RE:RE:Islam
by Aslam Ansari on Apr 05, 2008 09:41 AM
Given your views, You must be a thorough-bred stupid. You have lived in a shell where your worldview is coloured by the Hindu media. Conflicts are there in every community. But only a handful are responsible, which are less than a percent at every time in every society.
If Pakistan had that much percentage of fundamentalists (as you say), then Jamat-ul-Ulema-e-Pakistan would have been ruling the Country. The fact that they have never been in a position of coming to power demonstrates that fundamentalists are in minority.
However, what is happening in India. We have Hindu fundamentalists ruling the country dictating where a Bihari or persons from UP or other states can't live. Killing innocent people in the name of regionalism is what Mr ????. And, people like Thakreys, Togadias, Uma Bharatis are worse than terrorists as they live under the garb of 'Hindu Fundamentalists' which you will agree to exists in a secular country like India. Allah will muslims but what about those who lives under a deceptive identity. Who will save them ? Ram, Krishna, or, ....
RE:Islam
by sangram bhosale on Apr 05, 2008 10:11 AM
Yes Mr.Aslam. We have Hindu fundamentalists in India. But they are not threat to the world peace or any other country.The rise of the Hindu fundamentalists is in reaction of the Islam extremists. regionalism is another issue.Why are you mixing up two separate issues?because you can't defend the Islam fundamentalists, that's why...?
RE:RE:Islam
by Abbas Rumani on Apr 05, 2008 01:20 PM
Mr. bhosale First of let me make clear that i don't justify any terrorisim. You are saying "The rise of the Hindu fundamentalists is in reaction of the Islam extremists." The current muslim Jihadi culture started from Afghan War. American need people to fight Russain, so they brain washed people by saying fighting Russain is fighting Non Believer which is your duty. It suited them that time. but don't suit now. so it become terrorisim.
However, Afghan war started from 1980, Where as RSS and Shiv Sena both were there much before that. So your above argument is not argument. Fundamentalisim of any religion is wrong. We should not justify any, either it is Muslim or Hindu or christian
RE:Islam
by Rocky on Apr 05, 2008 09:30 AM
you tell you rbhagwan to take care of your religion -
Castism could not be ended since thousands of years - it seems even your gods seems to enjoy the high cast status - Krishna could not end injustice done to the man who had ti cut his thumb to end competiotion - or Ram doesnt seems to be too caring towards dalits - all were kshatiyas and bloody Brahmins who are exploiting Dalits sinnce the inception of Hinduism... Frsl have a look at your own religion then talk about the injustice being done to Muslims -
In the review there has been line, "Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues" I would like to say no movie can say on various issue of islam, if anyone want to know the issues or want to have solution then please read QURAN it had everything.
All the people who like to know islam or even who hate islam please read quran and implement its saying.
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by Prince Roy on Apr 05, 2008 05:09 AM
dude, we see people who say they've read Quran, no one has time to read a text and clarify their doubts. It's up to the muslims to show how their religion preaches peace. Till now, you know what...
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by Taufique on Apr 05, 2008 11:55 AM
Dear Prince !
U are 100 % correct, unfortunately biggest violation of teaching of Islam is done by Muslims only. I appreciate Hindu%u2019s for showing such a level of tolerance for a Muslim community which is far off from there basic teaching. The reason for same can be n numbers but major factor is we r muslim by name only and don know and try to learn what Islam teach and for our all ill and bad deeds Islam get the bad name. n to add a fuel to fire US propaganda make things so real. Coz China and Muslim r the biggest treat to US after breaking of Russia. But if some one recall (Rambo III story) it was only US who create Taliban and Osama to break Russia now there interest is served they want base in Afghanistan to have check on China. Thatz why all this story of War against Terror n all bullshit. N offcourse as per Vatican muslim already surpass the catholic community and became no-1 despite there all missionaries activities and all. Pre 2001 Islam was the fastest growing religion in Europe ( like France , Spain and even in Ameracia etc) . So to put a break to all this, they came up with story is written for WAT. US is gear manager of world coz they are GOD appointed guardian to great nukes and all n even drop on innocent people in Hiroshima. Shame on people who can go to any extent for sake of power contrary to Humanity and mankind the only teaching of all the religion .
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by Suresh Malepati on Apr 05, 2008 02:42 AM
How can you expect people who hate Islam to implement what is written in QURAN....
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by shaikh on Apr 05, 2008 01:04 PM
read it then say
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by sameer deb on Apr 05, 2008 02:52 AM
what good it would serve when after reading quran they find that it teaches that "jews are pigs" or "kill the non believers"?? if u question them then u risk getting assassinated and no one would even dare to come to ur rescue . Face it , if u want to get a solution u have to mix quran with humanity , no religion is or was perfect, you have to continiously adapt to the environment and bring the change. and this has to be( and also 'can') done by the truly educated muslims only not any non muslim
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by Abbas Rumani on Apr 05, 2008 11:50 AM
Mr. Anwar You said "All the people who like to know islam or even who hate islam please read quran and implement its saying" What you should have said is All the people who like to know islam or even who hate islam please read quran, than make your own view"
All these hate and angery between communities is due to bigorty. Instead of say mine is only right if we all start respecting each others faith and ready to make accomodation we INDIAN can easly live in peace.
RE:Khuda Ke Liye is a serious film and worth a watch, especially if you are interested in what Islam has to say on various issues
by anwar ahmed on Apr 05, 2008 09:38 PM
Truely correct people are posting their comments without having correct knowledge. It is truely said, half knowledge is dangerous, see you all can see the comments of various people.
Don't waste much time here so prepare yourself for final day and hereafter, your life is very short world is going to end soon. !!!
The universally accepted ideals which many guys are identifying with west are actually influenced by Islam.Read Two Time Pulitzer Prize winning author's ground breaking New Book God's Crucible-Islam and the Making of Europe-This book explains how Muslim spain's legacy of tolerance and rich heritage of scientific accomplishments shaped Europe. Historian David Levering Lewis challenges the eurocentric historians and the current ludicorous and biased popular perception of Islamic civilization
This is one of Washington Post's publication's review of the book
RE:God's Crucible
by balaord on Apr 05, 2008 01:21 AM
who is Lewis? Author Lewis - Once president of the Society of American Historians and Two time Pulitzer prize winning author and currently a professor of history in Newyork univeristy Link silverdialogues.fas.nyu.edu/page/David_Levering_Lewis
The film saw daylight first in Goa last year at the festival. But before that this film had already been seen in Europe and appreciated. It came late to India partly because it was from Pakistan and nobody wished to take a risk. The Goa screening did not create a stir, but a mere ripple because Goa has hardly any muslim presence. The unfortunate part was that the film scribes did not report on its merits. Seems they did not find an exposed leg to droll. Sub continental films are markers for social comments of their time. K-K-L is very important for us that it financially helps its makers to extend their struggle beyond one film. Its a very brave act in Pakistan. We too have made some good films on this type of theme like Mission Kashmir, Yahaan, Dor, Black and White,to cite a few which look at the human cost of terrorist activities. Our efforts have had more realism, but the masses have not whole heartedly endorsed the films' message. The Paki film requires our endorsement, and we should give it by seeing it on the big screen. An Indo-Pak film exchange will also see many new avenues open for artists in other fields. All Muslims of the Sub Continent are saner brands of the religion because they are mainly from Hindu roots. This also reflects in a common mass emotion best reflected in common reactions to movie stories. Celebrations are therefore in order to welcome a decent film from Pakistan.
RE:God-s Crucible
by balaord on Apr 04, 2008 11:25 PM
who is Lewis? Author Lewis - Once president of the Society of American Historians and Two time Pulitzer prize winning author and currently a professor of history in Newyork univeristy Link silverdialogues.fas.nyu.edu/page/David_Levering_Lewis
The movie is right in most cases, except in case of music. Indian subcontinent's Muslims always try to keep music a "permissible" thing in Islam. The reality is music is in fact HARAAM, no two ways about it. But some leniency is there, in terms of usage of Daff for music, or singing in Eid, etc. and these few exceptions are used to show music is allowed in Islam.
The best thing would still be to try to stay as much away from music as you can, but then people today rarely follow their religion to care as much.
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by salim on Apr 04, 2008 11:29 PM
Please dont make general statements like Music is Harram and all.The scholors differ only with resptect to the instruments not on Music as such.
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by sameer deb on Apr 04, 2008 11:55 PM
one think i dont understand is, have the muslims discovered some new facts about islam like banning music, killing non muslims? i mean during the medieval ages when they ruled India they did not consider these things nor did they annihilated all the hindus. Then what is the reason that some un educated people in afghanistan claim something and the rest of muslim world find it more attractive?
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by Mohd Haris on Apr 05, 2008 01:14 AM
who said anything about killing non muslims? the second biggest sin in Islam is murder, after Kufr(rejection of belief in God).
Killing of any civilian (except in defense) is Haraam. No two ways about it. Afghanistan, pakistan, Algeria, etc. they are not representative of their own religion. Anyone following anythign else is following a religion of his own, not Islam.
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by sameer deb on Apr 05, 2008 02:57 AM
@ mohd haris if u r still there, doesnt quran prescribe to kill any non believer? Dont get me wrong; I m really confused. On the one hand there are people who claims that its legal to kill the non muslims; on the other hand there are people like u.
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by Prince Roy on Apr 05, 2008 05:12 AM
AFAIK, there is law in Islam to give capital punishment to someone who converts to another faith from islam because they've rejected the true religion.
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by mujahid mohammed on Apr 05, 2008 03:25 AM
Dear Sameer, Though ur question was to Mohammed Haris, I would like to answer it for you. No...Quran doesn't prescribe to kill the Non-muslims. I think you have a misconception that Islam was spread by threatening ppl of life, if they didn't embrace it. I would like to tell u that muslims never forced an individual to accept Islam...it was completely his/her will, as muslims know that "faith" from the heart is what matters and not just from words or nodding of head. And I really appreciate that u came forward and asked a question of which u wanted a clear answer...
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by Steve Andrews on Apr 04, 2008 11:50 PM
Muslims are the most boring people of the world, imagine a world without music, beauty, fun, dance and freedom...
..This was not the rigid Islam of our imaginations, but a progressive, sensuous and intellectually curious culture, which has influenced European life in ways that we are only just beginning to understand..
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by on Apr 05, 2008 04:03 AM
This is the difference between muslims and non-muslims. This proves how non-muslims are not good as they predict to be... Then why people can't understand Islam/Muslims are good but other religion people are naming it bad... God forgive them, and save everyone from fire of Hell and show them right path...
