All the abrahmic religions are orginated by a single person and We all know to Err is humanity, therefore we know that these religions are not perfect because they are created and not evolved ( Like Hinduism)
RE:This is all about a Movie
by Biggest B on Apr 05, 2008 10:03 PM
Ok lets talk of an'evolved' hiduism....casteism, untouchability, superstitions, idol worship.....U call that evolved & perfect?
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by kalki on Apr 05, 2008 11:45 PM
where is there no caste? muslims have so many...they even don't marry among other 'castes'...untouchability, superstitions are there in every religion..idol worship is there in islam..y they go to kaba to touch the stone...y is there a cross of christ in church...we are highly evolved that is why we don't enforce our religion on others unlike ur kind of religions...there is class division everywhere...there is worker,there is leader, there are business men...isn't society divided in classes..they oppression is wrong and we do accept that....when will u people accept ur mistakes
RE:This is all about a Movie
by Chosen One on Apr 06, 2008 10:54 AM
Islam is the only religion that liberated mankind from all the bonds of slavery and dependencies.Islam is the only religion that teaches not to discriminate based on colour , creed , tribal identity , financial status , nationality etc , perfectly demonstrated by the beloved prophet pbuh , the mercy on the entire universe.ur allegations are totally false.regarding the stone at kaaba , its just an optional custom to touch or kiss it , no body bows to it or ask anything from the stone like u ignorants , who ask stones , trees, snakes and even private parts of human male.theres a great need for u to introspect and try to know the truth.but u people still want to be ignorant.u cannot force ur religion on others bcos it only takes mankind into the darkness of ignorance , superstitions, pagan practices and makes the life a hell !. and its not the choice of a muslim to whether invite others or not , its the commandment of Allah , the creator of the universe and everything in it , including u and ur idols , the snakes , the trees etc.pls talk to me if ur really serious about religion and knowing what is life and why we are made and why will die and how we will be re-surrected and again and we'll live forever ....
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by extreme on Apr 06, 2008 12:43 AM
everybody is right and seems everyone is in the their onw "talab".. come out experience the sea... see the evolution of life some 25,ooo yrs back the human culture was only hunting and gathering food.. many generations gone in this culture
with the increase in brain size (just like specialisaztion in any organ of any organism), there was increase in intelligence then slowly the cultivation started .. for many centuries this was the cutlture
then started using the brain.. the Qs
1. whats is the sun, whats the moon.. may be they are.. people started considering them God.. Hinduism created in a part of the world for centuries people started practising and beleiving the elders.. imagination to realism.....the beleif...
Then others religions followed based on the opression, suffering, domination of cultures castes and creeds led to creation of other religions.. for many centuries people kept themselves and took religions seriuosly. cos they didnt have anything to do ..
Then starte the age of science.. and the professionalisms... people hardly care of religion and this is continue for next 5 or so generation (in south asia).. we are at a phase.. our coming generation will forget about religion they will discussing only science, technology and jobs.. they will forget what god is.... (cos main reason religion started was for.. to counter violence, and for food)
in future generation we will not be needing these to get food..
as we know how thementality of young generations ch
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by extreme on Apr 06, 2008 12:45 AM
as we know how thementality of young generations changed because of education.. so i meant to say is everything is a phase... dont take seriuosly.. nothing is true and nobody knows .. only truth we can show and have guts to show is evolution is true and there is no difference between mechanism of life between monkey and human,.. exxcept for brain size.. if we see.. we are far lacking in specialization compared to many of the organisms on thsi world. only wonder was brain evoltuion.. dont bring god in this... nobody knows what exactlyhappned.. cool and enjoy the life and dont harm others....
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by imran on Apr 05, 2008 08:50 PM
this is so funny over here on rediff message board. everyone seems to be expert commenting on serious issues without any knowledge..do u even know tht even Adam (pbh) the first man on earth is also a prophet and muslim.. even christains and jews when they followed the prophets in their time are muslims.
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by Chosen One on Apr 06, 2008 10:38 AM
Dear,prophet Issa (jesus) pbuh is one of the prophets of allah , the almighty.he too called mankind to islam.thers's nothing like christianity.the people who called christians today are the deviators.the last and the best of the prophets , Muhammad pbuh , completed the religion and as per the commands of Allah , showed mankind the light of truth and the best way of living a scientific life and showed the world how a just and peaceful soceity can be built. But again its about belief.If somebody doesnot want to accept islam , he or she can make so many excuses and keep onself deprived of living a wonderful life here and here after and prefer hell to heaven.
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by kalki on Apr 05, 2008 11:46 PM
this is y I say islam is political ideology and moma was the greatest politcian :)
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by mohammed baseer ahmed on Apr 05, 2008 07:30 PM
Please my dear friend, It is very good to love your own culture and religion but befor speaking learn about the other religions especially when you are talking about evloved religions. Hindu culture is adapting to situations and times because you people are bold enough to accept that hinduism is not free of short comings. And about islam it is not from any person. It is from one god. The real one. Have guts to prove me wrong. Lets have a healthy debate. If you can keep your arguments in the limits of respectable discussion.
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by kalki on Apr 05, 2008 11:38 PM
C this is the problem...'Have guts to prove me wrong'...wat makes u think it is from god??? if you can prove me wrong I'll say have guts :)
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by Chosen One on Apr 06, 2008 11:35 AM
where r u kalki ? u were talking about guts.I answered u but still u do not talk.come on , i've proved u wrong.
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by Chosen One on Apr 06, 2008 10:31 AM
Allah has challenged mankind to prepare a small verse like that of a verse of quran if possible.All the greatest scholars of the world could not and cannot write.Quran also discusses about the past incidences right from the times of prophet adam ,pbuh.But again its about belief.If somebody doesnot want to accept islam , he or she can make so many excuses and keep onself deprived of living a wonderful life here and here after and prefer hell to heaven.
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by Raman D J on Apr 05, 2008 08:03 PM
I am neither a Hindu nor a Muslim. I find this debate amusing. I believe both religions have their strengths and weaknesses and right thing would be to focus on strengths only and respect all religions.
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by vivek raghavendra on Apr 05, 2008 09:59 PM
Dear Raman,you need to know islam well before making any assumptions,for more referance refer cds of DR Zakir Naik.
this is very sensitive subjects for pakistani & everyone who believes that after 9/11 the total clamity go to change for asian people towards europe consideration. this film touch the soil, everyone who will sufferd from 9/11 crisis.
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by on Apr 06, 2008 01:28 AM
instead of accusing islam i request u to use some common sense and fing what science has to say about islam and quran.better watch zakir naik debate on hinduism and islam.dont feel insecure.your accusation on islam is because of lack of knowledge.
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by Kumar on Apr 05, 2008 05:46 PM
True. Look at the Salafis, Wahabis and Ahle Hadis sects. What greatness they have shown in killing in the name of religion. Fedayeens and Suicide bombers and what not. You have correctly said 'piece' instead of peace. The bombs blow innocents to pieces.
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by extreme on Apr 06, 2008 12:48 AM
why islam and muslims has to alwyas clearify that this is a peaceful religion.. we never have to prove ourselves.. my religion condered to be the most peaceful religion.. people only say.. what they see and hear.. they dont have time to read thick books of religion.. people see the actions.... my dear... now say people are wrong they shld read and understand why they kill people.. wa re wa...
islam means pece.and please stop blaming islam for the behaviour of villains in films to rapist and criminals.some write as if there is only muslims who have ever committed a crime in the whole world.please read history and think with a clear head so that you will see the truth.otherwise all will regress to the uncivilized lot.islam is a beautuful way of life to the faithful.where there is no bloodshed,respect for women and care for elders and duty towards the land one lives.I am proud to be a muslim
RE:those who understand faith with open heart and clear head wont use foul language for bretheren of another faith.
by Ariel Katz on Apr 05, 2008 05:49 PM
Respect for women! What nonsense. Muslim women can be divorced by pronouncements of the word talaq. Women are treated by the men as chattels.
RE:those who understand faith with open heart and clear head wont use foul language for bretheren of another faith.
by imran on Apr 05, 2008 08:56 PM
how much respect do u think women get in so called liberal world today. hve u heard abt the affairs of ex president, NY governr, Detrt mayor..hve u ever been to all these strip clubs where girls r humiliated like animals for few bucks..is tht respect for women!!!
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by Ariel Katz on Apr 05, 2008 09:40 PM
Nobody is taking of prostitutes. It is a social problem. We are taking about followers of Islam, who treat womenfolk as chattels. As a student of Islamic law, I can tell you that the law is misinterpreted rather than rightly interpreted.
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by sajeed hussain on Apr 05, 2008 08:14 PM
want to marry a muslim
washington post ...shows how these great forgotten empirical thinkers of Islam helped lay the foundation for the rise of Europe and the West, and today-s global digital civilization. Whether good or bad, virtually all of today%u2019s science, technology, medicine and all the material benefits that accrue from it has its roots in the empirical method...
RE:Some experts on world history havetalked about uncivilized Islam
by balaord on Apr 05, 2008 02:39 PM
The UK's channel4 -The leading televsion channel of UK say
...Until recently, the era has been glossed over by historians who happily leapt from the fall of the Roman Empire straight to the Renaissance. But it is time for the West to recognize its debt to those Islamic scientists of the past, who forged ahead while Europe stagnated...
