can know how to solve this problem. If we just ignore it, we will never be able to solve the crime problem in india.
Re: slum dog is eye opener.
by AR Rehman on Feb 25, 2009 11:19 AM
How many days you will remember about this movie? Didnt you see some of the earlier movies which had slum background and how are they suffering?
Re: slumdog
by Raman sSubramanya on Feb 25, 2009 10:41 AM
Hey
You are becoming emotional. Slumdog is not a bad word when you describe poverty !! How will you describe.... Slumgtigers or whatelse???? You should understand english language first before criticisng. These are commomly used words.
Re: slumdog
by krushnaal on Feb 25, 2009 10:49 AM
dude it is a word created from an underdog the boy is from slums so it turned into slumdog bcoz it is not in an vocabulary,everybody misunderstood it. it has nothing to do with dogs
Slumdog has proved we have no dearth of talents and even slum kids can bring Oscars for us than the highly paid heroes like Rajinikanth, Amitabh, Akshay, Shah Rukh, Salman, Hrithik, Aishwarya Rai and others. Why pay these personalities so high when kids can out beat them in all departments. Irfan Khan, Anil Kapoor were brilliant in SM. We have so many such unsung heroes. Producers/Directors of India should unearth such talents and stop encouraging the Superstars till they attain the age of 60 plus, which is what happening at present. Let SM be an eye opener for unearthing new talents.
I had decided to NOT see the movie. However, since it was available in Tata Sky for Rs.25/- in my drawing room, i watched it. I did not think this movie has any stuff that won it an OSCAR!! I am very very happy that A R Rahman and other Indians, who deserved an OSCAR for their many years of service to Indian film Industry won the coveted award. But the movie, it is not worth winning the Oscar. Just brush your memory, there was a movie "Ardha satya" featuring OM PURI in the early 80s!! That is the kind of move, that should have won an OSCAR! Even for that matter, relatively new movie featuring AJAY DEVGAN "GANGAA JAL" is worth an OSCAR. However, as you all agree the crew of these movies were not foreigners!!
Wanted Dan Boyle dead. Shoot and kill him with extreme prejudice which will chill the spine of future nefarious europeans looking for showcasing India's poverty.
Re: $2 million bounty
by rino suren on Feb 25, 2009 11:36 AM
My friend, just outta curiosity! Why is your blood boiling for someone showcasing India's poverty? I dont think there is anything wrong in what he has shown. This is India and we have to digest the fact that the slums are slums and till date it has remained one. My question is, what have you done for the slum people? When was the last time you offered a slum kid a 50 paise coin? Slumdog Millionaire hasnt limelighted the slums in negative but has portrayed a slum boy reaching great heights. I dont think that you would have thought about anything like this even in your wildest dreams. So why shoot and kill some innocent people and go to jail? Instead try doing something positive for your country. Stand and fight against terrorism, crime against women, corruption, etc..etc...there is so much to be done my friend. Stand up and be a true Indian rather than criticizing. Its easy to criticize and difficult to act.
The revelation of the number of people living below the poverty line has increased from 270 million in 2004-’05 when the UPA government assumed office, to 325 million now, should leave the UPA partners, especially the Congress squirming in their seats.
Ironically, it was on the promise of the betterment of the life of the aam aadmi that the alliance came to power in the last elections. With what face will this alliance seek peoples’ votes in the forthcoming elections? Will the Congress party dispute the authenticity of the report prepared by an independent organisation like the Indian Statistical Institute?
Re: Joke is UPA claims victory for Slum dog Oscars
by S S on Feb 25, 2009 10:24 AM
Only Such movies produced by a whiteman depicting indian slums, beggers and such other shameful conditions will qulify for oscars. But will movies made on very rich Indian cultures,traditions, histories win such awards? What way was the great film LAGAN inferior to Slum dog....? We have to get satisfied only by Discovery and Natgeo channels who show these rich cultures of India. And one thing which we should not forget is that all major share of the Credit of OSCAR award goes to many of our great Politicians, Ministers and Govt babus without whose dedicated efforts of selfishness,vested interests, disgusting corruption such conditions of SLUMs, beggers etc would not be possible.
Re: Re: Joke is UPA claims victory for Slum dog Oscars
by shankar mahadevan on Feb 25, 2009 10:31 AM
Lagaan may not be inferior to Slumdog but it was inferior to 'No Mans Land' which won the Oscar.
Lagaan had a number of Hindi commercial songs, which was unrealistic. Lagaan failed on this aspect as Aamir was having an eye on commercial success than baging Oscar by making the movie to look realistic !!! As long as you guys understand this simple truth, you guys will not grumble !!!!
