The problem is not the kiss but the man. Kissing on cheek that too in public is not a sexual act. Let these morality mongers know it. Have these guys seen award functions and taken objection to the kisses ? Or for that matter have they any say about the vulgarity being shown on tv in the name of remixes which in fact is more than semi-porn and against the sanctity of our culture.
Rakhi Sawant once danced with menial clothes. There were severe protests. Where is she now...mostly seen on all TV channels as a celebrity.
Shilpa is a "buzta diya" so she is just encashing whatever is left in her... When she was in london she exploited her indianism to get sympathy from locals... in India she thought getting kissed by richard was cool thing so she let him do it but he took chance of public presence and exploited her further, she said "thoda zyada hua" because she expected a light kiss on cheek but he took more then that... but because in the first place she let him do it so now she has to defend it by saying that wasn't a big thing...
I remember when nelson mandella had kissed shabana azmi, the Indian mulla's isssued one fatwa against her... shilpa's case is similar to that case and peoples are showing their fanatism on the issue.
RE:SHABAN AZMI
by george yacobu on May 14, 2007 02:55 PM
Kisses are offered to show the love towards a person. It need not be with wrong intentions. Especially foreiners it is a custem and is not a crime.
RE:SHABAN AZMI
by ismail shaik on May 14, 2007 02:48 PM
Yes, it is an individual affair, but it shld not be exposed in public. Though kiss was on cheek but looking very sexy. Actually action should be taken on Hollywood star not on Shelpa. It was also looking forcelly taking kiss. If it is wilful by both, then action shld be taken on both. Bcoz it is India not a foreign country. (Ismailsk)
RE:SHABAN AZMI
by sanjay naik on May 14, 2007 04:02 PM
Hey azmi,why dont you have objection when the same heroine is kissed by other bollywood actors??
RE:SHABAN AZMI
by Check Out on May 14, 2007 03:20 PM
I have not seen any message regarding AIDS awareness which Shilpa and Richards are doing. We should be thankful to Richard that he is devoting some time on AIDS. Tell me guys which is more dengerous AIDS or KISS?
RE:SHABAN AZMI
by Sheetal Kaur on May 14, 2007 03:50 PM
What do you expect from a bunch of lunitics, these are the very people who make India a laughing stock world over.
Its sad that some people misuse a well intended peice of legislation and at the end the people at large suffer. Its been increasingly felt that the PIL has been systematically misused by a section of people either to stop a good work, for buisness expediency or Just plain to get mileage. Many exponents of the PIL business make a fortune by misusing the law. These people which the courts can well identify must be really punish so that the law remains for use of the well intentioned. I hope that the time supreme court will be giving tomorrow must also address the holistic issue of Mischiveous PIL's...
Why nobody objects when these kind of scenes comes in a movie ???????? When Gere kissed shilpa publically all politicians....or so called indian lovers are objecting to this...... why can't they object when these kind of scenes are shown in tv, cinemas to there directors/producers ???????
RE:Gere's Kiss
by Rajesh Iyer on May 14, 2007 01:58 PM
That's because people in India cannot take things that come by surprise. If they are informed that a boy is going to lock his lips with some girl, they will come in huge numbers to watch it. I think Shilpa Shetty should have informed the people about this act. So the amount of people who came for the program would have increased.
This is the double standard nature of we Indians. If a person loves some girl then its fine. But if another boy loves his sister, they go wild.
RE:RE:Gere's Kiss
by on May 14, 2007 02:04 PM
you do whatever, but it should not disturp other people. Even me too agree with shilpa, its very common in Western culture. But as an indian we should not do publicly like this. What is the different between animal and man? If Mr. Gere try to remove Miss. shilpa's dresses, then also she would think its common like Western culture. Be modern but respect our own culture.
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by on May 14, 2007 02:15 PM
where does indian culture go when it comes on movies/serials where does all samajvadi party ....... and all other parties go ? OR they get alive only on these issues and on valentine day......If they object let them object on all the 365 days why only on spl. days ?????
With due respect to all bro's n sisters of India...I would like to say Indians have more 'gandhagi'(bad thoughts) than anyone else.
We say people are vulgar in West, but atleast they don't hide it. While Indians have a 1000 bad thoughts and say nothing. Does that make us good? Richard gere could kiss Shilpa because he is not wrong in his thought or his action. We don't kiss or touch opposite sex scared of losing our purity or feeling others would ridicule us or criticize. What bull**** thinking is this? But tell me friends, isn't our mind full of sexual, disgusting thoughts? What you resist , persists. I just hope we can change our thinking. cheers
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by on May 14, 2007 01:50 PM
To Mr h r,
The next time you make love in front of your kids because you want to reveal every thing you do.If this is not prevented next time Shilpa would make love in public.Their is nothing wrong but why to show it in public let them go in some isolation and do what ever they like. Famous peoples should show some morality because they too should have some social responsibility.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by abhay jadhav on May 14, 2007 01:54 PM
MR. H R its not we Indians have mind full of sexual thoughts. But we look women with self respect. And that's why we oppose such act. Its people like U, which have forgotten our basic ethics and follow the Western trends and give such coments. this shows that Your parents have not given you proper education regarding Indian culture. which is lacking in you by giving such foolish coments on any Indian...
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Amitabha Das on May 14, 2007 02:14 PM
Oye bhai Abhay, thoda study kar le pehle... 'we look women with self respect'. Your views are almost as poor as your sense of language itself. Indians are the biggest customers of internet porn and inspite of our respect for women (self respect in your word...lol) even a little girl passing by gets the whole junta to drool like anything. The cases of harassment of women is among highest in India and you talk about 'self respecting women'... What is Indian culture? Talk about traditions, where prestigious women in Mahabharata like epics got impregnated by multiple men and where the man gambles with his own wife as a bet? Thats our Indian tradition, so dont suddenly try to change and show 'self respect' to women. Your epics says even a bloody hermit masturbated and ejaculated in his 'kamandalu'...some perversion. Look at Kamasutra, sculptures of Khajuraho... thats our tradition... we somehow changed becoz people like u were born who make somments without even knowing the meaning of self respect... Now please shut up if you do have some self respect.
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sanjay Gupta on May 14, 2007 02:22 PM
hr ka bhai amitabh das bhi aa gaya. Since you guys like America dont abuse Indians please. Why dont you go into the grabhic details of the American Society.An american looses his virginity before he touches the age of 12.An average person marries 3 - 4 times.American has the highest number of illegitimate children.Their motto is pretend to be cool and have sex with many.The largest racist country in the world is USA.If you look at their upbringing and Indian upbringing we are a lot better. And yes a richer country doesn't mean a better country.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by h r on May 14, 2007 02:30 PM
gupta ..just read the message by reema parashar. i KNOW what kind of person u r gupta, don't try to hide....
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by h r on May 14, 2007 02:41 PM
i'm hiding? lol, this is funny. Just read the first message u sent...it says' what say people'
Just shows u are not sure about wht u say...and u want others approval. Any man with b*lls wouldn't need others approval. Dude ,if u want to argue ,i can just rip u off. Just try to understand or spare me
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sanjay Gupta on May 14, 2007 02:33 PM
you are hiding mr h r hence you have not mentioned your name in your id.Thats not the case.Rather than pointing fingers look at yourself u american asslicker
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sanjay Gupta on May 14, 2007 02:48 PM
Mr.H R you have everything to hide hence only the initials.The way you posted your message I am sure everbody who has read it would like to meet your relatives.Anyway you are nothing but an American asslicker and that is clearly seen in each of your messages.Keep going you American Born Confused indian
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by h r on May 14, 2007 02:06 PM
Ethics? education? Is touching a woman in public wrong? You know why India has maximum AIDS cases? maximum prostitutuion?...think again. This is not education. This is what happening to India with its education and ethics... By the way what education is it which produces maximum aids patient, prostitues,poverty,corruption. Don't you think there is something wrong with our education n ethics?
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Azharuddin Sajid on May 14, 2007 02:36 PM
Mr. Abhay! what b...s*t u r talking man, no doubt there is self respect for women in some of the parts of India, but don't you see some more vulgar, sexy scenes in movies, serials etc, when there is such scene in the movie, crores of people see that, at that time will u feel the so-called self respect for women, what do you think after seeing Mallika in MURDER..........respect? at that time no one goes to court, and nothing except some fire works here n there. I am neither favouring it nor objecting it, but if it's bad then ban it completely, oppose it completely, why making a mountain of nothing in some cases and enjoying while seeing the other. if gere kissing shilpa was bad, then the people present there shud have beaten gere after that act......grow up dude, if kissing in public is not the tradidtion in India, then why see the same scene in movies,...? why so-called double standards? grow up dude....
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by reema parashar on May 14, 2007 02:08 PM
How respectfully men in India view women is obvious from the messages posted about female anatomy on Rediff message boards..the hate mail that pours against an Aishwarya Rai just because she had had previous relationships. In India, whatever cannot be seen and is done on the sly is permissible but if hold hands on Valentine's Day and a swarm of locusts will descend on you to teach you about bhartiya sabhyata. The first tenet of sabhyata is basic human decency and those who resort to any kind of verbal or physical violence are asabhya to start with. Where does this righteous morality go when children get molested and a Moninder Singh Pandher is not mentioned in the last few CBI charge sheets? Where does this sabhyata go when acid is thrown on women and girls get eve teased in broad day light or baby girls are killed in the womb? In a country where every internet parlour is frequented by porn addicts and crimes against women are spiralling, to hold up Richard Gere as a symbol of westeran corruption is wilfully blind and self-deceptive. We need to do a reality check and put our own home in order first.
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sheetal Kaur on May 14, 2007 04:13 PM
Well said Remma I am with you all the way. The only way I know to teach these EVE teasers is a slap on the face. That is what I learned when I first visited India. While riding in a bus in delhi I was being taunted by some boys, and some others joined in. Enough is enough I though got up and slap this boy who started it all so hard that all my five figures were on his face. He looked at me I just said any one else would like a taste as well. The whole bus went silent after that. I know I was going to leave the country in few days and come back to UK, but I do understand the plight of the girls living in India. If the complain to the authorities again the police will think that it is the girls fault. These people needs to be taught a lesson. What public is doing to Silpa is a mental and visual rape.
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Anusha R on May 14, 2007 02:38 PM
I totally agree with reema..ofcourse, I do understand that respect is commanded by your behaviour, dressing sense, activities, relationships, etc. by certain western-infected women and college girls in our country, who are becoming easy pray to molestation, rape etc. the type of bollywood and other films exhibits crime and sex explicitely to the public, even if you are in the remotest of the village, and awakening the men's sexual urge, which in turn reflects in child molestation, rape etc. everywhere. while a Society/culture is built collectively by men and women, the consequences are always faced by the innocent women folks. It is high time that we educate our children about the (rich?) culture and tradition one needs to follow by giving respect and dignity to every human being who live in our country, thus carrying the high value even if we are outside our country.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by brahman on May 14, 2007 02:47 PM
Reena and Anusha: Shilpa who received the kiss has not objected to Gere and has no complaint, another lady (so called social worker or culture police) files a complaint against Shilpa again a woman. There are umpteem number of different language movies in which the so called society/difnified ladies exhibit their treasures publicly, which is displayed in every theatres and then through cable in your own living room (you see it with your kids beside). there are film awards shows, college festivals, malls and corporate offices, where the womenfolks dress up in indecent way exhibiting almost everything, luring the manhood to capture their attention. If India has a rich culture and tradition, then the so-called culture-police should be concentrating on these day-today things which gets slowly spread in to the young minds and comes out in his activity/action. Half of the crimes against worken could be controlled by not adopting to a western style dressing and adopting a lifestyle which attracts the unwanted attention of a criminal mind.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by reema parashar on May 14, 2007 04:03 PM
By using phrases like,``luring the manhood to capture their attention,'' you are falling into the trap of justifying the unjustifiable. In a country where more than 50 oper cent kids are sexually abused, do you think people with perverted manhood need to be ``lured'' into sexual violence? The culture police is a misnomer, a jobless, mindless thoughtless gaggle of people who can never do anything positive but will attack anything or anyone that goes against their idea of wrong and right.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sanjay Gupta on May 14, 2007 02:41 PM
reema why are you cribbing about India.The courts have given females power to have extramarital relationship if she is not happy.No doubt you would be supporting Shilpa
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by reema parashar on May 14, 2007 04:05 PM
Mr Gupta, am not cribbing against India but against a mentality that overlooks the big pictures and nit picks on trivialities. As for the courts giving women the freedom to have extra marital affairs, what has that to do with the issue am commenting upon?
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by nanda kishore on May 14, 2007 03:39 PM
Hello....reema ji...kindly stop your lecture....I think u r too old lady 3 generations behind from what u just wrote...Moninder singh case was stopped because of corrupt politicians and not because of people's mindset....show me one human in this country who supports the above Singh crime...stop blaming the country and do sth if you could...Is this what your ethics have taught you...Was this how your upbringing was...Go and do a reality check on yourself and what contribution you are doing to the society to help the cause before you comment on sb's home....And y the hell do u blame the whole society because of just one or two percent of the people...there are still people in this country who care abt the culture and the ethics recieved generations ago...
And kindly stop imposing you "narrow-minded" and crooked thoughts to these blogs...you look to me like a vitiate person...
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sheetal Kaur on May 14, 2007 04:19 PM
What reema said is right, What did the public do to get the case restarted, dont the public have a voice. The certainly have one against Shilpa. It seems you just have as big a role to play as these corrupt politicians nanda kishore Remma is right.
RE:RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by reema parashar on May 14, 2007 04:19 PM
Mr Nanda Kishore Ji, your anger is directed at what or whom? Against me? For what? In your vocabulary which am sure is cultured and stamped with good upbringing, you have used words like ``narrow-minded," ``crooked'' and ``vitiate persor (you meant vicious person? Or vitiating person?) against me and in defense of what you think is an attack on your ethics and your culture. Please go through my message once again. As I said before, sabhyata is not the prerogative of an intolerant gang of people who talk of their culture and then defend it with filthy language and violence. As for the Pandher case, am not blaming the ordinary people for the corruption that may just see him get away scot free. Iam saying that in a society where monsters like Pandher exist, to pick on Richard Gere is short-sighted. My contribution to society, Me Nand Kishord ji? Iam a writer with a concience and a mother who is bringing up her son to respect women, regards
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sheetal Kaur on May 14, 2007 03:56 PM
You can see it all in the scluptures on the temples where sex is fully displayed, and does any on say a word about them.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by h r on May 14, 2007 04:34 PM
no sheetal..Indians (all the hypocrites i mean) are good people. They won't say anything about it. They will leave chappals outside the temple and pray to those sculptures. Thats the funny part
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by prasoon chaudhary on May 14, 2007 03:05 PM
Person who got kissed has no problem..person who kissed has no problem..and look who are in problem??? Has shilpa's brother/ mother/ father came to protest..Has Gere's brother/ mother/ father came to protest? Ohh..now plz..dont tell that we r Indian..family etc etc.. A girl walking on street knows how brotherly or caring other people are.
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sanjay Gupta on May 14, 2007 01:42 PM
h r I dont get what you want to say.You mean if Indians meet and they dont kiss their thoughts are vulgar.Americans meet and they kiss theri thoughts are pure.I am sure a lot of people out here would like to meet your relatives.What say everybody
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by ORKUT on May 14, 2007 01:45 PM
may be he wants to express that american hearts are filled with love like what they do in IRaq
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by h r on May 14, 2007 02:01 PM
Gupta u'll never understand what i said cos u don't want to. You are struck up, a stubborn man. You just want to argue. By pathetic Indians ,i meant people like you. The fact is ur head is full of concepts. I'll try to make u understand one more time. A person who shows to the world what he really is, is a bold man. But hypocrites like u , have all the bad thoughts and don't do anything good , but are ready to ridicule others actions. Dimaag ka bulb check karale...agar kaam nahi hua,chunnu bhar paani me doob mar
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by ankita parvatikar on May 14, 2007 02:16 PM
You need not try to teach anybody anything. It is obvious by your writing that you have neither manners, courtesy and basic intelligence. You accuse Gupta of being pathetic. It is the other way around. You are disgustingly pathetic.
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Tony Kumar on May 14, 2007 02:12 PM
Mr. HR u r abosolute correct...! this gupta like guy...is talking like political speach.. he is like "Din me bhaya, Raat me Sayya.."
RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sanjay Gupta on May 14, 2007 02:15 PM
h r I caught you on the wrong foot toh mirchi kyon lagi. Dont try to proclaim yourself a cool man.Be present to the impact it has on children and people alike when all this is shown 100 times on tv. Khud pe bitegi toh asliyat samajh aayegi baaki baatein toh har koi kar sakta hai.
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Sheetal Kaur on May 14, 2007 04:05 PM
Woh jo addhi nagi (chance milla toh puri nagi honne ko taiyar hai) on the TV and Cinemas, what about them no one says a word about them. And the shots that just focus momentrily on the breastas and the knickers no one mentions all that. No body said a word when the first kiss on the screen between IS johar And Sonia Sahni was shown on the screen. Why make so musch fuss about just a peck on the cheek. Just those complainers were not there insted of Richard Gere he did what was normal for his culture and was not to know. It is high time that this topic is dropped. As for HR i understand what you are trying to say you are correct in what you said.
RE:RE:We Indians are patheitc than Americans
by Tony Kumar on May 14, 2007 02:07 PM
A Man i m against what u r saying and what hr is saying is correct, if u will be with one beautiful girl alone in room then will u feel she is ur sis...? don't be sinsiere..that much..1
