All of this is not AB or Mr Chopras fault...We pay them millions for something like acting which even Jr Bachhan can do... We worship our stars like heros...We pay hundreds of rupees to watch their movies becuause our own lives are dull...Recently I heard SRK gets Rs 280 crocre for hosting KBC...What a pity, in a country like India...I mean I am not jealous... Neither do I want cars like these...I truly appreciate his acting, charm and personality but since STAR has so much money and can donate SRK so much what else will he do other than buying expesnsive cars and rolling in luxury... India is a country of fools (which includes myself) and will remain like that for centuries... Nothing much can be done about this... Govt also after collecting loads of taxes does not know how to manage the money...The system here can only glorify those who are already rich.. It is anti poor and they need to be supressed n illtreated for the whims and fancies of a few...The line "Its my money, I do what I want with it" has done more harm than good to society...Bill Gates n Warren Buffet have already donated their billions back to society...Unfortunately our actors are far too dumb to do anything like this n can only mint money with their entertainment skills..Just ranting...hehehe
RE:Actually its my fault
by suman singh on Feb 09, 2007 02:15 AM
Mr. Yogi, You should question the very reason why and when Bill Gates went into this charity work. This is a gimmick which Microsoft went into to avoid the negative publicity they generated during the court battles over Window's monopoly. It's a ploy used by many business houses in US.
Ultimately, I am happy that some of the wealth of these ultra rich people is going to poor and needy, whatever the reason may have been.
Regarding considering our stars as heroes, it's nothing alien to Indians. It's a human mind set. Read the history of any country and you will understand that humans have always believed in hero-worship. The movies create a big platform for our actors and actresses to be portrayed as heroes and what do the mortals do - worship them of course. :)
RE:Actually its my fault
by Bala Natarajan on Feb 09, 2007 06:45 AM
Mr. Yogi, why are you having problem if somebody is giving gift to the person he likes and wants to appreciate? Why are you jaleous if these guys are earning so much? What are you doing for society? How can you assume Big B is not doing anything for society? At least Big B fans are not like regional fans in some part of India who are dying for their local heros. I know you are one of them. Big B has got all fame, respect and money because of his hard work, talent and good nature. Learn these things instead of being jaleous.
RE:RE:Actually its my fault
by Ranvir Kumar on Feb 10, 2007 12:57 AM
OK BALA...YOUR BIG B (BIG BUDHAA) HAS DONE LOT FOR SOCIETY...EXCEPT HIS SOCIETY COMPRISES OF JUST 2 PEOPLE...AMAR SINGH AND MULAYAM SINGH !! 2 LEADING CRIMINALS OF UP !!
RE:RE:Actually its my fault
by on Feb 09, 2007 12:55 AM
They are just running a business.. you cant blame them if their business is growing. Its absolutely okay to gift each other since they are profiting mutually! You want to entertain urself, so you go to watch movies. Then why blame ourself!
it is well known that...big b is is promoting his son....sometimes....!!!bacchans...are desperately trying 2 be in news...day in and out....WHAT A MOVE BY THE BACHANS TO ANNOUNCE ENGAGEMENT RIGHT AFTER GURU RELEASED....and the advertisement....big b gave in bombay times...all this shows...how....narrow minded the bachans...are...just for cheap publicity...they rooam ard with corrupt netas....announce engagements...gift...bentleys...nn stuff......ask people to vote for samjhwadi party during up elections....if nothing is happening then abs baby gets state award from up govt....for a reason only what amar singh and the bacchans know!!!abs baby....gave his first hit after...12 consecutive flops...despite so many failures he was given so many chances just coz he is big bs son....even my buildings watchman can deliver a hit after 12 flops...whats the big deal!!!!
why such a big deal is made out of big b.......some guys on rediff here say...what some kind of god of acting the big b is....just have look at his list of flop films
Saat Hindustani, Guddi, Pyar ki kahani, Parwaana, Sanjob, Reshma aur Shera, Bansi Birju, Bombay to Goa, Ek Nazar, Raste ka Pathar, Bande Haath, Gehri Chaal, Saudagar, Benaam, Kasauti, Faraar, Zameer, Do Anjaane, Adalat, Alaap, Imaan Dharam, Besharam, Ganga Ki Saugandh, Gol Maal, Jurmaana, Manzil, Do aur Do Panch, Barsaat Ki Ek Raat, Bemisaal, Mahaan, Pukar, Nastik, Inquilaab, Ganga Jamuna Saraswati, Jadugar, Main Azaad Hoon, Toofan, Aaj ka Arjun, Ajoba, Akayla, Indrajeet, Insaniyat, Mrityudata, Major Saab, Lal Baadshah, Sooryavansham, Hindustan Ki kasam, Kohram, Aks, Aankhen, Agnivarsha, Armaan, Boom, Ab Tumhare Hawale Watan Sathiyo, Kyun Hogaya Na, Lakshya, Aetbaar, Dev, Waqt, Viruddh, Dil Jo Bhi Kahey, Ek Ajnabee, Family, Darna Zaroori hai, Zamaanat.... I have not included some other movies which can also be considered as flops like: Silsila, Shaan, Satte Pe Satta to name a few.
why could not the god of acting save such films....have look at these films...u will see how pathetic he was in these films...
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by raja nisha on Feb 08, 2007 10:04 PM
Why blame the actor for flops? The directors r resp.The musiicians are responsible.The story may be bad. Law of averages applies to Sharukh and even Hrithik also. Reg. Amarsinghji, ek hi ghar men do alag kisam ke log hote hen.(they are like members of the same house). Dont criticise a genuenly good bond of friend ship.
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by Tari Gaand on Feb 08, 2007 09:53 PM
I really don't believe in donating money to the slum dwellers in India. A lot has been done for them since independence and due to lack of motivation they are still where they were. Let Big B enjoy his car. Waise boss gaddi zabardast. But bambai mein kaha chalayega Big B gaddi ko. Lagta he garage mein cover karke rakhega
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by Pratap on Feb 09, 2007 12:48 PM
what is your point, mr charlie sikander? It is well known that good acting does not correlate perfectly with box office success, else a naseeruddin shah or sanjeev kumar would also be superstars. and if you are talking about box office success, it is a fact that amitabh's total box office collections till date are sevarl times that of any other actor (obviously inflation adjusted, otherwise any below average hit film of today would have higher collections than even a Mother India or a Sholay). and if amitabh is still a superstar at 65 inspite pf the long list of flops you have cited (as far back as 1969), it is only bacause of his commercial success and his acting.
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by vijay emb on Feb 08, 2007 10:45 PM
Agree with most of them.Indian public are fools. This is a place where rich gets richer and poor getting even poorer.Plz dont read this as a opinion from a jealousy person.I dont believe has our media become so cheap that they have no other better news to cover rather than this shit.Wht has public got to do with this. Aishwrya rai has become a buffoon roaming around like a tail with bachans.Pity on her.Big B is a good actor.....great - na could never be so.So much of fake publicity by bacchans ... i really lost interest to watch them these days. Abhishek lol.... well money does counts. Public lets not to fools. There are better things n better people in life- but sorry u cannot see them on screen.
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by Prasad Thorat on Feb 08, 2007 09:07 PM
wow, that means you have watched this movies to rate it flop,if big b has given so flop movies then why did u watch so many movies of him .... i don't agree with it that he is a god of acting but come on man at this age also he rocks, & i suppose any father will support his son, so why to make a issues of big b supporting baby b, coz he is big b so.....
RE:RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by charles alexander on Feb 08, 2007 09:27 PM
u right...all fathers...support their children...but there is a limit to everything....big b by giving...advertisement in newspapers...blowing trumpets abt his son has gone overboard....thats what i feel!!!
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by Amit Singh on Feb 08, 2007 10:21 PM
Alexandar or sikandar Golmal mein Amitabh tha kya ? i dont remember. And Aaj ka arjun is a glop :) LOL Lakshya was a Hrithik roshan flop not a AB flop, adhe ghante ka role tha uska. Isme kam se kam 10 movies aisee hain jisme BigB ka 20-30 minutes ka role hain bas. Its like saying "Home Delivery" flopped bcos of Boman Irani not Vivek Oberoi"
RE:RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by Ranvir Kumar on Feb 10, 2007 01:07 AM
2007 WILL SEE THE LAST OF BACHANS NEVER ENDINGGGGG LINE OF FLOPS. COME 2008...HIS PRODUCERS WILL BE TOO BANKRUPT TO SIGN HIM ANY LONGER...ONLY WAY TO RECLAIM THEIR GIAGANTIC LOSSES BY AUCTIONIG HIS ILL-ACQUIRED BENTLEY AND RR. !!!
RE:bachaans in constant need of attention
by Jayant Chaudhary on Feb 08, 2007 09:43 PM
Nonsense... you love to bash him since he is the best we ever had... Grow-up and spend time on better things then listed his "so called flops"...
We all know Amitabh Bachchan has an ability to redefine the conventional interpretation of acting. He is one of the best actors of all time. A car or some money can not do justice with his acting talent. What is really needed is to give him a creative applause for his mannerism and his unique contribution to global cinema. Interestingly, this is the most neglected aspect of our film industry, film journalism and/or the so-called media studies. For example, Film industry has not done any thing collectively to use the creative resources of people like Bachchan. In the same way, film journalism is equally indifferent in this regard. We do not find any interview of Bachchan in which he is asked to explain his philosophy of acting. If I remember correctly, Bhawana Somaya did an interview with him and Sanjay Leela Bansali just before the release of Black. In this interview Bachchan pointed out that he did not believe in %u2018method acting%u2019. Somamya, who is an intelligent journalist, quite astonishingly, did not allow him to finish his point. In contrast, she raised another silly question on the beauty of Bachchan%u2019s eyes and his hands! So my point is people like Amitabh Bachchan, Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand, Gulzar and Javed Akhtar need to be appreciated in a sober manner and they should be asked to elaborate so many other important things related to acting and films. This, I suppose, will not only give them a creative satisfaction but also encourage newcomers and stupid starts like Shah Rukh Kahn to learn the meaning of originality and creativity.
RE:Mr. Bachchan Deserves Creative Admiration
by vijay emb on Feb 08, 2007 10:52 PM
You are a lost man Mr.Hilal Ahmed. Your views about AB talent is fine. We are talking his fake n cheap publicity.He is losing his image n charm.Your last line about Shah rukh is an indication thts its just ur star craze for Ab and nothing else. Tht was a stupid view ok. Grow up.
RE:RE:Mr. Bachchan Deserves Creative Admiration
by Hilal Ahmed on Feb 09, 2007 01:04 AM
I think you need to learn more about acting and films. In my message it is very clear that the talent of Bachchan'(and others creative people as well) has not been utilized fully for the benefit of the industry or academics. In this sense, I am making a very broad generalization which is equally valid for Bhawana Somaya and Shah Rukh Khan. The problem is that your superficial and inadequate knowledge could not go beyond the simple terms like 'star craze' . I think this is not your fault. Again this is some think which is going on in India in the name of education. So, I am not unhappy that you make such a silly point. I have deep sympathy for you Mr. Vijay
RE:RE:RE:RE:Mr. Bachchan Deserves Creative Admiration
by Hilal Ahmed on Feb 09, 2007 03:36 PM
This is the first time I am posting my view on this site. I had an impression that very few intelligent people actually participate in such discussion. It is astonishing that my hunch was absolutely correct. It seems Mr. Yogi like other Mr. Vijay did not understand the totality of the point. I did not say that Amitabh needs any other award; rather my point was that we need to go beyond these politics of awards and do some thing constructive. Mr. Yogi , w
RE:RE:RE:RE:Mr. Bachchan Deserves Creative Admiration
by Pratap on Feb 09, 2007 12:55 PM
WHY NOT? It is a fact of life that awards can be bought and requires extreme lobbying. Didn't Sharukh say he wanted to buy one of the Filmfare awards? How a lousy Paheli (remake of Duvidha) and not Black was sent to the Oscars? With the blessings of Soniaji and the Congress, it won't be surprising if he lands a major award soon.
RE:RE:RE:Mr. Bachchan Deserves Creative Admiration
by Pratap on Feb 09, 2007 12:58 PM
Completely agree with you Hilal. The star system ( a Hollywood legacy we have inherited unlike the European approach) completely destroys appreciation of good cinema
Nowadays it seems that Big B is also not the original one whom people admires.Now he is also going to cheap publicity either for his films or his son's film.But definately he is benefitted by these things caz due to marriage publicity only his son is now a established star
RE:Costly Gift but Cheap publicity
by Benedict Fernandes on Feb 08, 2007 05:10 PM
nahin mile to angoor khaatte comeon shailendra kumar I think you are still a school going kid baat kya ho rahi hai aur yeh kahan jaa raha hai. If you are having so much problem with AB then why do you read just leave it alone...............
RE:RE:RE:Costly Gift but Cheap publicity
by Ranvir Kumar on Feb 10, 2007 01:11 AM
WELL SAID SHAILENDRA KUMAR,,,, BACHANS ARE REDIFINING THE WORD 'CHEAP' EVERYDAY...!!! THEIR DOWNFALL IS FULL AND FINAL !!
I am also ardent admirer of mister AB, but I am really surprised how can he become part of such a low grade publicity. VVC should have waited for public response to the film. Kya hoga agar public refuse kar de to? AB should have asked VVC to wait for film relase and its response too...
RE:why this show off...
by Benedict Fernandes on Feb 08, 2007 05:13 PM
Ms. Bharti I think you are taking it too much then you can actually think of. A employer wants to give his employee the incentive he deserved nothing else. when the public see's the product then it is public's choice.....please think before writing
it apears as an rashtriya award rather than a gift, so much announcements, media coverage, just to keep bachchans in news, few anews channel AAJ TAK apearently purchsed by amarsingh has given two hour coverage on this issue, gift is heart to heart & should not be announced or propogated. it seem they want to attract crwd for eklavya throgh this cheap publicity
RE:Of cars, modesty and Eklavya
by Ranvir Kumar on Feb 10, 2007 01:13 AM
VERY TRUE...AAJ TAK SHOULD BE RE-NAMED AMITABH SE AMAR DWARA ABHISHEK TAK...SABSE TEZ !!!
I have gone through of all messages sent by people in this regard and I agree with a few that in our country some people who have been blessed with wealth are really not rich in heart but in their own status. The real rich according to me the persons who help the forbidden (the poor and honest who have not been allowed to share the fruits of the common wealth of the independent India even after 60 years (approximately).
Nothing great giving a gift like this to AB that too such a big gift. Let them think even now about the downtrodden and sense the ground realities.
RE:Car gift to AB/BB ?
by Amit Singh on Feb 08, 2007 08:02 PM
I am really amused to read comments on the article. People are bashing Bachchans on the name of Poverty in India. There are hundreds of billionares in USA and still they are a develped nation, isn't it. If u really are bothered about the widening Gap between the rich and the poor go catch hold of the Leaders of Congress Party who have F....d India for 40 years. Go catch hold of Politicians like Laloo prasad Yadav who have made black money worth thousands of crores. No body knows how much money is there lying unclaimed in the swiss bank accounts. Bachchan or Sachin or Ambani are professionals in their fields. They have excelled and are getting their due. They don't publicise what they donate to the needy bcos that would be cheap publicity according to me. Grow up and have the guts to speak against who are actually guilty.
RE:RE:Car gift to AB/BB ?
by charles alexander on Feb 08, 2007 08:27 PM
hundreds of billionaires....are u out of ur mind!!!!it is well known that...big b is is promoting his son....sometimes....!!!bacchans...are desperately trying 2 be in news...day in and out....WHAT A MOVE BY THE BACHANS TO ANNOUNCE ENGAGEMENT RIGHT AFTER GURU RELEASED....and the advertisement....big b gave in bombay times...all this shows...how....narrow minded the bachans...are...just for cheap publicity...they rooam ard with corrupt netas....announce engagements...gift...bentleys...nn stuff......ask people to vote for samjhwadi party during up elections....if nothing is happening then abs baby gets state award from up govt....for a reason only what amar singh and the bacchans know!!!abs baby....gave his first hit after...12 consecutive flops...despite so many failures he was given so many chances just coz he is big bs son....even my buildings watchman can deliver a hit after 12 flops...whats the big deal!!!!
RE:RE:RE:Car gift to AB/BB ?
by Prasad Thorat on Feb 08, 2007 09:15 PM
i think ur buildings watchman should be in movies but then why is he a watchman, & do u really know about acting that u are spking abt the flops of big b or big b promoting his son, i suppose u would not promote ur son isn't it, coz i think ur against supporting of promoting ur sons whn he needs tht, grow up man, tht is his own personal life whether to support or not.... & why ru guys behind big b so much that u can't digest his publicity... i don't think u can compare urself to him as ur so much against his moves....
RE:RE:RE:RE:Car gift to AB/BB ?
by charles alexander on Feb 08, 2007 09:33 PM
we are not behind big b....the fact that he is here there evrywhere in newspapers....news channels...evrywhere promoting his son....is relly getting too much...and is really disturbing...the public!!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Car gift to AB/BB ?
by on Feb 08, 2007 10:49 PM
Dear Mr Alexander,
do one thing switch of the TV, the best will be follow gandhiji, close your ears, eyes and the most important your mouth. If you are so much worried about the poor , dont waste money on internet like this to write crap about hard working people, go and donate that money to poor.When you cant do somehting , dont critisize that others are not doing, just get up and do it, if you are feeling so much about it.
RE:RE:RE:Car gift to AB/BB ?
by Jayant Chaudhary on Feb 08, 2007 09:47 PM
There you go aagin Charles... why so hateful of him... and his family??? Any personal grudges?? Big-B is not called Big for nothing. There is a reason why media loves him (because there are masses who love him), so what you are not one of them. Every person in this world has someone who hates him/her. Every great person from Mahatma Gandhi to Jesus have been target of hatred of someone or other..
