Re: Cool
by Kaka on Aug 15, 2010 09:02 PM
Shameless Pakkad Ke Roya playing the usual game again, blabbering away insane things that only he can. Little wonder his Grandma called him a third rate dimwit penniless fit for only cleaning the floor and washing the azzes of all. A typical PorkiKatlu, PakkadGoya RoyaRoyaRoya....
Re: Cool
by Rajindran Annath on Aug 14, 2010 06:47 PM
You come across as a pretty dissillusioned personality! What is the reason for such intense hatred for your Indian IT kids sir?
Re: Re: Re: Cool
by Rajindran Annath on Aug 14, 2010 07:26 PM
All these acts of "compromising on ethics" "bringing out race card", "keep saying about how great their culture and country is" etc.. are experienced all across the globe. It is not character exclusive to "Indian IT Coolies" Whether one works under someone or above someone and all is... there are contributing factors to it. If the American corporates who hires Infy and the likes did not get what they wanted from these chopshops in the first place, do you think they (chop shops) would have survived to this day?
The question is not if you pay taxes or you are a law abiding citizen or if you are recruiting people in US. Infy crowd is missing the point.
The Senator is attacking the self esteem of the folks back home in India. The sad truth is software companies in India continue to do data scavenging projects and they operate in a sweat shop mode. This whole business is done with a disguise of hightech innovative research task.
It is ofcourse dirty job and first accept it. Then everything will fall into place. Your employees wont crib and the senators wont scream. But your existence will be in peril.
The truth of the day on employment is, most US jobs manufacturing, BPO, call centers, IT, software & hardware development etc have been sent offshore. Immigrants from Asia (China & India) have taken the intern, contract & permanant jobs available in US. Infy, Wipro, TCS etc. use H1/L1/B1 VISAs to send temporary workers to US to make sure they essentially run client's business.
It is a question of time when the remaining jobs in US disappear to India / China.
The wall street will be more than happy to make all the money with work done in India OR China.
While US employees live in fear & insecurity, the companies have frozen their wages OR reduced their compensation against living costs in the country.
I have seen & heard many projects suffer quality & schedule after they were sent to places such as India / China.
The major problem is, every Indian who is graduate, diploma OR at least done a software course, claims himself as an engineer & the industry is eager to replace MS, Mtech, Phds of US with these non-engineers even when they know work suffers to show lower payroll & more profits. Competition between engineers in India & US will only result in suffering of the middle class & gains for rich capitalists.
How can one expect US & european workers to compete with salaries in India & China while its less than
Re: Why VISA is needed ?
by suresh chinta on Aug 14, 2010 06:37 PM
No one pays if a job is not done or not done well, Most indian companies have better project management process than the corporates in India to implement IT projects. The people generally go to do MS will go for a job, for that matter a person who studied computer science for 4 years in engg and experience will have better knowledge than the person who did Engg in non computer science for 4 years and completes an MS in 2 years. By the way Indian population purchases lot of services and products from many nations. What if India bans buying microsoft products, then what happens to MS jobs.
I am neither an Infosys employee not a chop shop worker but let me put this in perspective. With a Harvard education and 2 decades of experience heading serious committees of national interest, you have made one of the dumbest possible remarks that only convey your ignorance and short-sightedness. First things first.. Infosys is not just an Indian company. Infosys is a Global services firm and does not eat up the jobs of middle class America as much as it concerns you. It does business globally and employs citizens across the world at the most competitive compensation and rewards performance. Most importantly the right person for the job even if he/she is from Bechuanaland. It is not a Joe’s job done by Doe. It is firms like Infosys that made American Industry competitive and brought some cheer to otherwise stagnant economy. Infosys CEO’s don’t pay themselves ridiculous bonuses the way American immoral American CEO’s do. Infosys is a generous sponsor to many Industry associations, Universities and Schools and even Individuals in any sphere and the leadership has always lived by example. What you should be addressing is a much larger issue of employment creation in America. Your own Wal-Mart has exported all of America to China staring early 80’s. Many of the core American manufacturing and consumer products companies get their stuff from China in the hope that Americans back home can
Re: Shortsightedness
by hot boy on Aug 10, 2010 02:36 PM
buy them cheap but this is where things seriously went wrong because you were a mute spectator to many middle class Americans losing their jobs to become poorer over the years (much before the like of Infosys first set up “chop shops” as you would like to put it) and eventually the same Americans couldn’t afford this cheap produce because they don’t earn as much now or live on social security checks. Your own American firms are stashing up wealth in offshore tax havens to defer and avoid taxes in the excuse of re-investment and you continued to support them. So why find an excuse in some “foreign” entity to vent out your incompetence. Treat corporations like corporations. Don’t take out your vengeance because some of your electorate complained to you that Infosys did not hire them. Come out of your obsession of India bashing
Re: Re: Shortsightedness
by Rajindran Annath on Aug 14, 2010 07:34 PM
Wow! Didnt know that "Stanford and Havard had thrown open thier doors to a lot of Indians"!!! Now that any Indian can get in there just like that, there would be a mad rush! Is there any reservation for the minority community or anything like that?
