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Senthil Kumar
Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by Senthil Kumar on Mar 28, 2007 04:55 PM  | Hide replies


This kind of baseless negative article      
makes me sick.

Future looks more positive than ever!
Don't let people tell you doomsday is near.

I grew up in a small village.
My ancestors were all farmers.
I used to spend quite bit time with my grand
parents asking above lives in their time.
One of the striking point for me was, This
generation doesn't know what real famine is.
We hear about some farmer suicide in news
papers. It is nothing compared to famines of
19th century and early and mid twentieth
century.

None of my ancestors had the luxury of eating
food made with Rice more than once in 2 weeks.
Which is not at all true with current farmers
or other poorest people. (I live in Tamilnadu)

The current overpopulation hysteria began in the sixties, when a Stanford ''scientist'' named Paul Ehrlich wrote a book called The Population Bomb. Just as movie Jaws frightened millions of people from swimming in the ocean, this book succeeded in scaring people with its prophesies of starvation, death, and destruction. He predicted massive increases in famine, dwindling and expensive natural resources, piles of garbage and waste, and environmental destruction. The exact opposite has occurred. Fewer than half as many people die from famine each year now than a century ago, even though our population has quadrupled. Many of those deaths today are the result of political action by ruthless dictators and not a lack of food. People in third world countries consume more food calories in their daily diet than at any time in history. And the calorie numbers are increasing every year.

Food: The UN Population Division 2001 report, World Population Monitoring 2001, studied the relationship between population growth and development. Contrary to Malthusian doomsday predictions, this U.N Report stated: "From 1900 to 2000, world population grew from 1.6 billion to 6.1 billion persons. However, while world population increased close to 4 times, world real gross domestic product (GDP) [actual output of goods and service] increased 20 to 40 times, allowing the world not only to sustain a fourfold population increase but also to do so at vastly higher standards of living."

In 1990, the UNFAO Report on the State of Food and Agriculture estimated that with present technologies fully employed, the world could feed 30 to 35 billion people. Roger Revelle, Director of the Harvard Centre for Population Studies, estimates that the world's agricultural resources are capable of supporting 40 billion people. Indian economist Raj Krishna estimates that India alone is capable of increasing crop yields to the point of providing the entire world's food supply. India, it is worth noting has four times as much arable land per person as Japan and twice as much as Britain.

Natural Resources: The inflation-adjusted market price of every major natural resource has steadily decreased over the last century, and it continues to decrease. Due to developments in waste management, the projected landfill waste for the United States (a relatively massive producer of waste) over the entire next century could be stored in a landfill area only 18 miles on each side. "World Population Monitoring 2001," emphasizes that many of the most dire predictions about the consequences of population growth have proven unfounded, and remain unlikely to occur even if the world population rises to 8.9 billion by 2050.


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PRATIT SHAH
RE:Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by PRATIT SHAH on Mar 28, 2007 05:25 PM
i dont agree with the above said statement,.
there is this one ca in chennai who is wiling to share some quality info wid us and as soon as someone ties to do sumthin good. der are critics to prove him wrong...


even though u might have been from an agrarian background... u cannot comment on the current state.. go and look at the peasent in their current state....

and i agree wid the view point that wid and increase in expenditure der should have been an increase in production..



SOLUTIONS:

Use of better tools to increase productivity..

instead of spending 26000 crores every year,, why dont they help them by giving machinery and equipments..

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RajneeshChandraMohan Jain
RE:Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by RajneeshChandraMohan Jain on Mar 29, 2007 01:16 AM

Dear sir,

write in small sentences. we would be able to understand you better.

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RajneeshChandraMohan Jain
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by RajneeshChandraMohan Jain on Mar 29, 2007 01:17 AM

My earlier comment was meant for Mr. PRATIT SHAH.

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Deva Pratap Saathivayal
RE:Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by Deva Pratap Saathivayal on Mar 29, 2007 08:48 AM
Senthil Kumar,

To add few on population. The recent prediction shows by 2016 Tamil Nad population will start decline. Kerala population will start decline by 2018. other Southern states will follow after 2020. Anyway the Indian population as a whole will decline only after 2050. Atleast it is good to know that there is hope that Indias population will decline.

It is always good to have less people around us.

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SSCD
RE:Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by SSCD on Mar 29, 2007 10:32 AM
This person, Senthil Kumar, seems to be confused. The article nowhere seems to mention population as a problem or lack of adequate natural resources. Is he commenting on the wrong message board?

Yes, nature does have everything in abundance. But that doesn't solve problems in India. India has enough natural resources to sustain it's population, but they have to be properly managed. Even if you've enough money, if you don't manage your expenses and investments properly, you'r doomed to run into crisis someday.

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rightinyourface
RE:Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by rightinyourface on Apr 01, 2007 05:13 PM
senthil lost his nuts when his daughter left the house to be a nun

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aus ant
RE:Nature has every thing in abundance ..
by aus ant on Apr 01, 2007 05:19 PM
Senthil Kumar is tamil veerapan.
Tamil s'd be abolished for the progress of the country.
Look at Senthil. He is ignorant 'cos of Tamil.
Hindi s'd be introduced in TN to get rid of ignorance...

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Senthil Kumar
Calculate the Calorie you fool .. Not grams ..
by Senthil Kumar on Mar 28, 2007 04:37 PM  | Hide replies



If Chennai based Charted accountant want
to write about Indian Farmers, this is
exactly the type of stupid article you 'll get.

I being from Chennai, I am ashamed of
stupidity in any form.

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aus ant
RE:Calculate the Calorie you fool .. Not grams ..
by aus ant on Apr 01, 2007 05:20 PM
Senthil Kumar is tamil veerapan.
Tamil s'd be abolished for the progress of the country.
Look at Senthil. He is ignorant 'cos of Tamil.
Hindi s'd be introduced in TN to get rid of ignorance...

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bomi shroff
RE:Calculate the Calorie you fool .. Not grams ..
by bomi shroff on Mar 28, 2007 05:23 PM
If you are ashamed of stupidity than you should be ashamed of your self because you are as stupid as anybody can get.
The above article is just trying to show how the politicians are manipulating the common man and eating in to our country like a virus.
Instead of encouraging the writer,you are just being critical.Please keep your comments to your ownself.As it is the people of India are sleeping and atleast this article is trying to wake them up. Indians,wake up and get rid of these crooked politicians from our system.
ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS.

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rightinyourface
RE:Calculate the Calorie you fool .. Not grams ..
by rightinyourface on Apr 01, 2007 05:14 PM
senthil.....why u r shouting & letting everybody know that u r stupid ?

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Harjith D Bubber
Keeping India Poor
by Harjith D Bubber on Mar 28, 2007 01:49 PM  | Hide replies

Sir, study the education system too and you will find that they are not only keeping India poor but uneducated too.

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Shashikant Magdum
RE:Keeping India Poor
by Shashikant Magdum on Mar 28, 2007 04:53 PM
our education system is designed to Produce good clearks & not professionals.Nobody is interested in brining revolution in syllabus. If we open our mouth in schools then school teachers are bound to follow the Govt rules & regulations....politicianls do not have time to discuss such matters....and the result is we have many Glorified clerk in many offices...

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No sarcasm or hypocrisy please
Why people in India hate each other?
by No sarcasm or hypocrisy please on Mar 28, 2007 10:43 AM  | Hide replies


What about the proactive or preventive mechanism?

I believe Government employees use governance as a pretext for their apathy towards common man.

Actually it is even worse.

Why people in India hate each other?
How to fix or rather prevent this?


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SSCD
RE:Why people in India hate each other?
by SSCD on Mar 28, 2007 11:09 AM
I think there is a painfull, long drawn process but guaranteed to give success: Build the next generation which has character, viz. immense love for the nation, honesty and integrity. The concept of "Vasudhaiv Kutumbakam" needs to re-phrased to expand it's meaning in today's context. And no not just in words but it should reflect in their everyday action. And that too not only our individual actions but also our collective/organized actions have to be a reflection of the firm belief in that grand unifying principle.


Is this possible? I would say YES and it'll be a long-lasting solution.

How much time will it take? depends on how many people believe in it and act on it.

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RAVINDER SINGH
RE:Why people in India hate each other?
by RAVINDER SINGH on Mar 28, 2007 04:08 PM
Dear all,
i would like to add that its not commen people who hate each other but politicians who for their own interest keep commen people fight each other so that their shop remain open.
Gujrat riots are very clear example of this theory.Butcher of commen people is ruling gujrat only b'cos of this policy.
regds/Rp

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trikarn
RE:Why people in India hate each other?
by trikarn on Apr 01, 2007 04:44 PM
cannon fodder. this is the way u get votes
now is is that not more important than development?
think, more poor, means more subsidy, which can be knocked off by all and sundry.plus easily scared people who vote in blocks!heard of vote banks?
well last but not the lease, the LEFT THRIVES ON POVERTY.
ABOLISHING POVERTY WILL DRIVE THEM UP THE WALL!

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KANDASAMY PERIASAMY
Keeping Indian Farmers Poor
by KANDASAMY PERIASAMY on Mar 28, 2007 09:48 AM  | Hide replies

This Article needs to be driven into the minds of every Bureaucrat. Many of us do not appreciate the fact that the country is really run by the Bureaucracy rather than by the Polical System.

One can not blame the bias of the Bureaucracy towards urban centres, for most of them are still sons/daughters/niece, etc of the erstwhile ICS people. It is natural for them to think that people in Dharavi slum need more attention than a Cotton farmer in Vidharba. After all they have first hand information about Dharavi and not of the Vidharba.

The only solution is to get rid of the centralised planning with all powerful Collectors and Secrataries at the helm of affairs, and decentralise the whole governing system.

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Harjith D Bubber
RE:RE:Keeping Indian Farmers Poor
by Harjith D Bubber on Mar 28, 2007 01:46 PM
If you go deeper into it, if Vidharba and the likes were given their due attention, there would be no Dharavi. Trust me, the people that live in those appaling conditions, don't like it one bit. They are lured here with the hope of a "little" better life than in their villages.

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SSCD
850 Crores subsidy for sugar export, why??
by SSCD on Mar 28, 2007 09:40 AM  | Hide replies

As per latest news the union minister for agriculture has sanctioned a subsidy of Rs. 850 Cr, guess for what, picking the tab of transit for sugar export. This is absolutely ridiculous! The sugar-barron is funding, out of the govt-pockets, the rich western-maharashtra sugar lords and for what? to make more money by exporting excess sugar.

I'm not sure if sugar is in excess at all, it had hit a retail peak price of Rs 21/kg not very distant past.

The same Rs 850 Cr could have been better utilized for unorganized farmers in other parts of the country, do recall that farmer suicides still continue in Vidarbha, eastern maharashtra, due to economic reasons!

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Senthil Kumar
RE:850 Crores subsidy for sugar export, why??
by Senthil Kumar on Mar 29, 2007 07:37 PM

850 crores is nothing.
Hardly 0.2 billion dollars ..
our reserves are far greater than 200 billion

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Rohit
RE:850 Crores subsidy for sugar export, why??
by Rohit on Apr 01, 2007 12:16 AM
Why should there be ANY subsidy to Sugar Cane producers? Rs 800 crore can be better spent on building roads schools power plants etc.

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vinay Singh
RE:850 Crores subsidy for sugar export, why??
by vinay Singh on Mar 29, 2007 11:00 PM
Correctly said, sugarcase harvesting should not be encourged more then fullfilling our own requirements as it requires lot of water.

Harvesting sugarcane diverts water from other foodgrain & pulse harvesting.

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vinay Singh
RE:850 Crores subsidy for sugar export, why??
by vinay Singh on Mar 29, 2007 10:58 PM
Correctly said, sugarcase harvesting should not be encourged more then fullfilling our own requirements as it requires lot of water.

Harvesting sugarcane diverts water from other foodgrain & pulse harvesting.

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Vinit Kanitkar
RE:850 Crores subsidy for sugar export, why??
by Vinit Kanitkar on Mar 30, 2007 08:47 AM
Very rightly, the government is looking in for who have and not who don't have.. farmers to be specific.

In Vidarbha to be specific, the government pours water when most of the things have burnt out. And the money will only, it is still 'will', help control on further detruction. It is not helping anywhere to rebuild.

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Gopu Ranganathan
Why the government keeps Indian poor
by Gopu Ranganathan on Mar 28, 2007 05:40 AM

The only way to solve the problem is to interlink Ganges and cauvery rivers immediately to create additional lands of 3.5crore acres.Adopt scientific cultivation and to plant jatropah oil seeds for import substitution of fossil fuel of crude. R.Gopu

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Gopu Ranganathan
Why Gov keeps Indians as poor
by Gopu Ranganathan on Mar 28, 2007 05:36 AM

The only way to solve this problem is to interlink the Ganges and Cauvery at the earliest and create 3.5 acres of additional land by this project.Adopt scientific farming for more food grains and oil seeds for import substitution of fossil cruse. R.Gopu

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