This might be a very good film. But the fact is that a tamil film names "Alzhagiya Tamil Magan" starring Vijay is going to collect twice the amount this film might collect in KERALA itself.
This is the fact. Mallus might scold , abuse tamils in public, But in secret enjoy tamil movies more than malayalam movies.
Otherwise, how would you explain a so-called cheap remake 'chandramukhi' of a so called classic 'manichitratazhu' , run for close to 100 days in kerala and real in profits?
RE:Big deal !!!!
by Rashid on Nov 09, 2007 12:57 AM
adoor's swayamvarm which is made in 1972 is still running in festivals and it will run even after 100 years and that's the power of cinema. Bergman,Kurusova,Satajit ray all are made films which is not bound to time. all serious film lovers will study their films .
Who is going to remember this bullshit ATM after 2 years. A couple of other vijay films will come and you urself propose those films in this forum.
An actor like vijay ad rajini will also be forgotten within the next 20 years ..new heros will come. Coz the success of these actors are merely dependent on the market. But actors like Mohanlal,Mammotty ,Kaml Haasan, om puri will always be remembered and their skills will be seriously analyzed and studied in the film academics because they are the ACTORS...others are just show men.
RE:RE:Big deal !!!!
by Rashid on Nov 16, 2007 11:55 PM
i dint understant what u meant.hope u had gone thru the entire thread. i never said it was a big deal. I was just countering the person's argument. I'm not used to clinge with the languaguage of the film. There are good films coming in many languages . If you can watch it you should. and Tamil and malayalam are sister languages,so it wont be that difficult to comprehend a tamil film for a malayali..strangely vice versa is not happening.
RE:RE:Big deal !!!!
by Narasimhan Srinivasan on Nov 12, 2007 02:06 PM
I disagree Rashid. You see, you are commenting because Rajini's movies are great commercial successes, which probably makes you think that they have no critical acclaim. Sure, a lot of his recent movies revolve around his charisma, but that is more due to the slavery of the story and script writers (more of the script writers.. because no story writer can write or visualize his story into a movie starring Rajini, Kamal or Mammotty/Mohanlal). Rajini for this purpose is completely blameless. Watch movies of Rajini made by Balachander or even S.P.Muthuraman and he also probably acted in movies directed by Balu Mahendra... they are among the best directors in Tamil Cinema. If you go back to his early days... he was doing less of action movies (now that he is plus 60, he seems to have become as agile as a Vijay or Vikram) but strangely that is the opposite now... because in those days he was doing meaningful, vulnerable characters but nowadays, such scripts do not seem to be forthcoming. Of course, someone like Kamal seems more chosy with scripts and has indeed done a variety of roles. Plus, Kamal is also into other aspects of film-making... there in lies the difference. You have to follow the career of an actor... if you do that,, you will not even presume that Rajini is a bad actor.. He may not be perhaps as good as Kamal, but he is STILL a good and competent actor.
RE:Big deal !!!!
by Rashid on Nov 16, 2007 11:40 PM
it's dependant on the perceptions Narasimhan. To fathom the skills of an actor u dont have to wait until he acts in a budhadeb gupta/adoor film. great actors wud always be great even if the films are complete craps. Ofcourse rajni wud have done so many non commercial flicks and I had seen many. But as u urself pointed out he's not as gud as kamal and we consider only those GOOD. shud not be a rocket scientist to measure the depth of an expression dlivered by an actor. Of course I can understand ur love towards rajini. He has proven his worth in one form and he doesn't need any certificates for that. But he wont be considered in the league of good actors of india beause there is a limitation in the range of his acting skills. Even I dont consider Vikram in the great actors list eve if he had won a national award. He has to prove his mettle and he's not an actor with a great caliber. But he's an intelligent actor. There are some actors who are capable to give you goosebumps with just an expression. even low profile actors like Delhi Ganeshan and Manivannan are good actors according to me
RE:Big deal !!!!
by Anand on Nov 06, 2007 11:53 AM
Machu chandramuki was a flop in kerala and let me tell you something exept Vijay and Vikram no one has good market.If good novie comes we will watch...Rajani has no market in kerala.and only few tamil movies ran for 100 days Chinnathambi,Tullatha manavum thullum,Anyan,Thenali,..Pokkiri also shown more than 100 days in trivandram were tamil population is more...
RE:Big deal !!!!
by Narasimhan Srinivasan on Nov 12, 2007 02:00 PM
even if what you say is true, how does it matter. There are not many parts of Kerala (as known to me), except Palakkad and areas South of Trivandrum where there is Tamil speaking populace who can fully appreciate Tamil movies. So Tamil movies not doing so well in Kerala is just like Marathi movies not doing too well in Assam. Sure, Tamil and Malayalam are sister languages, but it does not mean Malayalam movies should be hits in T.N. and vice versa. What stupid argument is this???
RE:RE:Big deal !!!!
by raghu vishnu on Nov 14, 2007 02:01 PM
mr. narasimhan ,ive been looking for u for quiet some time. we had some discussions about manichitrathazhun and chandramuki some time ago. i had psoted my last commenta few days later .i dont think u read it. i was waiting for ur reply.its on the page of ore kadal...meera jasmine
RE:Big deal !!!!
by Abhijith Sreenivas on Nov 08, 2007 11:32 PM
if u dont know dont talk kid...rajni Mannan,Annamalai ,dalapathy,Padayappa,baasha all ran 100 days in kerala Muthu,Ejaman,Pandian,Baba,shivaji,chandramukhi all ran above 50days got huge collection also...
RE:RE:Big deal !!!!
by Rashid on Nov 09, 2007 12:49 AM
You are crazy..rajini has no market in kerala and I didnt know chandramukhi was a hit in kerala. dude, I'm living in kerala and it looks so funny for us when u say so authentically about the collections of the films in kerala. rajni fans associations are famous for over hyping the collection reports.
Just oe pont ..why should you feel that all malayalis should watch chandramukhi..I haven't seen any mallu who has seen chandramukhi and scolding p.vasu for spoiling a classic film.
Well,it's not against rajini.Some of his films are well hits in kerala. But chandramukhi was never a hit.If some mallus have gone for the movie it's only due to the curiosity factoe about manichithrathazhu's remake.
And the 100 days run may be the collective run in the state itself including C-class theaters. Definitely not in single theaters. If that's the case shivaji ganesan's old movies are running in some talkies in palakkad.You can claim that it has run 25 years in kerala and the hugest hit
RE:Big deal !!!!
by KapilRaj Koroth on Nov 06, 2007 03:48 AM
Adoor make realistic movies dear. I watch both, I enjoy both .. depends on my mood. I would recommend you to watch one of adoor's movie ( pick any one ) and then comment. Agreed , It will not make a lot of money because only the class audience would buy a ticket for that movie. And there are not many. But for me, that is real cinema. When Indian Film Industry becomes Universal, Like the hollywood, We will be making movies with Adoor. Because, not too many people (round the globe) will watch a musical entertainer which we produce like the "azhakiya ... whatever ...".
About manichitrathazhu. Go and watch it !!. Thats all I would say.
RE:Big deal !!!!
by raghu vishnu on Nov 14, 2007 01:57 PM
wanted to see how manichitrathazhu would have turned out as a remake. everyone wanted to see for him self/herself becuase manichitrathazhu is everyone's favourite. nad also the tamil laboueres in kerala would have contributed to the numbers
RE:RE:Big deal !!!!
by Rashid on Nov 16, 2007 11:48 PM
chandramukhi was a fop in kerala. But we should not ignore that lots of tamil films are running in packed house . and it wud be wrong if we put all the blame on tamil labours. Lots of malayalees are watching it. Strangely telugu dubbed movies also started getting market in kerala. But dont think that these are because of the quality of the movies.
I dont understand why these tamilians don't watch quality movies from their neighbour state. Atleast somebody should have tried to watch an Adoor film before jumping the gun here
LTTE supporters have started filling in the message board with hatred messages from their filthy mind. Are u guys not Indians? Can't see this kind of Frog in the pond behaviour even from any illiterate in any of the other states in India. Grow up guys
RE:Malayalam Film r the Best
by free mind on Nov 06, 2007 12:53 AM
and all u jokers are queuing behind the remakes - aptamitra / chandramukhi / bhool bhulaiya
RE:Malayalam Film r the Best
by Narasimhan Srinivasan on Nov 12, 2007 02:13 PM
freemind,
again you are presuming that Bollywood or Tamil industry are busy copying Malayalam movies... very wrong!!!! If you watch movies of Shankar, all of them are purely original and I damn care if some of them were copied or remade or dubbed in other languages. At the moment, at least Tamil movies are the ones which are the best technically, in terms of art direction, choreography, photography, action and CAD/CAM sequences etc. I sure would agree, that not all Tamil movies at least are best story-wise, but as in any industry it is only the minority (say around 15-20 out of 100 or even 150 movies) that can be called first rate. But one credit must be given is that whether commercial or otherwise, in Tamil cinema, they are very eager and proud to write themes with purely rural backgrounds. That may appear to many people used to watching the popcorn stuff churned out in Bollywood, to be less fashionable.
RE:RE:Malayalam Film r the Best
by Narasimhan Srinivasan on Nov 12, 2007 02:15 PM
At the same time, it is not improper if a good Malayalam or Hindi or Kannada movie is remade in another language. If Manichithirathazhu was a good movie in Malayalam, then it deserved to be remade in Chandramukhi, though one is free to consider which was the better version. To each his own and according to their respective tastes should be the maxim.
RE:Malayalam Film r the Best
by josh max on Nov 09, 2007 07:53 AM
dudu this aaptamithra which u say here is a kannada movie and sadly no kannada movies ever runs in kerala. so your argument that mallus are queuing behind the remake - aptamitra holds no water. but i feel the kannada verson is second only to the malayalam classic version
taking commercial film requires more talent & hard work instead of this sleepy movies. They can just keep the camera in one place. write dialogues what comes to their mind, because you can escape in shelter of classic & art movies. I will rate commercial movie directors better than these directors who takes only for film festivals. Waste of time. |---Wireless Power---|---Easy Power---| reliancepower.Qom ( delete Q and Put C )
RE: Adoors fil
by Stranger on Nov 06, 2007 08:43 AM
very true. directors like adoor and satyjit ray are geniuses. no doubt about it. but they have an unfair advantage over others. in the sense, no one will expect them to make a profitable movie. they can relax and make a movie with all their ideas. on the other hand, a commercial movie maker has so many restrictions, has to think about what people like and how to sell their movies.
RE:I don't believe in National awards
by SP on Nov 05, 2007 02:30 PM
Are you living in this century or not? You want that all awards should be given to your Karunanidhi (the man doesnt have any Karuna) or Velu or Balu only. The National Award Committee is constituted by the Central Government which is a puppet in the hands of Karunanidhi. He can fill the Award Committee with Tamilians so that you people will get all awards. You people cannt see the India as a whole. You always thinking of your own state and your own people. That is the curse of common people of TN. For you the problem of TN is a national issue. It is very shameful of all Central Ministers from TN to whole Central Government. Nobody is having is not having any agenda than their regional issues. They dont have any permanent stand on any issue. All legends of TN Film Industry such as Mani Ratnam, Kamalahasan, AR Rehman, Ilayaraja are respecting Malayalam Films. You please at least dont divide people by using caste or religon. India should be united.
RE:I don't believe in National awards
by babu rengaraj on Nov 05, 2007 03:38 PM
please don't abuse all the TN people, good and bad people are everywhere, be it in north or south
RE:I don't believe in National awards
by Akshay Kumar on Nov 05, 2007 02:36 PM
He is always here to abuse Malayalees. So there is no point in telling all these to him. He is a 'Frog in the Pond' who doesn't know the world beyond Tamil Nadu.
RE:I don't believe in National awards
by Akshay Kumar on Nov 05, 2007 02:22 PM
u ask your superstar Kamalahasan. He will tell u why Malayalam films are getting more awards based on merit.
RE:I don't believe in National awards
by Stranger on Nov 06, 2007 08:45 AM
sorry friend, Kamal is not a Mallu. He is a Tamilian. born in Paramakkudi, Ramanathapuram. Check ur facts before u reply.
RE:I don't believe in National awards
by Akshay Kumar on Nov 05, 2007 02:41 PM
oh u r still here ! rediff should provide him a permanent page where he can put abusive comments against all Malayalees. It is good that now u realising some of the talented actors and actresses in Tamil are Mallus.
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RE:Another over hyped mallu
by SP on Nov 05, 2007 02:10 PM
What bloody nonsense you want to tell. Why you have stopped in one sentence. It is your leaders are putting axe on the neck of National Integration by cheap regional sentiments.
RE:Another over hyped mallu
by Prasanth Vyas on Nov 05, 2007 11:09 PM
this senthil palani is jihadi terrorist working for pakistan....dividing people...
