It is true that emissions per person in India are less than those in other countries, but we should not look at EMISSIONS PER PERSSON.
We are a country of 1.2 to 1.3 billion and our population is one-sixth of the world's population (how shameless!!!). Since we have more than 1.2 billion persons, our emissions per person will be obviously less.
The area of India is about half of Europe, but our population density is much higher.
The correct criterion should be EMISSIONS PER UNIT AREA (SQUARE KILOMETER). When you consider the size of India, its area in square kilometers, find out what is the quantity of emissions per square kilometer. Is that less than the global average of emissions per square kilometer or not?
That is the question to be asked: what is the quantity of emissions per square kilometer in India and how does that compare with USA, Europe, China and other countries?
I guess our EMISSIONS PER SQUARE KILOMETER would be much higher than in USA, Europe or China.
So, it may be necessary for India to reduce its emissions.
Re: Indian argument is wrong
by Rahul on Sep 25, 2009 11:55 AM
What are u talking about. Just to make india cut back emissions, u talk about a new criteria.
India is not responsible for climate change. This has been the fault of west which have been burning fossil fuels for the past 200 years. I am all support for not cutting emissions even for the next 50 years. Climate change can come ;later.
First our priority is to remove poverty, unemployment, build world- class infrastucture. The Indian governemnt's stand is absolutely right.
Re: Re: Indian argument is wrong
by Mr Walker on Sep 25, 2009 12:00 PM
Well India is as much responsible as any other country so stop shunning responsibility and blaming others and learn some good.
Re: Indian argument is wrong
by Mr Walker on Sep 25, 2009 12:01 PM
You are right but these people who claim to be patriotic will blame you for speaking out obvious truth. The problem with Indians is their non-acceptance of truth and reality.
If only they would understand M K Gandhi rather than routinely puttting garlands on his statue.
Re: Indian argument is wrong
by Krishna on Sep 25, 2009 12:04 PM
Area of Europe is double of India, but the population is half, true. But, the population of human beings of european origin is double of India and area under the control of people of european origin is more than half of the world. Please don't guess anything , know the facts, they are all available in the net. CO2 emission of India is 3-5% of the world emission, whereas that of USA is close to 20%, even countries like Australia contribute CO2 more than India. Please understand, this is armtwisting by the west to curb the growth of Asia, in the guise of climate.
Re: Re: Indian argument is wrong
by Ab J on Sep 25, 2009 12:10 PM
you try to understand before preaching others. The 3-5% pollution is not done by 1.3 billion people. It is by a few million people leding polluing lifestyles. These people are as big a polluter as americans. A person with a car will pollute more in 1 day than 1000 poor people pollute in their lives. What lazy indians are doing is showcasing their poor population to corner befits for themselves, much like the quota champions.
We as a strong 1 billion population we consume more than we take.The heaven of the world is going to turn an hell before we even act.
We have a law system i agree but the number of loop holes is more than we can imagine.
The depletion of trees, natural water and offcourse lets not forget the great himalya glaciers which are melting at very fast pace.
We are just thinking about the next generation while the outside world is thinking about generations to come.
We need to accept our faults and walk through them.Its time for globalization and we need to seek help to leverage their capabilities for a greener and a better planet.
If this is progress.I better stay as half human and half monkey....I see so many lands and lake beds being acquired by illegal miscreants. River beds dug up because of our stupid unplanned infrastructure and off course the individual greed to make money. Why cant India distribute money equally????? I hope that would reduce the poverty and give base to all people to educate them selves and act responsibly.
Jai Hind - Irrespective of Cast and Creed and Boundaries lets create a better world.
Re: We are Wrong and we need to admit that!
by harsha bhatt on Sep 25, 2009 10:56 AM
Every developed country in the world including US are consuming multifolds of per capita energy compared to developing country like India and they are trying to implement so called green technologies for others. US, not ready to implemnt KYOTO prorocol, is taliking of linking development aids to devoloping countries to the green house emission standards. Thats the height of hypocrycy. Lets not cut or scale back our developmental projects under pressure from these rougue countries.
But, at the same time, India should immediately do something to control the population explosion, which is the root cause of all the problems faced by India.
Re: We are Wrong and we need to admit that!
by Alwyn george on Sep 25, 2009 10:54 AM
let developed countries put their house in order rather than telling us, their emmision are much much greater than what India emits
Re: We are Wrong and we need to admit that!
by Mr Walker on Sep 25, 2009 12:05 PM
You are absolutely right and probably the most valuable and patriotic citizen of India.
Those who speak the truth and account for it are far more loyal than those who join a patriotic jingoism to denounce everything seemingly against their country.
Re: We are Wrong and we need to admit that!
by abhijith bharadwaj on Sep 25, 2009 12:26 PM
Ms Nandini, If you beleive that "the outside world is thinking about generations to come..." Let me tell you some ground realities in developed countries like US and UK (where i have stayed for more than 2 yrs). 1. All houses in these countries are made from plywood. 2. If you go to a mall to bring your grocery, you will come back with atleast 12-15 plastic covers on an average. 3. Almost 100% household in these countries use incandescent bulbs. on an average for a living room of size 10ft by 10ft, they will have 4 100Watts bulbs. Just compare this with 40Watts tubelights used in more than 70% of Electric homes in India. 4. Every person in a house will have a car and 90% of the cars on road will have only 1 person in it. Compare this with the Busses and Trains in India (if you call them over-crowded, i would like to remind you the amount of energy conserved from that...) 5. Their people cannot survive without tissues, which they use in Tons per individual (little exageration is good...) 6. And not to mention the Vacuum cleaners v/s desi brooms, and even Petrol run Vacuum cleaners to sweep the roads, Cranes to change street lights (Its as simple as climbbing the pole and changing the bulb in India), and other unwanted power/ Diesel driven machinery to enhance their laziness... I agree that we are ignorant from the outset. But we also have typical middle class mentality to reduce electric bills, gas bills etc. due to which we use our energies more efficiently...
Re: We are Wrong and we need to admit that!
by roger manuel on Sep 25, 2009 11:20 AM
Nandini vinoth, Why dont you go lecture the west, who is responsible for causing the climate change, why are you lecturing to the poor people in india, if our next generation is not developed ( they need energy), the future generations would be slaves of the greedy people who caused the climate change. those who caused the damaged need to pay more, they need to total freeze, all their energy emissions . dont ask me to pay for damages caused by rich, my priory is my next generation. are you paid to make these biased selfish statements?
India is a developing nation. Its precess depend on the utilisation of its resources. West has taken the advantage of resource utilisation adn now they are teaching us. Its our turn now to do progress. Those methods which west has used for their progress, same methods we are using but one big factor is that we have huge huge population which causes the impact. but this cant resist india for stop progressing.American had already blamed india and china that our people are eating healthy diet so there is food crisis in world....such a cheap comment
Re: What Wrong Image?
by dayananda m on Sep 25, 2009 10:28 AM
first India should control the population explosion. Limit the number of children a couple can have. Until then all problems persist..
Re: Re: What Wrong Image?
by roger manuel on Sep 25, 2009 11:27 AM
stupid dayananda, India has the best of population in the world. the most educated, talented, capable youth, one of the reasons India developed is because of its great people not because of the ruling class or the political class. your are not aware of this fact, may be your are a paki that's why you want to find fault with India's population
Re: Re: Re: What Wrong Image?
by Cs Rangaraj on Sep 25, 2009 12:29 PM
Present day climatic change is due to the west's over consumption and exploitation of the Earth's resources. Theyshould bear the most cost in mitigating pollution effects. An average India's consumption is always for centuries has been low. That is why you still find Tigers, Elephants, Lions, Rhinoceros in our forests which are depleting fast due to our own depredations.Let us have pollution control measures and imlement it seriously, but never, never agree to West's howsoever reasonable it may look on the surface. Most of the western countries are boot lickers of US of A. Do you want India also be like that for some dubious seat in Security Council or Group of 8 Chuthia?
