RE:mangal palndey - the worst film ever
by Leena on Aug 29, 2005 12:07 PM
No history has been messed up !!!! A couple of commercial scenes/songs can NEVER mess the history, if you are interested in the history and not the scenes/songs you are talking about..
Mr.Sen! U seem to have in your mind that history is absolutely correct.The fact is it is not.I will cite u an example here.Kings or the Emperors used to employ poets in their courts; the poets,atleast almost everyone,used to take this as an oppurtunity to flatter the Kings and thereby sought financial rewards.So,all you could get to see from history is poems composed on the kings good virtues and all praises.Similar was the case in the British-era.Mind u!almost all of the historians who wrote about the British rule were Britishers themselves and so their books were had in them all praise from the rulers.And if u find any Indian historian downplaying(in negative sense)the cruel,inhuman,torturous treatment given to the Indian(mostly poor) soldiers(working for the British rule) it only means they had written it only with an intention to get the appraisal of the Rulers(Englishmen).If u r firm believer in history books then let me tell u thatI had the same written in my history books of 6th,7th,8th Std. NCERT textbooks(of 1995,96,97 respectively); it was mentioned in the books about the inhuman treatment meted out to Indian soldiers working for the British Rule.
Well, isnt this the same raja sen, who literally showered so much of praise on PAheli and rubbished Sarkar??? So much for your so called REVIEWS Mr.Sen.
Why is it that we always try to play down our heroes and give credence to even a whiff of doubt about them? Rudrangshu is a writer who is trying to get mileage out of the popularity of the film. Why should we believe him?
Coming to the actual review of the movie, the critic (?) questions the long hair of Mangal Pandey. Going by the social background of brahmins was it not a fact that they had long hairs? He says that british were sticklers to rules and crew cut MUST HAVE BEEN THE NORM. There is a lot of difference between what must have been and what it actually was. We dont know. If long hair adds credence and aura around the character one is playing, so be it. Why question that? There are many such glaring glitches in this so called review.
As regards the commercial success of this movie I dont know. The Indian youth today are more open to see inane and senseless movies churned out by the Johars and Chopras rather than watching a good film on an Indian patriot. But the opening which this movie got was awesome!!!!
Mr.Raja sen! Any writer must keep aside his personal likes and dislikes aside while writing a review.Otherwise,he/she doesn't really fit to be even called a writer.And u come in the latter category.U have,it seems closed ur mind and have written this review.U don't deserve to be called a Writer.U don't fit into this bill(writer's).
This makes a sad reading.I wonder why does Rediffmail.com allows such people to write articles who keep their personal grudges in their mind and write the articles.Here,it seems,the writer,Mr.Raja Sen has something against the actor - Aamir Khan and so has written heavily criticizing him.That Mangal Pandey is doing decently at the box office and that people are liking it fairly well,supports my argument and proves the writer's review is incorrect.I request the writer to put his grudges aside and see the movie as just another viewer.Also,I advise him to take a look at what the director,Mr.Ketan Mehta said before the movie's release; he said that the movie is not based completely on Mangal Pandey's life AND that the movie is has in it some fiction in it as well,courtesy script work of the script writer. And that some additions,which have no proof in the history books could also be seen in the movie.So,ur arguement(or criticism) holds no water and sounds terribly stupid.
I agree with the fact that Mangal Pandey was anything but a patriotic movie which it was ment to be. It had every thing from Mujra,smooches to sex scenes to sensual songs "Rasiya..." but hey where is the patriotic part of the movie. I thought it was edited or was it ever canned. I really doubt Amir Khan's sensibleties when he puts his four years of life in such a project. The love story was major part of screenplay and the real story was narrated to us by Mr Om Puri in background which was like revising eighth standard text book.
Finally Kudos to MR KETAN MEHTA who could add vulgarity in a PERIOD PATRIOTIC MOVIE. How did u do it SIR. So I think you should have titled movie MANGAL PANDEY - 1857 A LOVE STORY .... I guess it sound more sensible.
RE:Mangal Pandey - 1857 a love story
by kiran on Aug 31, 2005 07:18 PM
i agree with u...there is nothing under the banner that it is a patriotic movie...
Our friend Raja Sen is a die hard fan of Shah rukh Khan and for a personal satisfaction makes Mangal Pandey look like a Total Disaster. Mr. Sen it is much better to watch such films than some real fooling senseless masala like Asoka and Main Hoon Na. Its people like you who for a few extra free pegs at Page 3 parties keep fanning such mindless movies whereas sincere hard work like MP gets on the chopping table. Well yes there are misrepresentations ...but what the hell so did Schindlers list and Gandhi. Yuo wont comment on them because u probably never understood them ....or for the matter Devdas... I am sure that would have been great for you to see a classic with all details available in the literature (a perpetual readymade script) being raped into a fancy dress of sorts with loud and caricature performances. What have you to say to that? but then u r a film critic ....well u r paid to write these trash...some day would like to sit with u and test what acting is all about an dwhat film making is all about. Because I being an amateur know much better than your Prejudiced and Biased crap !!!
RE:Raja Sen
by Leena on Aug 29, 2005 12:03 PM
Sheel, Great reply to a pathetic article by Raja Sen! Loved what you mentioned about the ' so-called great film, Devdas'... Couldn't agree more!!!!!
It was outrageous the way this person Raja Sen has described Mangal Pandey and completely slandered the film. And to think rediff.com would actually post such a poor excuse for an article. This guy Raja Sen's comments like "Mangal Pandey is just cleavage and cliche." and "How pathetic is the film" are totally unacceptable. other comments like "whats with the hair" shows his lack of understanding of the art of film-making. Incidently, he seems to be a Shahrukh Khan Fan, so it is obvious he would have such a twisted mentality. Mangal Pandey is one of the greatest works of art in Indian Cinema, but obviously Raja Sen prefers flicks with "k..k..k..kiran" and these kind of useless flicks. and lastly, did he say aamir was jealous of srk's disaster movie asoka? whaaat????? let me remind you mr.sen that asoka was one of the biggest flops of the decade, if not the entire life-span of hindi cinema. each and every line of raja sen's article is, i'm sorry to say, pure crap!
Well on surface of it I agree with comments by you however there in another way of looking at movie just read my views abt the movie and see if that changes any thing http://mangal_pandey_the_awakeing.rediffblogs.com/
