i m too much concern about protecting people from HI-B AND MIND RELATED DESEASES.....PERVERSITY,HOMOSEXUALITY......PEOPLE ARE BECOMING TRANSGENDERS......
If USA does not want Indian IT professionals then they should scrap the H1 visa but the question is who is going to fund their social security program :)
Re: H1B
by antoniopope on Jan 27, 2010 09:43 AM
it is a xia'n country? what do u expect? some of the kirala xia'n slave's were also in the group? They want to recounvert back to the original god fearing religion?
Some citizen/GC desis are ridiculing H1B desis, forgetting they too were visa holders at some point. Once the H1B holders get GC, they will start ridiculing other newer H1B holders. The cycle continues, typical selfish desi attitude. Grow up guys.
Re: who cares?
by Rdhakrishnan Venugopalan on Jan 27, 2010 06:34 AM
ur right. Why the desi indians go first to america? does this affect any common man in india? Just to say these greedy indians need to be taxed heavily in US as they inturn come and invest in india causing problem for the common people. SO go ahead and restrict these greedy rich indians... Radha
Re: Re: who cares?
by Sameer on Jan 27, 2010 10:20 AM
greedy Indians ? Whoa , so trying to make a living is termed greedy now ? I bet if given the choice , you would try to work in other countries as well. Stop this hypocrisy.
what problems do they cause by comming back to India ? Approximately what percentage of desi's actually come back ? Do you have any idea ? On the same note, If the Indians migrating to other countries whine about being mistreated there, then its their problem since its they who have made their bed.
Re: Re: who cares?
by Sameer on Jan 27, 2010 10:20 AM
greedy Indians ? Whoa , so trying to make a living is termed greedy now ? I bet if given the choice , you would try to work in other countries as well. Stop this hypocrisy.
what problems do they cause by comming back to India ? Approximately what percentage of desi's actually come back ? Do you have any idea ? On the same note, If the Indians migrating to other countries whine about being mistreated there, then its their problem since its they who have made their bed.
Re: who cares?
by sunny on Jan 27, 2010 04:14 AM
Well first its not about the money. Guy on H1 pays tax every year but doesn't get any benifits from the goverment.And H1's are getting jobs because american people are not qualified for those jobs. If all H1's are thrown out they'll have to shut down NJTransit for sure!!
Re: Re: who cares?
by Sameer on Jan 27, 2010 10:22 AM
yeah because to be elgible for Social Security benefits , you would have to have paid taxes in US for 10 years and the h1b program is for just 6 years
Re: who cares?
by Chirag Majmundar on Jan 27, 2010 03:33 AM
Well, I understand you dont care. Tell me how many Americans would like do coding or do the tuning in the DB, hmm... I didn hear you... 5%. There is where you need Indians. Who saves money and feeds others for free in the name of Security. H1B folks are not eligible for any benefit from government, that goes to YOU, there is where you need Indians. You need Indians when there is more amount of work and intelligent work, who doesnt believe in 9-to-5 job and works what ever he gets.
And dont surprise a bit, if yr daughter marries an Indian Origin guy. We will be here for long, and we will stick till end.
Re: who cares?
by cardus paul on Jan 30, 2010 12:31 PM
Is it ok to care for an American who was killed in 9/11? He was in twin towers for money- he should have been in salvation army soup kitchen serving poors.. This is where your logic leads you..
Re: who cares?
by Sachin on Jan 27, 2010 03:28 AM
may be u don't know this. The money which NRI's sent is more than 4 % of overall Indian GDP. i.e. our defence expense
Re: who cares?
by dev singh on Jan 27, 2010 06:14 AM
You didn't get your chance tha's why the grapes are sour. Don't forget that these H1B workers contribute to social security system which they would never be able to utilize.
I just landed on Newark successfully. At POE they asked several questions regarding my company, my job profile. Answered to all of those, and got entry.
Re: Re: just landed on Newark successfuly
by vivek singh on Jan 27, 2010 03:05 AM
Well, I am not working as a consultant. I am working as a fulltime employee for my company.
Re: Re: Re: just landed on Newark successfuly
by tim jim on Jan 27, 2010 03:14 AM
all consultants are supposedly working full time for their consulting companies so technically ur right
Re: Re: Re: just landed on Newark successfuly
by Rahul Verma on Jan 27, 2010 03:13 AM
My message was not directed at you Vivek. If you were placed by a consultant, you would probably not be posting a comment here.
I was making a general comment about all the people who pin their hopes and dreams on consultants and then have them destroyed by the same consultant's mistakes.
Re: just landed on Newark successfuly
by Chirag Majmundar on Jan 27, 2010 03:10 AM
Congrats Vivek. People are talking about validity of the VISA, you think all the guys came on H1B for the first time, did not have enough docs. There is one very good informative document on the blogs of CyrusMehta. This is a very misinterpreation of the law and bad implementation of the Memo. I am feeling very pitty for those who came to US and had to return without any fault. They should not have issued VISA at all if they dont want H1B folks to work as consultant. India and Indians are gonna suffer a lot because of the Anti-Immigrant policy of Obama. I was expecting someone from Indian Government to speak up on this subject, but they are busy with their own politics. They dont care if half of Kashmir is shown in Pakistan & China or Prices of necessary things are sky high. What are the Indians working with Obama doing ? Why did they not raise any question ? I will support anyone who will oppose such humiliated efforts to stop Indian H1B workers.
Re: Re: just landed on Newark successfuly
by Honest on Jan 27, 2010 03:30 AM
I agree.
Even they issued a visa, simply can amend another rule that Issued visa for H1 is no more valid. Why they are not doing that. Bcuz these gora loog wanted money and unnecessary that guy or his company have to spend... why???
Re: just landed on Newark successfuly
by sunny on Jan 27, 2010 04:03 AM
As Rahul said if you have all the important docs such as pay stubs,w2 etc and can answer all the questions confidently I see no reason for sending you back from POE. I think its only happening for fresh H1's and some black listed desi companies.
This is good news as it elimintates the fraud resumes and also eliminates the lower billing. These fraud and blood sucking consulting firms made the IT market as a fruit/vegetable market. Now a days when these comapnies call, they talk billing in the range of $20 or max $30 or $433 per hour. Most of the indian consultants are taking advanatge of american laws and are making money illegally. These consultants are ready to take any offer and are also instrumental in bringing down the billing rates. I saw lot of people working in the companies with fake resumes and with lower billing. This law will eliminate all these fakers and also the dirty companies. Also US Govt needs to look into the fakers who are hurting the people having real experience. US Gov needs to ban these people(having fake experience) and also the companies encouraging these fake resumes.
Re: This is great news
by Chirag Majmundar on Jan 27, 2010 03:29 AM
I think that wont be possible to eliminate "middle" guy. Look at the number of counsultant companies and manpower they have. Eliminating middle vendor will drastically bring down the number of people working. Best way is the verify the authenticity of the people working with companies. Its tough, long and expensive. But its rather good than harrasing genuine people working here for long term. If you are complaining about lesser rates, you have to be more competent. There are many comapnies with good rates around. And even if that is the case I will rather take 5-10$ less if that accomodates one more Indian in US.
There has to be big gathering in front of white house again like many immigration forumns do. Join them, support them. Not doing anything, blaming others and keep on whining, will not help anyone.
Re: can some one explain with an example ??
by Rahul Verma on Jan 27, 2010 01:34 AM
raj, this action has been taken to curb fraud by "consultancies" who fill job openings with candidates who are neither qualified nor experienced for the work they are hired for.
This is a stop gap move till the US government figures out a way to outwit these fraudsters who are mainly Telugu and Gujarati people.
Re: Re: can some one explain with an example ??
by simplethought on Jan 27, 2010 03:33 AM
Mind you typecasting these fraudsters to telugu and gujarathi, i have seen people from delhi, mumbai, tamilnadu, karnataka.... doing it too..
Don't feel ashamed to term it as Fraud Indian consultancy companies.
On the other side, there is supply only to meet the demand. Why do these companies have requirement for experienced professionals?. If a person with fake resume gets that job, how is he/she sticking to it?..He/she is getting the job done rite?... What happens if they don't find these people in time...Think about it.
I am a Telugu and a fulltime.
I personally feel all the consultancies should be removed, but this doesn't solve the problem.
Re: Re: Re: Re: can some one explain with an example ??
by simplethought on Jan 27, 2010 06:58 AM
hmm..and seriously Rahul baba...please don't mention where you came from and bring disgrace to your state...
Re: Re: Re: Re: can some one explain with an example ??
by simplethought on Jan 27, 2010 06:22 AM
If that's what you understood from what i have written...
Re: can some one explain with an example ??
by kumar on Jan 27, 2010 01:34 AM
Raj - I believe this is how it's going to work. This applies for new H1s or for H1 extensions. If you work for companies like TCS,CTS,Wirpo etc, you don;t have any issue because these companies work directly for client. But if you came through the layers of consulting firms, then it will be a problem.
Re: Re: can some one explain with an example ??
by aurigo auri on Jan 27, 2010 03:32 AM
There are 100s of scenarios where these so called big IT Companies work under layers. So it does not matter. For lot of clients TCS , WIPRO , INFY etc are in 3rd layer under Comsys or Unisys or etc
But would keep check on fraudulent consulting companies like First-Tek Technologies, NJ and to bust companies like these for their malpractice and unethical exploits.
But would keep check on fraudulent consulting companies like First-Tek Technologies, NJ and to bust companies like these for their malpractice and unethical exploits.
