Show a movie about India's economic growth, urbane crowd, a story about wealthy, educated youngsters that are successful (also a reality in india) - No One will acclaim it at the academy, nor in the western audience.
they will applaud only what they want to see. they want to see india's rotten underbelly (also a reality). India is in charge of slums and poverty to them, not glitz - some other countries own that.
Re: It is a fact -show india as they want to believe and see it.
by INDIAN MAN on Feb 25, 2009 03:50 PM
abe bewakoof,
u know only to critisize anything. i think what shown in the film is too realistic. i am not saying that the one community shown in the roit is as vilen BUT from the individual point of view of the protogenist (HERO) the roits are vilen.
OTHER thing it is a movie shown from ones own view. it is adopted play (based on Q&A) Keep all your idalisam aside and watch the movie, IT IS VERY FAST SHARPLY EDITED PERFECTLY DIRECTED AND CENIMATOGRAPHED MOVIE. i agree rehman had given a lot more and better than this one BUT this is his first recognision on international platform. I am sure his previous work will be appriciated in future. IF U DONT LIKE IT THEN IT SEEMS U DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABT MOVIES.
Let us forget for a moment whether SMD condemns India or not.Its story,performances,music and songs are ordinary,not Oscarworthy,if you want to treat Oscar as worthy.The nominations and rewarding are politically motivated.It is a story of fantacy without any message. There were better entries from India itself before. Now coming to India's pride,the west (including some Indians)wants to enjoy condemning India before it emerges as a super power along with China.The world does not dare to condemn China in the same way as the pseudosecular / pseudointellectual Indians do not dare to condemn Muslims compared to Hindus. Some Indians want to make money out of this.
Re: Slumdog is Western Dog
by Spiderman on Feb 25, 2009 01:01 PM
Be positive. Have courage to accept reality. Unless you tell the doctor about your sickness how he will cure you. Western people are our Doctors......
Re: Slumdog is Western Dog
by Spiderman on Feb 25, 2009 01:01 PM
Be positive. Have courage to accept reality. Unless you tell the doctor about your sickness how he will cure you. Western people are our Doctors......
Re: Slumdog is Western Dog
by Kiran Dey on Feb 25, 2009 01:01 PM
Be positive. Have courage to accept reality. Unless you tell the doctor about your sickness how he will cure you. Western people are our Doctors......
Re: Slumdog is Western Dog
by Raj on Feb 25, 2009 01:02 PM
Be positive. Have courage to accept reality. Unless you tell the doctor about your sickness how he will cure you. Western people are our Doctors......
Re: Re: Slumdog is Western Dog
by XYZ ABC on Feb 25, 2009 01:36 PM
You KirandevRajSpiderman, Do not get down from the tree.Doctors are on the way to treat you.
Re: Can anyone answer why?
by azim Mohd on Feb 25, 2009 11:37 AM
get out of slum mind people. wake up to new morning , live fresh and smile to world, one one side Ambani bros wealth is reality and on other side Slums of Mumbai and Delhi are Historically reality. its a Film, watch it and get over it , why cry now and ponder of nothing. live a Millionaire life.... Jai Ho! Jai HInd
Re: Can anyone answer why?
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:38 AM
How does 'seeing an Indian in a positive light in a foriegn film based on some story' help you to overcome your inner fears?
Re: Re: Can anyone answer why?
by Rishabh Malhotra on Feb 25, 2009 12:45 PM
You didn't answer my question.
The director easily found an excuse to show a white woman as kind and generous in a scene, but every single Indian in the movie is shown as some kind of a monster (when he is not the victim). I can understand why the whites are going ga ga over the movie, but Indian jumping with joy? God help!
Re: Can anyone answer why?
by Spiderman on Feb 25, 2009 11:38 AM
The positive thing is now government in Maharastra is giving flats to kids who work in movie and many intertional non profit organisation are willing to improve the lives of slums in India which our own Government has been reluctent to do in sixty years.
Govenment in India always try to hide many thing which bring bad name for Government but atleast now many lives will change. Though still there is not complete solution to problems of slums in India but at least some attention will be paid and poor people will benefit to some extent.
All the media went ga ga over the runaway success of the film at the oscars. What they have not understood was that the film got so many awards because it was directed and produced by westerners though it was set in Indian backdrop. I doubt whether it would have so many awards had it been produced and directed by an Indian. As for ARR , though I am a great fan of him , I don't think this is his best. He had more superior works to his credit. Our media never gives such wide coverage for our national awards. I don't understand why do we alaways want accolades form the west for whatever we do. Even ARR ( The Hindu) has told that, Anjelina Jolie, Spielberg and Penelope Cruz congratulated him and treated him as their equal. Why should he have this comlex? He is much more talented. Unless we believe that, we are second to none, ae will always have this sort of complex.
Re: Oscar Awards
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:45 AM
"I doubt whether it would have so many awards had it been produced and directed by an Indian." When in doubt- pray!
And it's easy to assume and contemplate and say if this was done..that would've happened!! Blah! I want to know about one Indian film of recent times that deserves an award..or stand along with these other films to get an award. It's like me winning races in my town but when i compete with people from all over the state i'm last of the last.
Re: Oscar Awards
by Spiderman on Feb 25, 2009 11:33 AM
Criticising is very easy. To appreciate great work need great heart. We should work hard to achieve that level of success instead of finding fault with such a great work done by others from foreign countries.
Re: Oscar Awards
by Sajiv Gandhi on Feb 25, 2009 01:58 PM
Do oscar consider indian films? How can they give award to better songs or movies made in India or indian languanges. It is the credit of language than values.
The exhilaration and pride of watching Indian stars led by the distinguished, noted, established film star and director Anil Kapoor lasted just until one saw the movie. Alas, the shame and disgrace projected of this great nation with its rich culture and heritage would put any sane educated Indian citizen to run for cover. For one who has operated for over two decades in the Mumbai International Airport, both as crew and as passenger, it was horrendous feeling deep within to see it being portrayed as an airfield that has kids playing cricket besides the runway with aircraft taking off !! Which airfield in the world does this happen at? Forget human beings, even animal and birds straying on the airstrip are prevented at great costs. Mumbai airport is one of the oldest International airport and has always maintained amongst the highest standards required by world civil aviation agencies. Worse still, the area is shown to have ‘makeshift’ toilets with early morning queue by slum dwellers. All airfields are ‘prohibited areas’ and portraying something that is untrue is not only unethical but in poor taste. The icing on the cake is surely the poor slum dweller who finds himself latched inside the ‘makeshift’ toilet and has to dive into the very pit he was defecating and swim through the sewer lines, melee through the crowd dripping in “muk” to meet his favourite filmstar and idol………only for an autograph that is subsequently pawned by a friend of his for five cents!!! One wonders a
Re: I am unhappy and don’t feel proud of it!
by vaithialingam sivakumar on Feb 25, 2009 11:26 AM
You are 100% right. Poverty of India, Flithy status of social order,Disrespect for Hardwork and moral values are being Exported to Western Media for the crazy people to earn millions of dollars without rectifying the defects in the social system. What is the USE OF Oscars for the Commonman? Explain. I request Rediff to post my comments permanently not to delete this information. I do not bother if you delete my message.
Re: Re: I am unhappy and don’t feel proud of it!
by azim Mohd on Feb 25, 2009 11:42 AM
with a mentality of you people, we will never progress.! you see negativity in everything that is not doen by YOU, may be ur jealous or envious..thats showing in words. shame of people who cannot treat a movie as a movie and are desperate to impose in themself to "Feel Unhappy and humiliation" gr8 for you people feel the worst, if thats ur destiny. but for those who have taken this as a peek in to reality and see light of betterment of life. Jai Ho!!! Jai Hind
Re: Re: I am unhappy and don’t feel proud of it!
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 11:58 AM
Exacly!!!"with a mentality of people like these, we will never progress." Mr. vaithialingam sivakumar wants to know the use of Oscar for a common man. He doesn't understand that Oscars-Academy awards are for acknowledging/appreciating work of the filmmakers(which is a job/profession) from all over the world. It's like Mr vaithialingam sivakumar getting an award in his office for excelling in his field which obviously is not on TV..but if it was..i'm sure everyone would ask the same question as Mr. vaithialingam sivakumar is asking now. But well, Television is an invention. It shows films. Some people got to work in those films so we see something we could relate to and not some black/blue screen.And then when they get appreciated for the work they do..the ceremony takes place in their office which could be termed as the TV!lol. Argh! Am losing the plot. Hope you get my drift. P.S. Mr. vaithialingam sivakumar you also have a chice to not watch the Oscars, not have a TV.
Re: I am unhappy and don’t feel proud of it!
by Spiderman on Feb 25, 2009 11:43 AM
Foreigners are not humiliating you but waking you up to face the reality and find a solution to this problem which is a black mark on the face of our Independence.
Re: I am unhappy and don’t feel proud of it!
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 12:04 PM
story line is hypothetical!! Alright. Who said it was real? Are you stupid?
I watched Xmen yesterday. I'm scared. Do those kind of people actually exist. Maybe they do. I am going to hide!!
Filmmakers have a right to show whatever they want, as long as its within the decency limits (and if its not decent - mark it as X-rated). In Indian films, we so often show white women as very promiscuous, with no values. They have the license to present whatever image of India they want, and its not like they're making stuff up, this is what goes on in India. I personally think Slumdog is a good movie, definitely not worthy of getting 8 oscars, and there are tons of Bollywood movies better, and the only reason its doing so well is because it is exotic for Westerners, and because they need a feel-good movie in a time of economic recession, and depression in the public mood. I couldn't understand a few things in the movie - how Jamal speaks British English, and how they teach the Three Musketeers in government schools.
Re: Filmmakers have a right to show anything
by Manu t on Feb 25, 2009 12:06 PM
That goes on to say that it is JUST A FILM. Slater, you got to watch this hindi film "Koi Mil Gaya". You will question every frame of it. lol.
It won the best film award(indian) a few years back.
Surely this ia not a master piece of ARR, and there are many songs by various music directors equalent and more than this songs. This people experince new that why its been awarded. truly the song is good but i can say there are many more which deserves mre than..... if they started to give than Indian musicians will bag all the oscors for music..........
Re: India has to get all Music oscars
by syed jawahar on Feb 25, 2009 11:01 AM
yes!!. for example.....Chayya Chayya song from DIL SE Movie and songs from Taal, Roja, Bombay!!!! What a great music by A R Rahman in those movies!!. A R Rahman deserves Oscar much much earlier in his life!. It is just that these oscar fools were not listening to his music, its because slumdog is an english movie they watched and got to know abt AR RAHMAN!
Re: Re: India has to get all Music oscars
by joe on Feb 25, 2009 02:21 PM
you forget that the Oscars can only be given to english films. There is no way one deserves an OScar. You cannot win the HIndi filmfare award without scoring the music in a hindi movie
Re: Re: India has to get all Music oscars
by joe on Feb 25, 2009 02:22 PM
you forget that the Oscars can only be given to english films. There is no way one deserves an OScar. You cannot win the HIndi filmfare award without scoring the music in a hindi movie
Re: Re: India has to get all Music oscars
by joe on Feb 25, 2009 02:21 PM
you forget that the Oscars can only be given to english films. There is no way one deserves an OScar. You cannot win the HIndi filmfare award without scoring the music in a hindi movie
