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ridiculous article
by amit on Nov 26, 2008 10:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

the images and content has no relevance at all.

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Re: ridiculous article
by Kishor Pawar on Nov 26, 2008 10:53 PM  Permalink

My dear friend.. your logic is weak..
don't blame rediff for this!



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Re: ridiculous article
by ashok kumar on Nov 26, 2008 10:34 PM  Permalink
it does...the banking system was reduced to gambling..just as in Las Vegas..Wall Street/Banks became gambling venues--with the investors money.
Both are dream worlds..delusions.

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Re: ridiculous article
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:27 PM  Permalink


That is rediff's "art department" works!!

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May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:17 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america

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Re: May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by Steve Andrews on Nov 26, 2008 10:23 PM  Permalink
They also celebrated Id last year, when they lighted Empire state building green.

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Re: Re: May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by checkit up on Nov 26, 2008 10:28 PM  Permalink
i came out of denver airport once and saw a hindu lady distributing hindu literatures to the visitors. in india hindus kill and burn the christians.
but does it imply americans also must kill hindus there? no.
just a case to say how poor americans are spiritually. they are living on feelings and emotions.

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Re: Re: Re: May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by ashok kumar on Nov 26, 2008 10:42 PM  Permalink
what year ?? they were ONLY peacefully distributing literature, you are given a Bible in every motel/hotel venues of immoral acts...no swords held like Islam to convert or bribery to convert---get the difference.

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Re: Re: May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by Guest on Nov 26, 2008 10:36 PM  Permalink
tum sab khana India ka khaoge aur gaana USA ka gayoge.......... Rascals..

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Re: May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:25 PM  Permalink


How about putting an end to it then?

We'll send back all your "loving" missionaries harvesting ignorant souls in India so that you can get a seat on the "magic bus" on doomsday and you send back the chanting fools to India?

Fair enough??

If you have a pair to agree, we have a deal!!

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Re: Re: May be hindu temples and chanting of vedas in USA brought all this problems on america
by Sameer on Nov 27, 2008 12:16 AM  Permalink
Dude, stop venting shit.

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This is nothing more than robbery by the 'rich and famous'...
by ashok kumar on Nov 26, 2008 10:16 PM  Permalink 

the CEOs of these companies and Bushs cronies have knowingly robbed the companies...they should be hunted down and made to pay back the money and jail time. Lets not also forget Halibarton and KBR...

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World will be in peace
by Raees Mohammed on Nov 26, 2008 10:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

now world will be in peace if americans dont have money to fuel wars.

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Re: World will be in peace
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:18 PM  Permalink



We could achieve peace even faster if there was no "fuel" available in "your" countries!!

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Re: World will be in peace
by ashok kumar on Nov 26, 2008 10:19 PM  Permalink
America was in NO position to act unilaterally even before the financial crisis...this is caused by ONE idiot at the helms...Bush--his arrogance and stupidity.

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Re: Financial Success
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:09 PM  Permalink


"3. help the poor"

Can you give a rational explanation to how you will achieve financial success by giving away money with no logical method of return??

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Re: Re: Financial Success
by checkit up on Nov 26, 2008 10:38 PM  Permalink
let me answer. money is in other words, currency. this is suppose to flow. when rich have money they must give a portion to others otherwise it will be stagnant.
India we can see a lot such cases. more than 20% of our population dont have one meal and 4 out of 10 richest persons on earth are indians.
mugesh ambani builds the most expensive house built on earth. but when he opens the wondow he will find people without dress and food.
In america also this happens. economits say, in the current trend money from poor to rich is 4 times higher than money from rich to the poor. so all the money goes to few hands. got it?


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Re: Re: Re: Financial Success
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:49 PM  Permalink



Checkit up,

You are in a serious need of a mental check up!

You are either badly drunk or have a serious concussion!

I am asking for the rational quantification of this concept of "blessings" and you are going on about what "mugesh" sees when he opens the "wondow" when he doesn't "flow" his money to the poor!

LOL!!

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Financial Success
by Sanjeev Kumar Mishra on Nov 26, 2008 11:37 PM  Permalink
hahaahahah...who the hell are you Padree Peter...Your responses have me in splits.

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Re: Re: Financial Success
by timepass on Nov 26, 2008 10:19 PM  Permalink
return is blessings. money not everything, get it.

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Re: Re: Re: Financial Success
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:29 PM  Permalink


Can you "quantify" these blessings?

What if the help you give is considered inadequate and the "poor" actually curse you instead of showering blessings on your "account"??

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Simple reasons..was quite predictable
by Guest on Nov 26, 2008 09:58 PM  Permalink 

Reasons for all these problems
1. High purchasing power as credit was easily available
2. Every one could easily get loan (companies knew that they wouldnt get their money back..but greediness..and Voila!!!)

3. Spending on Iraq war

In nutshell: failed economy
Proven facts: Greediness leads to failure.
- its a game of demand and supply.
thats it..and every other reason is non-sense.

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For an every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
by Ram RamIndian on Nov 26, 2008 09:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

As per the law, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

this is not only for america, but for the whole world.

we hope everything will change, from this, indians ( especially Manmohan singh, aluwalia and chidambaram ) should understand that not to follow america blindly in each and everything.


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Re: For an every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
by ashish sinha on Nov 26, 2008 10:00 PM  Permalink
god knows why we have this inferiority complex.. I have never came across any american persuading any fellow american not to follow indian ways. They know hot to respect.

Sadly, when confronted with anything american, instead of respect... what comes first in our mind is 'so what if its american, ours is the best'.


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Re: Re: For an every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
by timepass on Nov 26, 2008 10:21 PM  Permalink
You mean respect a wrong war, greedy MBAs who drag down world economy, greedy CEOs robbing people of life savings!! India also has corruption but dude, stop worshipping everything American. Even American's do not love their country like you chamchas do.

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I see many bihari labourers in bangalore
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 09:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I see many bihari labourers in bangalore sending 200 rupees home and spending 1000 rupees on MG road and so. same anology for the software laboures of CA or elsewhere in US. may be some exceptions earn more but has to cough up to republican or democratic funds or saibaba mandir fund in US itself.

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Re: I see many bihari labourers in bangalore
by Shashikant P on Nov 26, 2008 10:03 PM  Permalink
shitting in b'glore and commenting on US...sore grapes :D

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Re: I see many bihari labourers in bangalore
by Seenu Subbu on Nov 26, 2008 09:58 PM  Permalink
Why are you in Bangalore? Why aren't you in Tirupati or Guntur converting more people into your faith?

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Re: Re: I see many bihari labourers in bangalore
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:10 PM  Permalink
i do it all over World. not ony in guntur. Because my Lord commanded go in to all the World and make deciples. Tell the God is releasing dalits form the clutches of manu .

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Re: I see many bihari labourers in bangalore
by logicalwriter on Nov 26, 2008 10:05 PM  Permalink
This doesnot make sense. Every person has specific spending habits and it cannot be categorized by region or religion.
It depends on the needs and financial responsibilities a person has. You CAN NOT generalize people. You can find patterns but that does not mean..you are looking at the complete picture..knowing 10-15 people and hear about 2-3 more does not make your statement a proven fact.
If your data is backed by supporting records say if you have measured this pattern for atleast 10 lakh people alone in a specific place and has recorded in a legal format..then only it can be used in the statement..otherwise its just making no sense

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Re: Re: I see many bihari labourers in bangalore
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:13 PM  Permalink
even pranav roys fant-statitics after getiing money from advaani fail.blody catholic sonia became Remote PM after statitistics failed with biggest samples. u r an illogical-reader. lol

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go back to basics
by Vishwanath Tripathi on Nov 26, 2008 09:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I think that the world needs to do a lot of rethinking. We got to go back to our old times. A joint family would ensure that the resources are not over spent, e.g. less number of refrigerator, TV, conveyance in the world. This in turn would translate to less pollution and eradication of the natural habitat. More emotional support, care and respect for the elderly and child care problem solved.
Agriculture should be respected, imagine if all the world starts to turn professional, what will the hungry stomach eat.
Waste less, recycle more. Less plastic burden on the environment will solve so much of disposal problems.
Use natural things stay close to nature, have the science by your side, be generous.
Have jobs close to home and spend family time in the evening.


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Re: go back to basics
by ringview on Nov 26, 2008 10:13 PM  Permalink
Good point about the common usage. I totally overlooked,commonality of resources in my own analogies. Makes sense and perhaps others can take a leaf out of Indian family structure.

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Re: go back to basics
by max on Nov 26, 2008 09:50 PM  Permalink
had bush avoided the iraq and afganistan wars and spent the money on american citizen... they would have been much better now

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Re: go back to basics
by satyarthi on Nov 26, 2008 09:57 PM  Permalink
Really good suggestions.
Innovative ideas indeed.

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Re: go back to basics
by hemang arunbhai shah on Nov 26, 2008 09:52 PM  Permalink
Very Well said. I do agree with the thoughts of the writer. But Million Dollar question still remains as do we have courage to think beyond our EGOistic approach and discuss this matter with our brother and find a suitable solution? What if the brother does not agree with the same. Can we consider that he/she is not our relative but an oppurtunist who only sees his/her own benefit?

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Re: go back to basics
by Seenu Subbu on Nov 26, 2008 10:00 PM  Permalink
Human life has become very complicated. Unless there is a major war,catastrophe of some kind, they will not get into this conservation mode that you desire. Read "Hot,Flat and Crowded" by Thomas Friedman, he essentially talks about 8 billion "Americans".

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Re: go back to basics
by Guest on Nov 26, 2008 10:31 PM  Permalink
My Indian friends and Family(they read Rediff)

Firstly, I don’t want to play blame game so here is what I think, you can process the info here and come to conclusions as Indians are one of the most intellectual people in the world. So this post is for them not for someone to reply saying stuff about my mother or father..! It’s just cheap!

1. why should we waste our time to discuss about the USA. why to become self proclaimed gods who can predict DOOM of USA and that USA will fall etc. it's even immoral to think bad about someone or some country(Our culture says that, remember about the Gandhi's 3 monkeys).

2.If you point a finger at someone saying that he is a bad person then again, Gandhi bapu says that another 4 fingers are pointing at you so look at yourself if you are capable of pointing fingers at someone or not, the first picture in this article is a homeless, we talk about homeless people in USA, how many of them we have in India? Should we point fingers at USA?

3.We talk about poverty in USA, how about poverty in India? Oh ya it’s Britishers fault, all we do is blame.

4.Does India has social security benefits? how about Disability benefits? How about free healthcare of senior citizen? How about free medical care if you don’t have money? How about when you have a cancer they will treat you first and then ask if you have money(My mom had a cancer, we only had to pay 10 percent of the costs as we could afford only that much at that time

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Immigration.
by duraiswamy srinivasan on Nov 26, 2008 09:32 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The mighty falling of USA is just becoz of Immigration the reason is american white,blacks,latinas basically worked and spent money with in USA so it has shines for some time after the boom in IT mostly forigners like Indians chinese etc dominated USA imported more than it Exported also forign workers took away the rotation of dollars from the US economy and transfered to there native countries we can see the incoming of dollars made indian economy to shine and even the real estate boom is becoz of that now the circulation in usa affected it has chian reaction in india also like wise the world over so all nations should allocate jobs to those from among there citizens not to forign immigrants so all countries atleast can have average life level globalisation is an myth it can hurt more than it can gain.

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Re: Immigration.
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 09:41 PM  Permalink


durai-saw-me,

Can you back your hypothesis with some actual numbers?

For example, how much money is transferred by these "non-immigrant" skilled workers annually to their home countries?

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Re: Re: Immigration.
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 09:49 PM  Permalink
I see many bihari labourers in bangalore sending 200 rupees home and spending 1000 rupees on MG road and so. same anology for the software laboures of CA or elsewhere in US. may be some exceptions earn more but has to cough up to republican or democratic funds or saibaba mandir fund in US itself.

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Re: Re: Re: Immigration.
by logicalwriter on Nov 26, 2008 10:14 PM  Permalink
Do you know how much it costs to live in US? you got no idea. Second u can only send less than 20% of your income to your home people that too when you are not spending any thing on yourself..living miserly..and just paying ur rent, food, clothes, bills, taxes, petrol.So that way if you calculate, your so called "Bihari" people are sending more to their home than a person sitting and working hard and longer than (what people do in India)in US.
and by the way R U their accountant keeping records of who is spending how much and how much they are sending to India?
And seems like you heard from 2-3 people and just come up with your own hypothesis..
The golden rule..Always back your claim with legal proven facts.

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Re: Re: Re: Immigration.
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:02 PM  Permalink


Good one Dude!

But it still doesn't answer my question!

How much money do these "American-Biharis" send home annually?

200 rupees is equal to $4! What good is that going to do with the prevalent inflation??

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Immigration.
by sunny sunny on Nov 26, 2008 10:13 PM  Permalink
actually jawahar is frustrated there is no money coming in for churches in india to spread as the money ahs become very crunchy here isnt any income for Christians here over seas fund have been stopped he is frustrated he has huge loss because of this. hehehee

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Re: Immigration.
by jawa on Nov 26, 2008 10:08 PM  Permalink
duraiswamy srinivasan, who ever tauught you that, throw them off a cliff. indians barely send home 500 million dollars in an year. the size of the american economy is 13 trillion dollars (yes, with a T). do the math idiot.

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Re: Re: Immigration.
by Padree Peter on Nov 26, 2008 10:10 PM  Permalink


LOL!

Good one, jawa!!

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Re: Immigration.
by what? on Nov 26, 2008 09:40 PM  Permalink
come on. u think u are better than the law makers of US. they know they cant live without immigrants. if not for immigrants USA would not have existed in first place. and also about spending, these guys spend on things before they earn. and ofcourse, I bet without immigrants they cant even come back to normal.

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Re: Immigration.
by Seenu Subbu on Nov 26, 2008 09:39 PM  Permalink
You seem to be an expert. Live in USA for more than 5 years, and try to send all your earnings back "home". They squeeze money out of you no matter what.You could end up spending 10% of your income on investments in India, that is peanuts. For an Indian population of less than 3 million, that is barely a miniscule percentage of the $15 trillion dollar economy. Immigrants have built innovative technologies that are milking in money for the United States, and it's employing more folks. Yes, invariably more immigrant employees, but they have to live somewhere, they have to furbish themselves with necessities, they travel, they eat out and they dress well. If that is not spending "within USA", what else is?

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Re: Re: Immigration.
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 09:44 PM  Permalink
subbu gaa neeku chal loss jarigindanna mata USA lo. nee laanti hindu murkhulaku tagina shasti jarigindanna maata. neelanti software labourers tinna inti vassalu lekka pettevaale. ekaadiki potundi manuvu paadubuddi. he brought untoucahbitlity to innocent dravidians. cursed be hindu manu.

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Re: Re: Re: Immigration.
by Seenu Subbu on Nov 26, 2008 09:46 PM  Permalink
meeru akkada emi chestadu dongana kodaka? I am not a Gultee, and I have no "chala loss", I am doing fine and thanks for asking.

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Re: Re: Immigration.
by Seenu Subbu on Nov 26, 2008 09:40 PM  Permalink
Oh,btw Latin"o"s, send more money to Mexico and Central American countries than all Desis put together.

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Re: Re: Immigration.
by jawahar peter on Nov 26, 2008 09:58 PM  Permalink
this innovative subbu was dumb ass when he was living in india. he was riding on dalits blood. but in US he is being taken for a ride. so he is crying dongana manu-koduku

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