Bane of tamilans is christian, muslims and brahmins consider themselves as tamilan - EVR.
Does the movie include this famous statement by the social reformer.
As I understand him, he was against all kinds of oppression, not only by brahmins, but by christians as well as muslims. You shud understand that he never considered brahmins, christians and muslims as tamilians. He was lamenting against non-tamilian in finance ministry as those present were north indian, one muslim, one kerala christian and tamil brahmin.
I hope they include the following items too [WiKiPedia] - - [***IMP***] EVR's comment on Tamil as a "language of barbarians" haunted him later in life. He was a strong proponent of embracing English as the global language and dropping Tamil from academics. To this day, his followers choose to ignore discussions on this topic.
- [***IMP***] He declared Indian independence as a day of slavery and declared it as a day of mourning. He fought for the separation of Tamil areas of India and Sri Lanka and for the human rights of the oppressed Tamil diaspora. He backed colonial rule and attempted to forge an alliance with both Ambedkar and Jinnah.
- [***IMP***] Early in his political life, EVR had derided Tirukkural and an anachronism and a tool for Aryan aggrandisement. At a later point, he embraced it as the true guide and insisted it was a common guide for all religions. When prominent Muslims spoke out and commented that a man-made work, Tirukkural can never equal God-given verses (Qur'an), EVR and his rationalist thought observed silence.
- Periyar created an anti-Brahmin movement in India. Tamil Brahmins (Iyers and Iyengars) were frequently held responsible by followers of Periyar for direct or indirect oppression of lower-caste people on the canard of "Brahmin oppression" and resulted in innumerable hate attacks on Brahmins and which amoung other reasons started a wave of forced mass-migration of the Brahmin population.[14]. Periyar is alleged to have called for "Brahmin killing"s and burning down Brahmin homes. Later, in regards to a DK member's attempt to assassinate Rajagopalachari, he "expressed his abhorrence of violence as a means of settling political differences".[15]The canard of "Brahmin oppression" rationalized conspiracy theories and pointed to Brahmins as enemies against whom the radical movements pitted themselves.[14] The legacy of the anti-Brahmanism of the self-respect movement was taken over by the later Dravidan parties. Growing anti-Brahmanism in Chennai provided a rationale for polarization of the lower castes in the DMK movement.[16] Eventually, the virulent anti-Brahmanism subsided somewhat with the replacement of the DMK party by the AIADMK[17]
- EVR's followers have broken temple icons, cut sacred threads and tufts from brahmin priests, and have often portrayed Brahmins in the most derogatory manner in their meetings and magazines (see http://www.viduthalai.com and http://www.unmaionline.com - both in Tamil language).
- Gandhi did not like his views as he wanted to bring in reforms gradually and spoke of inclusion, not exclusion and hate; Periyar bolted away from the freedom movement.
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 12:47 AM
The so called 'hindu fanatics' of RSS and VHP dont differentiate [and never did in the past] or discriminate the SC or dalits. Its the enlightened pseudo-secular 'hindus' who do that.
Now, British turned the richest and most industrialized country (India in 1700) to the poorest and most illiterate. Many evils that we see today are a manifestation of the poverty and not Hinduism - like you can see that the rich hindus abroad or the IIT/IIM educated hindus never had the problem with 'dalitism' or untouchability.
So, the Periyar (and their 'barbaric' Tamil followers - as described by Pariyar himself) joining hands with British or Muslims is a case of the Tamilians in general and Periyar in particular hsufferring from Stockholm Syndrome!
Dont forget that Brahmins are one of the poorest community in India. Their domination in politics is as much as it is in the auto/taxi unions. Pariyar is a manifestation of "British success Story"
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by Ramachandran K on Mar 31, 2007 04:02 AM
Hi Bhishma, Do you know of Hindu Munnani in TN ?. Its led by a Brahmin. I know about the discriminations followed from a closed angle of the different leadership level & district level.
British ruled India only for 200 years. During British rule southern part of TN, lots of Dravidian people converted to Christianity & they become educated. But 2000 years of brahmin domination; what other community people got?....
As of Hindu Marriage Act, only Brahmins are considered as full Hindu, so you cann't tell all other no brahmins as Hindus.
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 05:38 PM
Pity that when british gave you education, they taught you only to read the bible and very little else. The fact that in this day and age of scientific endeavor, you still keep harping on a dated, over-100 year old unscientific cooked-up aryan-dravidian race theory shows that the british successfull accompished what they set out to do - create a generation of Indians unable to think, rationalize, analyse and evaluate for themselves. What you have instead is a broad section of the Tamilian population calling themselves 'dravidian' (a name synonymous with inferior intellect) that still feeds on what the western missionaries taught them - 'god created the world from adam and eve in 7 days,' and 'if you except christ as saviour, you get to go to heaven!' Wow! Now I'm really impressed by the 'dravidian' intellect!
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by greatrr on Apr 02, 2007 12:16 PM
Who stopped other community people from reading books and going to universities?? Do you mean to say there werent anyone from "other communities" at top positions??
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 10:53 PM
Brahmins were not the rulers for 2000 yrs and every sect had their own priest and tutor. Its a perfect example of distributed governance and living. Now, when the system fell apart after invasions, its only losers like EVR, who lacks the spine to actually fight the invaders, will turn towards teir own fellow men - who are already weak and vulnerable. If you insist on Brahmin domination, then India being the richest and most industrialized community till 1700 is what 'Brahmins' have given to India. The missionary crusaders and the white master's of EVR, first stole tha money, made the poeple illiterates [Macaulay education brought the literacy to 5%], then started a second wave of missionary/crusade activity by blaming your mother culture for all the evils.
Hindu Marriage Act is only from Brahmins? Are you a moron? It is applicable to all the 'Hindu' defined in our constitution including Jains, etc!
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 01:25 AM
- I am giving "country's Point-of-view on Periyar", if you want to call it that way and NOT "Brahmins"!! Besides, even if its "Brahmin's" POV, a reverse discrimination or abuse is a cheap method as well as ideology - not that of 'rationalist' or enlightened.
- When the external threat that caused the problem vanishes, the problem would automaticaly vanish - often within a generation. Sati and Child marriage is case in point here. They disappeared as soon as (with in a gen) the Islamic threat to the common indian disappeared [exceptions dont make rules - so dont start pointing out the exceptions now]. Now look at what Swami Vivekananda has to say about Caste - "These institutions have been necessary to protect us as a nation, and when this necessity for self-preservation will no more exist, they will die a natural death. In religion there is no caste."! Compare this what the self-declared 'rationalist' had to say and you will understand his intellectual calibre. Caste can abandoned overnight by adhering to Arya samaj or other hindu movements - but people dont that because it takes with them a subtle part of their 'preserved' culture. Rather than joining hands with muslims and Britishers, Vivekananda said that economic prosperity along with removal of external threat to our culture [invading forces] will naturally dissolve the caste system. Thats because their need to aggressively 'protect and preserve' their 'local culture' is removed.
- People like Periyar didn't really 'fight' for social justice - he did the same that the current politicians do in the name of 'reservations'. He ensured that their position as a passionate group is consolidated - only to dispense that anger against the closest relatives - other hindus. Ask them to fight against the invading proseletizers or Jihadis? They will quickly seek the protection of the same hand that have been biting.
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by Ramachandran K on Mar 31, 2007 03:53 AM
Hi Bhishma, You are just giving your point of view on Periyar. Don't tell you are giving "Country's Point-of-View". Since you are talking of social justice in India. Can you please tell me how many percentage of Brahmins, OBCs, SCs are India ? and how many percentage of them in each caste in big positions in India ?. Since you talking of external threat like from Muslims & Christians; What about the Aryan invasion of Dravidians some thousand year back ?.
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by Bhishma on Apr 01, 2007 12:02 PM
- The "Country's Point-of-View" came into picture because some accused me of giving "Brahmin's point of view"!
- Regarding %ages - Virtually no brahmin is ruling any state. Now if you are worried that Brahmins are getting in civil services inspite of reservations ... then you are simply a crook not worthy of a responce.
- Aryan Invasion? Ask your white masters and update your knowledge. They all already evolved into Aryan Migration and are currently debting "Out of India Theory"! Well that requires lot of intelligence which clearly is lacking in the followers of 'rationalist' traitor!
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 03:14 AM
Hey Vijay Kumar, the dalits are still denied entry into temples by the very communities that MK and his goons belong to. They are still denied entry into main churches in TN and prevented from becoming bishops and priests in churches. Nothing has changed for them, because the guys who actually discriminate against them are from the communities of the ruling party - the so-called DMK. What a joker. No wonder they call the Tamilian the dimwits of India. No wonder EVR thought the same.
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by Ramachandran K on Mar 31, 2007 03:31 AM
Hi Guys, Lets explain the ideology of Periyar, Dravidians. Don't talk of the politicians ( Anna, MGR or MK)...who made money of it.... I had seen Wikipedia..for Periyar...and some Brahmin fanatic had mentioned that, Periyar had encouraged people rape brahmin women!!! Very bad propaganda.
You people know the ideology behind Periyar & then talk X & Y. First try to know..what is a DRAVIDIAN ? then talk of Tamilian, Kerala..Kannadiga.....
All our Dravidian races are Slaved by the Religious Ideologies of Brahmins...thats the Truth!
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 03:46 PM
Ramachandran - first of all, there is nothing like a dravidian race. Get your scientific facts straight, instead of living in your own imginary world. With total ignorance such as yours, its no wonder that many throughout India, including other souther states, feel that this so-called tamilian 'dravida' falls low on the evolutionary scale. Don't make a fool of yourselve with your cock-n-bull racist theories that have no scientific validity or endorsement.
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by venkat on Apr 02, 2007 11:17 AM
Hello Sir, Please answer these questions Did Periyar said Tamil is a Barbarian Langauge? Did Periyar attacked brahmins and cut their sacred threads? With the kandadevi temple issue, who is refusing dalits' rights to enter temple? OBC (Thevars) or Brahmins?
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by Pyma on Apr 02, 2007 11:53 AM
I really think that this Vas Guy is some sort of a morron who has some deep issues with tamil speaking people... Boss cool off... and i really think u re wasting everybody's time... May be u re some kind of jerk doin nuthin in office and just browsin rediff all day long..
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by Vas on Apr 02, 2007 01:36 PM
So What are YOU doing on the Rediff forum? Unenmployed and waiting for deliverance from some Tamil 'dravida' to hand you job on a silver platter?
Moron, I have all the time I want to spend on Rediff or anyother 'iffs' because I, unlike 'tamil dravida' scroungers like yourself, have made my wealth and fortune without any reservation or special priveleges, and now can do what I please with my life, even if that means spending time putting scroungers like you in their place.
So go jump off a fence with envy! (oh that's right, I forgot - your idea of dealing with competition is 'stealing' the fruits of someone's else hard work, labor and success!) Its no wonder you OBC tamil 'dravidas' never find success anywhere else outside your own state!
p.s: I don't have issues with all Tamil speaking people, only with tamil 'dravidas.'
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by Pyma on Apr 02, 2007 03:11 PM
Man!!! ure the sort of guys which india doesn't need off... JackAss's like u re the ones who create all the problems by dividing people on caste/creed/color... we can even forgive all the relegious parties & fanatics... but guys like u re the unseen viruses getting in to the society and spoil everybody ... i sincerely hope that u re not in some managerial position in ure company... if u re in it... damn sure that u will screw ureself and other lives also...
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by Pyma on Apr 02, 2007 03:42 PM
Well Said Pyma.... These type of psychos re the real problems.... i really pity u when u say " ts no wonder you OBC tamil 'dravidas' never find success anywhere else outside your own state! " it really shows that u re a loser in all fronts....hope u get ure facts right...
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by Vas on Apr 02, 2007 08:53 PM
Ha...ha...ha...The guy PYMA says "well said PYMA" to himself. PYMA, is that your one split personality congratulating your other personality?
By the way, how come there is a 'report abuse disabled by the moderator' on your comment box, PYMA? You wouldn't happen to be THE moderator, would you PYMA? Pray tell us, PYMA!
If you can't argue cogently (look up the word in the dictionary), don't sound off along with your split personality. And stop talking to yourself, and agreeing with yourself. You scare people when you talk to yourself.
Now all of sudden, you and your kind can live with people of all communities? When did that happen? Maybe after a few people like me decided to come after the likes of you!
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by Pyma on Apr 03, 2007 10:10 AM
Brother!! u might be some scumback out of college and working as a trainee in some useless organisation who has all the time in this world to comment on tamils/dravidians ... If really think u re some sort of the crap kannidaga eunics...who have such deep hatred to all other people of india...having their own flag and colors... lastly u re a disgrace to this society man!!! so have a cutting and take a break... hope u go in to the dream world and stay in peace there....
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by Vasantgopal on Mar 31, 2007 01:38 AM
Periyar did not want people to go to temples. He garlanded idols with chappals. So why would he fight for entry of dalits into temples. You are eithering creating history or else confusing Narayana Guru with EVR!
(BTW, EVR did not have any particular love for dalits. The dalits are still treated badly by thevars, mudaliars, chettiars etc.)
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by on Mar 30, 2007 11:37 PM
I think you are a Brahmin ( iyer/Iyengar). Brahmins are not even 1% of indian population & they salve the indians in the name of religion for the last 2000 years; So Periyar want to make Indians(INDIANS; not migrated birds from Central Asia) Independent from the 2000 years of Slavary.
Just see India from all level; you will know how many positions the brahmins hold in administration/education and everything. Periyar is only person; who tried to tell the real truth.
Now-a-days some brahmins who went for the dollars in USA (Chicago); doing propaganda against Periyar Ideology. If Periyar woudn't been their; Tamil Nadu wouldn't have been grown this much; It would have been controled by some religious monks.
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 03:11 AM
What a dimwit you are - another reason why EVR held great contempt for the tamilian in general and the tamil language (considering that he was not a tamilian himself, but felt that Tamilins were bunch of barbarians and idiots that deserved contempt). You thnk that it was following EVR's strategy of hate and vicious agenda that enabled Tamil Nadu to progress? What a moron you are. On the contrary, it was the intellectual elitist that contributed to the growth of TN and its image as the brain of India - not gutter-rats like MK (who earn the contempt and disgust of the rest of the nation and contribute to the image of Tamilians as bunch of crude barbarians who can't even wipe their own asses).
It was MGR, with his policy of respect for all communities, including brahmins, and low anti-brahmin stand, that substantially contributed to TN's development. The MK and his goons have been instumental in bringing down TN - with wide-scale corruption, immorality, criminal and anti-social activities.
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 05:28 PM
Tamil Arasan - Periyar came to TN and settled there, not because he loved the people and state, but it was the place where he could best foster and nurture his anti-hinduism ideas and implement them, given that the Tamilians were intellectually below-average people and were unable to think and rationalize for themsleves and showed tendency to blindly follow their leaders. His own home state of AP would not have allowed him to launch his violent anti-hindu movement, whereas TN was already in the clutches of white missionaries and was the perfect place for his anti-hinduism stance. Hence his shift to there! Got it?? Or do you need some white guy missionary to explain this to you?
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by venkat on Apr 02, 2007 11:09 AM
periyar definitely said that Tamil is barbarian langauge. There are sufficient records to prove that. His intentions to uplift downtrodden was right but not the method he employed. BTW, I don't think that he did anyting for dalits. He did favours only for BC, OBC.
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 10:43 PM
"The contempt for Tamil language" is well documented. Closing your eyes to it will not wish that away. He did think Tamil is a barbaric language - well he has to communicate in their language to 'civilize them' and make them learn Her Majesty's language, English. How else can these 'barbarians' be 'civilized'?
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 03:55 PM
First of all, Tamil Arasan - you assume that just because I have contempt for the likes of you, that I am a brahmin. I am not, but I'm a souhterner and I DON'T identify with low lives like yourself and your imaginary race called the tamil 'dravida.' I've met too many 'dravida' clowns like you who cannot excell in anything outside of TN, because of their incompetence and ignorance. They hold a paper degree, but make very little contributions. You are unfit for life anywhere in this world, other than your cozy protected state of TN, where even the most incompetent moron is given a job because he belongs to a certain caste group.
By the way, much of the atrocities comitted against the dalits and SCs in TN are by the OBCs, primarily from MK's community. I pity the dalits, but NOT the likes of you! You deserve the boot camps where you are mercilessly worked until you drop down with exhausation.
The fact that you don't even know what EVR felt about Tamil language shows your lack of intellectual capabilty and poor education (shows how easy it to get a degree in TN with the reservations, but not knowledge).
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by Tamil Arasan on Mar 31, 2007 11:34 PM
Hey Vas baby! U seem 2 know all about Boot Camps. Maybe your brothers & sisters who ran away to the USA told you about them.They must also have told u that these camps are run so they can make the poor afro-americans " come around" & serve their white masters all the time. Just like U expect every dalit & OBC 2 serve U for life just because U belong 2 some so called forward caste. Your brothers & sisters who r serving the white man there(USA) don't seem 2 have any problems with his religion. I dunno why !!!!
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by Tamil Arasan on Mar 31, 2007 08:14 AM
The only contribution of the MGR reign was the noon meal scheme. With that he managed to pull on for a couple of terms! He also had the full backing of the brahmin lobby who were terrified that the DMK would come back to power and expose them. So this non performer is stated to have contributed to TN. What a laugh! MK's rule has put TN firmly on the world map to the utter dismay of the brahmin lobby.
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by venkat on Apr 02, 2007 11:08 AM
You are right. MGR slowed down the community based hatred and made TN look good. He is definitely better than MK, Jaya..
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by greatrr on Apr 02, 2007 12:21 PM
What kind of slavery are you talking about?? Nobody stopped you from getting smarter. If brahmins hold top positions - just shows they are more competitive. Why would people depends on reservation these days - just the fear factor of losing jobs & to cover their incompetitive nature!! dont find lame reasons for non-performance. Nobody stops u from getting to US or elsewhere if u were capable.
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by Sreekanth Nemani on Mar 31, 2007 06:25 AM
"Brahmins" did not come from central asia!! On the other hand the indians living on the banks of saraswati migrated towards central asia (iran etc) and then europe, because saraswati dried up due to continuous droughts...
the whole 'aryan' theory is british myth used to keep indians as slaves!! wake up!!
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by AlarmedAquarian on Mar 31, 2007 08:55 AM
What a comedy it is to read hard core RSS hate specialists like bharathi write about intolerance. These guys are practising it all the time but accuse others of doing it.Every time the aryan theory is discussed these guys get very very nervous.Why. Because then they can't accuse sonia gandhi of being a foreigner as these guys were the earliest foreigners settled in india . They maybe even asked to go back.
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 04:06 PM
Alarmed Aquarian:
There is no scientific basis for the aryan theory, other than the fact that it was cooked up by the whites and fed to the uneducated populations of India - particularly in TN. The fact that you support that theory shows your blind and total obedience to the white skin. If the whites were once again to pronounce that the earth is flat, you and your kind will bow down to that with utmost respect and accept the verdict blindly. What a joker, and an embarrassment to the rest of India.
You can't even read and research things on your own when in doubt, but relies totally on white missionaries to feed you junk. Its no wonder that the white missionaries thought that you guys are inferior and in need of 'civilizing.' And boy, did they (white missionaries) have a fun time feeding you gullible souls complete crap!
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by AlarmedAquarian on Mar 31, 2007 11:46 PM
Mr Vas.I strongly object you portraying anybody oppossing you as christian.You RSS jokers are an embrassement to the rest of the hindus.You cunningly brand everybody speaking against you as christian giving the rest of the hindus the idea that only christians oppose your caste system. Guys the ones who are dead against you are hindus & rationalists who feel ' Enough is enough' We now want you brahmin guys off our backs .As for inferiority now that all backward castes are educated you guys are made to look stupid & disoriented! So along with the rest, you guys please Get Lost.
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by Vas on Apr 01, 2007 06:48 PM
Who cares about your objections, dimwit! The same way, you don't care about anyone else's point of view, especially views backed up by recent scientific studies.
If you want people to respect you - you have to earn it. Start by arguing with logic, not by emotional ranting. The very fact in this day and age, you still quote Aryan-dravidian theories, even when many westen scientists themselves have questioned its credability (except for that handful of white racist christian groups, converted Indian christians who blindly follow the whites, and dark-skinned Indians with inferiority complex) who love to believe that the whites are the ones who gave birth to every advanced civilization on this planet) exposes your own ignorance and low intellegence. And yet, you want people to RESPECT you??
Get real - in ths day of information technology, there is NO excuse for ignorance and stupidty. Holding on to 100 year old 'theory' that never had any scientific basis in the first place and was entirely proposed by christian missionaries, and you call yourself educated? Bah!
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 01:02 AM
- To start with I am not even from TN! Not sure if I should for once agree with Periyar in his description about Tamil as barbaric - their followers certainly seem to support that theory!
- Nice points with little historical truth. Its Periyar's "White master's" who proposed the (now known) BOGUS Aryan 'migrated bird' theory - which he and his followers gladly accepted. That he is not patriotic to his language or country or religion (as he abused ALL) is a known fact. Tell me if that is 'liberating' from slavery!! Further, He joined hands with the enemy of his language/religion/country - NOW THAT certainly IS THE sign of slavery!!
Rationalist? Vivekananda and JK are by all standards more rationalists than 'Periyar'! The first symptom of 'rationalism' is understanding that every system has its weakness and the objective is to strengthen the system by identifying the weak points and eliminating them. "Teach the men the strength with themselves" - is the call of Swami Vivekananda! Self abuse is a disease - not a cure.
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by Vasantgopal on Mar 31, 2007 01:33 AM
The definition of 'rationalist' in TN/ India is one who is anti-hindu. Just like secular means anti-hindu. So by that definition MK, EVR and all the communists including N.Ram of 'The Hindu' are all rationalists! Which is why Bharathiar, Swami Vivekananda and others like them are all left out...
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by Tamil Arasan on Mar 31, 2007 08:19 AM
THe Aryan migration theory has been accepted by every body in the world except the RSS & its fringe outfits. These outfits are not the world!
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 10:35 PM
Thanks to display your encyclopedic ignorance. Aryan Invasion Theory was proposed by EVR's white masters and the theoy is long busted.
Ages ago his masters improved their version from 'Aryan INVASION' to 'Aryan MIGRATION'! Currently even the genetic and every archeological evidence suggests that Migration/Invasion, if at all, happened FROM India to other parts of the world and NOT the other way round. Atleast up date your knowledge and keep yourself in tune with your master's [EVR] master.
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by Srikumar Bala on Mar 31, 2007 12:33 AM
Both of you have expressed only a pinch of truth from each side. Periyar as any other leader had his own good and bad days.
It's always good to talk the better things a human being has provided to this world.
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by on Mar 31, 2007 02:29 AM
How about you first go to school and get some good educated sense (Padiparivu) before you get Common sense? Divisionism has been our bane. Be it north south or religion based or caste based. By prying old woulds we will never let them heal.
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by Vasantgopal on Mar 31, 2007 01:24 AM
EVR was not a tamilian but a kannadiga, so his aversion to Tamil is understandable. And also Tamilians like to follow non-tamils and have mistrust amongst themselves. EVR had some shades of good intentions but in his constant hatred of brahmins he forgot that other upper castes were also guilty of the same crimes. Therefore, as a result while brahmins were banished, the dalits continue to rot (ask the dalits who suffer from the two-tumbler system in south TN even as followers of EVR rule the state) while the OBCs continued to torment everyone. And I not even commenting on his personal life, EVR married a girl who was 1/3rd his age, to take her as his third wife. That set a bad precedence in TN of all political and star personalities indulging in polygamy and the society turning a blind eye. The only true leaders of TN has produced are C.N.Annadurai and Kamraj. No wonder these two are noncontroversial and have brought about everlasting changes that catapulted TN into a leading state of the nation.
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by Bhishma on Mar 31, 2007 01:31 AM
Vasantgopal, Thats a very reasonable post. You have come up with some good points. Not just Tamilians, even Keralites need to wake up and come out of anti-hindu and pro MMM (Mullah-Missionary-Marxist) mind set!
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by Bhishma on Apr 01, 2007 11:54 AM
That Is My Invention ;) I started using it few years ago. I want that acronym to pick up. All the 3 are totalitarian and exclusivist ideologies that are harmful for any human society and so they need to be eliminated. period.
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by on Mar 31, 2007 02:50 AM
Hey... Leave us malloos out of your complex caste equations.. We are pro "Manushya" and I can see that nobody likes it because none of the RSS VHP types arent able to get a foot hold in Gods own country...
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by Vas on Mar 31, 2007 05:43 PM
''Leave us malloos out of your complex caste equations. We are pro "Manushya" and I can see that nobody likes it because none of the RSS VHP types arent able to get a foot hold in Gods own country"
Thats because 'Jesus' and 'Karl Marx' have already got a foothold into the state and turned everyone into Zombies, fit only for following the white missionaries dictum, and that too only very simple and basic instructions like, 'sit,' 'stand' 'jump' 'eat!'
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by venkat on Apr 02, 2007 11:06 AM
Can't agree.. May be that happened (brahmin abusing dalits) about 70 years ago. Example is kandadevi temple issue where Thevars (OBC) have humiliated Dalits. Today's TN BC, OBCs are the guys who torture dalits..
