..If some mistake done by them in English they say without hesitation that it is not my native language. And we must understand that Techinical ability is some thing diffrenet from Language ability. What should we should discuss is why our own doctor can not learn the native language of area were they practice?Why our govt allow such doctor to practice? We should learn from British were they conduct Engish ability test for the applicants before allow them to practice in England.
Most Indian engineers working in Infosys, Wipro, TCS, other service companies and MNCs come from small towns. If they are asked to do some low level coding and testing, they are able to do it and they do not have to communicate with anyone confined to their spaces.
Problem happens when they have to communicate to their counterparts in other parts of the world for critical issues and they present themselves so pathetically.
No wonder quality work is not given to Indian shores as only some 10% people(mostly in the upper echelons of management) can speak proper english and do effective communication.
Re: This is correct
by ashish sharma on Jul 24, 2012 04:07 PM
That's right, but mostly in scenarios where Indian companies work on outsourced work. However, in the field of internal innovation and development of indigenous products (which unfortunately is yet to score high in India) such barriers dissolve.
English is not everything. An engineers main capability is to understand the science and technology involved and it's more important for him to know how to execute his work efficiently. Unfortunately, we in India give more importance to English as a language and communication skills in English and individual capabilities. Many national around the world work in their native and regional languages and yet innovate products that are used world wide.
Re: So what?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 24, 2012 04:02 PM
Oral and Written communication skills are most important. Don't be happy just doing coding in your office space./
Re: Re: So what?
by Vinay Gupta on Jul 24, 2012 04:04 PM
then how countries like china, japan, germany, france, russia, italy etc etc could progress? and why slave nations like india , pakistan, africans etc could not do well
Re: Re: Re: So what?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 24, 2012 05:51 PM
engineers in these countries who work with people from different parts of the world communicate well in english(with accent).
Re: Re: Re: Re: So what?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 24, 2012 05:53 PM
much of japan's progress is indigenous, same is true of china's cheap manufacturing sector. thats why english is not important to them and thats why india leads in software services as compared to these countries.
Re: Re: So what?
by ashish sharma on Jul 24, 2012 04:15 PM
An engineer isn't hired for his grammar and vocabulary, but for his coding skills. As long as he is doing his job well the company will grow.
Re: Re: Re: So what?
by Maihoon Don on Jul 24, 2012 05:51 PM
thats the point you are missing. communication skills are very vital to get high quality work done. an engineer who cannot communicate well with his peers across multiple countries cannot produce good work.
Don't give unnecessary importance to English. I think speaking English will not serve the problem, knowing the things, technology in depth and attitude towards solving any problem will serve the problem. Engineer is master in his AREA. Japanese, Chinese are not doing the Survey in their Country that their Engineers are able to speak English or not.
Re: Dont under estimate our engineers only on English SpeakiParam
by Geethalayam Geethu on Jul 24, 2012 04:02 PM
That is good locally...but when it comes to bagging international projects, it matters!
Re: Re: Dont under estimate our engineers only on English SpeakiP
by ashish sharma on Jul 24, 2012 04:18 PM
That's exactly what marketing and top managers are paid for. So why torture engineers.
It is a fact that Engg. students lack enough English knowledge and fail to express. We need to take it in the right spirit to improve the situation, esp. in this globalised environment where English is the universal business language.
