India should rather improve on the existing network and improve the qualities to benefit the poor than think of a select few. Modi is hopelessly a pro-rich PM.
India must have HSR services, because China has it, & our tallest leader wants it to rival our northern neighbour. By the time tenders are floated,offers received,negotiation done,agreement signed,work order issued, it will be 2017, & by the time project is completed somewhere in the mid 2020s the cost of this will go up to Rs 110,000 crores.
You cant run normal trains and talking about bullet trains. Few people have blocked the tracks for last 6 days and you are counting your achievements. People will teach you a lesson in next election soon.
Re: You cant run Normal Trains
by bakchod on May 27, 2015 11:43 AM
YOu suffer from premature excitement?
Suresh Prabhu clearly said that Railway funds won't be used for it. It will be funded by Japan, ADB, etc and run in PPP mode. So why are you crying?
Whoever wants to travel by bullet train will pay and travel. If it is making loss, then it is not government's loss.
Personally even I don't think bullet trains are needed at this stage. But I don't care if some private companies, Japan, ADB, foreign pension funds want to invest and build the bullet train network. It will create jobs in India.
Re: Re: You cant run Normal Trains
by Vijay Sahani on May 27, 2015 12:12 PM
Bullet trains will not be run by private companies. They will be run by Indian Railways. Just funded by long term loan by Japan / China. Check your facts. Nowhere has the government said that Bullet trains will be owned and managed by private companies.
Re: Re: Re: You cant run Normal Trains
by Dipankar Mukherji on May 27, 2015 12:46 PM
If there is a loss Railways will not give Guarantee. It is a Biz risk to be taken by the entrepreneur. Though i disagree with bullet train.
Re: Re: Re: Re: You cant run Normal Trains
by Vijay Sahani on May 27, 2015 12:48 PM
The owner takes the risk and reward. In this case Bullet trains will be owned and managed by Indian Railways. Losses, if any, will be to the account of the Indian Railways.
You cant run normal trains and talking about bullet trains. Few people have blocked the tracks for last 6 days and you are counting your achievements. People will teach you a lesson in next election soon.
To fulfill dream of Mr. Modi to have Bullet train between Mumbai and Ahmadabad the expenditure should not pose a problem. After all the property will remain with the state. The train will be an attraction to pull visitors to both the States by which even the hoteliers and other business may develop creating job for unemployed. The country can afford to spend this small aamount to fulfill the dream of a PM.
Re: Only 90,000K ?
by Vijay Sahani on May 27, 2015 11:39 AM
True.
The biggest advantage will be the showcasing of Indian technology (bought outright from China or Japan) in running trains with speeds above 130 kmp which is the max speed of Rajdhani currently. I'm sure the tourists (especially from India) would love to see bullet trains in India (even if they won't be able to sit in one because of high cost of the tickets).
Did i hear someone mention poverty? Well, that's a small price to pay in front of national pride.
i request PM and ALL THE MINISTERS to abandon this project immediately. focus on improving the existing basic facilities and increase the speed of our overall network. improve the tracks, safety system, double tracks, better railway coaches, platforms, etc. 150 to 180 kph is good enough for us in present scenario.
Re: PLEASE ABANDON BULLET TRAIN PROJECT
by MOHAN LAD on May 27, 2015 11:34 AM
This deal will give Modi/BJP at least 30000 crs in kickback, while general public toils in worst than animal class travel.
Re: PLEASE ABANDON BULLET TRAIN PROJECT
by bakchod on May 27, 2015 11:48 AM
That is what they are doing.
Bullet train will be funded by ADB, Japan, private investors and foreign pension funds which have lot of money but no place to invest. Bullet train is not going to be funded by Indian govt to any significant extent. Most of the money will come from external investors.
Right now I am sitting in Vijayawada for work and want to return to Delhi. But train tickets are full and airfare is costing 11,000 rupees. I would also spend nearly 1000 rupees for taxi to the airport in Vijaywada and Delhi. I wouldn't mind paying 6,000 rupees to travel by bullet train if it existed.
Basically bullet train will help businesses run more efficiently. It will save many man-hours and airfare money.
Just lay more tracks and increase average speed of important trains from origin to destination to 100 kmph. No need to invest money in fancy bullet trains. The US, Canada and Britain do not have such mode of transport.
Re: Re: Foolish
by Suresh Jain on May 27, 2015 11:41 AM
Is Ambani/Adani going to use this trains ? it is people like you with your hidden agendas which vitiate the atmosphere
Re: Foolish
by bakchod on May 27, 2015 11:50 AM
That is what they are doing. Suresh Prabhu clearly told in interview few days ago, that govt is not going to fund the bullet train. He is focussing on doubling and quadrupling of tracks to increase average speed of current trains.
Bullet train will be funded primarily by Japan, ADB, foreign pension funds, etc.
Spend this money on laying double track connecting all metros so that we can have more passsenger trains. Why cant the govt think for the poor and common man.
Re: bullet train
by bakchod on May 27, 2015 11:51 AM
That is what they are doing. Please read more and improve your general knowledge. Bullet train is not going to be funded by government / public money.
Spend this money on laying double track connecting all metros so that we can have more passsenger trains. Why cant the govt think for the poor and common man.
