Selling vegetables, grocerries & other consumer items is not a big task that the economical super giants like Relaince, Tatas, Birlas etc. should enter into it. A small street hawkar can very well sell vegetables and the local baniya or a small shop keeper can suppy all the daily needs. We do not need big business houses for that. I think if they should invest their huge funds in bigger businesses or research projects where they are needed. e.g. we lack in electronic hardware, vehicle engines, aeroplane technology. The big giants should find out the products, services or technologies which India needs to import and should try to develope those things indegenously. This will be more profitable in future.
RE:Why big giants should sell vegetables?
by tester testing on Sep 03, 2007 09:52 AM
"We do not need big business houses for that." . Mr. Prasad Dasharath, who gave you the rights to speak for "WE" ? If you see the responses, 90% are in favor of big retailers. So, please give your opinion alone. No plural please. :)
RE:Why big giants should sell vegetables?
by Great Opportunity on Sep 01, 2007 06:19 PM
You are right Prasad. But Reliance does not believe in research, they believe in looting. In research, they will have to counter Microsoft, Google, Apple, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Sony or such names which they want to avoid. They want to bully the small vegetable vendor and local baniya who can't fight them.
RE:Why big giants should sell vegetables?
by Uday Phutane on Sep 01, 2007 06:54 PM
I view diff. what I saw recently in ahmedabad in one hypermart 3 vegetable vendor's hand carts were parked outside and they were in side buying the reliance fresh vegitables. out of curiosity I asked one of them - and he said I am happy to buy here in A/C and with almost same cost, and I go and sell the same thing in near by Residential area. Even my regular customers are happy to pay me more when I tell them that I bought the vegitables from Reliance Hypermart because of its freshness. Even the vendors of other states can follow the same, why grumble. I was told that even near by hotels also buy from Reliance due to assurance of quality.
We are sick of way these politicians. They are bent on creating illegality to genearte money for self,than legalize the same by misusing the power vested in them. Infact politicians has punchered the the democrecy system thereby filteration of crupt,criminals, Inhuman character getting in the parliament system. Infact Judicial system is showing cracks due to some constitution limitations. We call upon to Supreem Court Chief Justice,that he should take suo-moto notice of this and stream line the Election System. We are yet to see Politicians getting hanged inspite of criminal act. Inspite of scams we never hard any case reached conclusion/conviction.Evidence act too need to be changed this is also being misused. Cour need to relia on other evidences too. Immigartion from neibour countries is creating big threat too. In net shell you will find that politicians are the cause of problems. Infact to remain in Power politician may like to import peoples from across the Borders. Infact all persons who are in illegal colonies should not be allowed to vote,this mean these people may have voting right at its state/village they belong too. For God Sake ibeg of Suprem Cpurt to take this matter and streamline the Parliament system.This is a holy constitution Duty. At the same time pl put cases of politician on first Track for convictions.Lacking this all kind of goondas are getting signals that they can reach parliament and can govern, This is very dangerour process goi
Reliance Fresh beings fresh produces at reasonable rates, till today. We don't know what will happen tomorrow. Therefore people go to Reliance Fresh and buy vegetables.
Roadside vegetable vendors, their Associations, led by vote bank conscious politicians and their parties, are creating lot of trouble for Reliance Fresh, under the false impression that the small vendors will lost their business because of Reliance. I fail to understand if the small roadside vendors also bring in fresh produce, at reasonable prices, well-behaved/mannered with the public, their business should improve and Reliance to shut doors. However it is true if they bring in dirty things, with high cost, and poor quality service, then they will be deserted by the customers.
Therefore their fate is in their own hands, and also in the hands of the customers, but definitely not in the hands of Reliance. Then why all these fight with Reliance?
This is a clear case of political parties trying to fish in troubled waters.
A whole century has been spent by communists preaching the evils of capitalism. We adopted most of their diktats and set socialism as our goal. We did not realize that the strongest force that implements socialism is the dynamics of the market place. Any business ultimately serves the man on the street - either directly of indirectly. If a business has to survive, it has to generate volumes. This is possible only if it is able to sell its products and services at a price affordable to the man on the street. The classic example is the Telecom revolution. Mobile phones arrived in India after the death of communism. Yet the poorest sections of society are also able to afford it (without any subsidies as in case of electricity etc). The service operators and phone manufacturers made these products affordable by technological innovation. Some one who is not able to achieve this will die out eventually (like the Supersonic concorde that died because it was expensive even for the Americans).
If this principle is understood people will not look at large business houses as crooks out to loot them. Today's world is much different from the world in which the East India company looted out country.
i would like to tell that we should not forget the services of these shopkeepers and vendors who are providing things of our need from different parts of earth.,ofcourse for some profit,but nothing wrong in it.What cab be done that we can calculate how much was there previous earnings,how much sell taxes they were paying,what was there income...depending on this we can offer them shares in these retail companies outlet.A law can be passed that 25%share have to be with the locals,that too at face value.
One last thing i would like th tell that the benefit of these chains are that every rupee we spend will become white money,the tax will reach govt and will help us only atlast. I don't remember that before i ever purchased any vegetable and govt got sell tax for that,but from these chains govt get tax and u pay lesser price also. These chains are providing employment to many people and this sector has got a great growth potentials. For other shopkeepers and vendors who often go to protest against these retail companies with lathi(stick) in hand,i have some plans if u are really interested in business,a healthy business.That can change the look of ur entire business as well as ur income.But only if u all are interest in business.... Regards Dr Ritesh Sinha 08203205811
RE:contd.. what we exactly want
by viccy vora on Sep 01, 2007 05:10 PM
Abe Sinha - Reliance knows every way on this earth how to evade taxes. Selling Vegetables can fall into an agriculture income.
RE:contd.. what we exactly want
by ASHOK on Sep 01, 2007 05:15 PM
Reliance is the largest corporate tax payer, viccy what makes you think that Reliance evades tax. They are largest Custom duty payer. They are largest Foreign exchange Generator in Private sector.
In which world you are living.
ask state politicians not to give subsidy to reliance or any one else.
RE:contd.. what we exactly want
by tester testing on Sep 03, 2007 09:59 AM
viccy, for your information, retail sales of vegetables never fall under agriculture income and never attract any subsidy. Please verify the facts before you post. Think man, think. Dont act like the comrades.
i would like to know how many of you people actually buy grocereies from Reliance stores.if you do,you will immediately realise that your local baniya gives you a better deal anyday.what they do is sell things at a few paise less than MRPwhile the regular grocer gives a part of his commission as discount when you shop with him.
RE:reliance
by Ravi Rastogi on Sep 01, 2007 05:16 PM
When u accept loca bania sells at low price why so hue and cry let people but wherever they wish to buy from local bania as well as Reliance Fresh why ban Reliance Fresh as every body has right to do business till it is legitimate and lawful. People will continue to but from bania, street vendors, Reliance fresh only political parties are creating nuisance.
RE:reliance
by ASHOK on Sep 01, 2007 05:08 PM
Local Baniya vs Common man is bench mark to decide whether organised stores like reliance will make a dent on price line or not. If not than bye bye Organised Retail stores.
But it is not going to happen. India is largest producer of Fruits in the world. India is largest producer of MILK in the world.
But we hardly make and preserve things from our Farm / Dairy produce. So that it can be sold thruout the year. Local Baniya has no role play in such big time games. But Organised Retail has a lot to do. Right from Purchase / Grading / Packing / sterlising / Cold storing to airlifting to destination >> Reliance or for that matter Reliance will have a ROLE Play.
Perhaps you have no idea what Govt. is upto.
Also Retail sales will generate Service tax and Corporate Tax and Income Tax and Sales tax. These concepts are alien to LOCAL BANIYA.
Local Baniya generates cash, which is used as black money.
RE:reliance
by Sheru raj on Sep 01, 2007 06:41 PM
Ashok Plz correct Denmark followed by holland and australia are the largest producer of milk And overall fruits it germany and US
RE:reliance
by ASHOK on Sep 01, 2007 08:30 PM
Sheru Raj Visit this site >> Indian Diary Industry >> In 1998 India became worlds largest Milk producer. http://www.indiadairy.com/ind_world_number_one_milk_producer.html
CPI supported China in 1962 Indo China war, they dont want India to progress because they are agents of China, they should immediately thrown out of this country.
RE:leftists are traitors
by AtalBihari Vajpayee on Sep 01, 2007 04:49 PM
Unfortunately our beloved Congressi's are running the government with their support therefore, our central government is being controlled from China
Going through news of several attacks on these retail outlets,i was forced to think Is this the free India? Technically everyone has a right in this country to do a legitimate business.Why rel or big bazaar can't sell things?
Do we not often hear people saying that prices are going high? If there is some way by which cost of getting things can be reduced because in retail shops of newer kind it is very systematic,whats wrong in it? People say that farmers will be ultimately cheated.I am saying suppose u are a farmer,teell me how u can be cheated?They can't take ur crops forcefully?Rather u will be havin time to get better negotiataion for ur crops.Farmers will be knowing that his crops are not going to get stall in his field.He can sell entire in one go,means he will be able to calculate his expenses and then can fix a price for the entire crop,even when the crop is still in field. And the only losers are in this the middle man who are actually responsible(i am sorry
