This gentleman has been floating in Delhi's literati/ academic/ jhola-kurta brigade for long. He has suddenly gained unnecessary importance due to the bankruptcy in the INC of any real intellectuals worth the salt. Therefore their 'divine right' to any bakwaas and courting repeated controversy. Similiar is the case with gentlemanly Mr. Anand Sharma. Their utterances would therefore better be left alone and not given so much importance unnecessarily.
Re: Jairam Ramesh
by jaihind on May 25, 2011 03:33 PM
Dear Abhijit, This Jhola Kurta clad person is actually an alumni and there is nothing wrong is what he says. What has been the contribution of these faculty members to the Nation at large and their respective domains of excellence or their fields of expertise.
Re: Christian faculty
by Santa on May 25, 2011 03:16 PM
All students there are from well-off families. None would be interested in receiving your rice bags and sell their faith. However, I'm impressed that you are doing justice to the rice bags you regularly receive. That's the classic management - Rice bag style :-)
Re: Re: Christian faculty
by charlie brown on May 25, 2011 03:41 PM
Instead of rice bags i can replace it with Hamburgers and Pizzas, but still if u r after curd rice and potatoes, then it is ur wish. Happy curd rice management
Re: Re: Christian faculty
by Raghavendra Ravi on May 25, 2011 02:03 PM
Christian faculty are welcome and are respected - but your underlying idea is disruptive and derogatory of Hindus.. not in good taste.. not also in keeping with good Christian spirit!
My comments hereunder are applicable to both IITs and IIMs and equally applicable to universities/self-financing institutes. Stop "blame game", teachers and students are just nut and bolts of the system of education prevailing in India. Is system value based? Does their exist and process and performance management, in real sense as a national policy in the interest of nation? Vonoba Bhave says (see his book on "Shikshan Vichar: Thouthts on Education)"every teacher is a roaming university" "Calorie is understood not by measuring it, but by sensing it", "Education without life has no meaning", and " What will happen to the world if mothers start demanding fees from their husbands for feeding their babies?" Set the system and adhere strictly to it, only merit is the criterion, no mercy to defaulters. What today we see in every field may be politics, education or any other, is the mere outcome of what we taught to our kids. Sister Nivedita has proclaimed in her book published in 1902 that education needs to be national minded and national oriented, but we educate our kids with one goal "education for more money!" Set the system, implement it fairly, and see the results!
I am student at one of the IIMs. I do agree with Mr. Naresh. Politicians are not specialist in the particular area, so their statement is generic. I see point in his statement, when I analyse teaching methodology in my colleges. We do case study, which are purchased from HBS. Most of the time, we are not able to connect ourselves with the case. Our Professors fail to come up with own case study, which suit us. We have relative grading system, students are more focused on getting good marks, then learning business concepts. Professor do not believe in variation. so almost every year same course curriculum is offered, subsequently more or less same question are asked.
One can easily conclude, what is our learning from regular course. IIM contribute to us in terms of peers learning and live projects. But surely not in terms of classroom session. Most of the time classroom session teaches us some business jargon. We have professors, whose commitment level is very high. But overall picture is not very positive.
Re: Our minister is not totally wrong
by manoj bullet on May 25, 2011 12:57 PM
I am student at one of the IIMs. I do agree with Mr. Naresh. Politicians are not specialist in the particular area, so their statement is generic. I see point in his statement, when I analyse teaching methodology in my college. We do case study, which are purchased from HBS. Most of the time, we are not able to connect ourselves with the case. Our Professors fail to come up with own case study, which suit us. We have relative grading system, students are more focused on getting good marks, then learning business concepts. Professor do not believe in variation. so almost every year same course curriculum is offered, subsequently more or less same question are asked.
One can easily conclude, what is our learning from regular course. IIM contributes to us in terms of peers learning and live projects. But surely not in terms of classroom session. Most of the time classroom session teaches us some business jargon. We have professors, whose commitment level is very high. But overall picture is not very positive.
Re: Our minister is not totally wrong
by charlie brown on May 25, 2011 01:04 PM
When it is a globalised world, IIM's should start inviting more guest lecturers from reputed universities/authors from abroad and make lot of comparitive research.
Students should be trained on compartive study of economics and the business strategies adopted by other developed countries in compliance with the laws of the state
Instead of starting a career as a banker, these guys should undertake project work in sick industries and work for the upliftment, advise and work with govt. projects to avoid disinvestment. Only such vigorous training can produce good managers. After all these managers are entrusted to promote the brand image of the organisation where they work. They should also get involved/promote scholarly debates with other institutes (not necessary that it should also be reputed)
Otherwise Muslims/Christians/Anglo-Indians/Sikhs/SC/ST communities will revoke the 1932 Round Table Conference Resolution to seek their Autonomy/Homeland via a Bill in Indian Parliament.
To create worldclass institute there are three basic requriements 1) A visionary who can foresee the future 2) A leader to convert the vision to a mission 3) Non interference of Government
Re: Worldclass Institute
by Duman on May 25, 2011 01:44 PM
Genuine public. I mean those who are really against corruption and give full support to justice, darma. Do you think that we can create world class institutes?
It is even weird to comment an individual in this manner whereas this person has given comment for an permium institue. No matter what, he seems to be senseless !!!! I would rather say IIT's didn't had cream students before 15 years and that is where likes of Jairam passed IIT's. I am serious when Jairam would have passed entrance IIT's would not have so much reservation seats and ofcourse there is lot of change in awareness of premium institues over last 15 years.
India is a country of 1.2 billion. What ever may be the criticism the fact is that 1.2 billion does not supply the intelligentsia that is proportion to the size 1.2 billion. What India needs is Best Planners, Best Managers, Best Executives, Best Politicians and Best Health and education systems. Take the example of political system. Unless you have best quality (even illiterate can think better and it is not to say that literate and educated make best voters) voters and best quality electoral contestants you can not get what a country needs (It is the Humans who are required to rule the country and humans to be ruled) to be happy, peaceful and prosperous not year by year achievements but at least decade by decade scale. Election after election (1950s onwards) every one comment that voters elected the best available politicians/political party to rule (TINA syndrome) and had there been a better choice would have chosen/elected the right party, the voters have been saying all along. This is conclusive proof to say that we have Talented Indians but their best is not good enough to make India corrupt free and best governed country with maximum justice to maximum (at least 95% of population) population. So let us not boast ourselves that we are exceptionally intelligent or intelligent on par with?
Mr Loser, what the hell are you doing, working for some obscure internet company??
If you were so "world class", then you would have been in a Goldman or a McKinsey or a UBS......the fact is that you are one of the rejects of an IIM system.....i'am myself from IIMC and i know how painful it is for people like you to stomach the fact that they are seen as the rejects of an IIM system.......i'am sure you would have given your righthand to be in a big i bank, but you are just an insignificant little twat...
The fact is also that the IIMs hype up their placements, their are many placements in IIMC that would put to shame a 3rd rung B school.... do you want me to talk about the HCL Tech/Patni/Onida kind of placements in your "hallowed" portals?? LOL
Re: Siddhesh Joglekar......
by charlie brown on May 25, 2011 11:22 AM
1st u Prove ur might in a scholarly debate with a neutral judge in India. U will b screwed left right and centre
Mr Loser, what the hell are you doing, working for some obscure internet company??
If you were so "world class", then you would have been in a Goldman or a McKinsey or a UBS......the fact is that you are one of the rejects of an IIM system.....i'am myself from IIMC and i know how painful it is for people like you to stomach the fact that they are seen as the rejects of an IIM system.......i'am sure you would have given your righthand to be in a big i bank, but you are just an insignificant little twat...
The fact is also that the IIMs hype up their placements, their are many placements in IIMC that would put to shame a 3rd rung B school.... do you want me to talk about the HCL Tech/Patni/Onida kind of placements in your "hallowed" portals?? LOL
Re: Siddhesh Joglekar......
by Sudhir Joglekar on May 25, 2011 12:39 PM
Whatever Bogus comments people like you have to say does not affect IIMs , you pl. worry about your own credibility.
Re: Re: Siddhesh Joglekar......
by Aman Sawant on May 25, 2011 05:28 PM
And you need to worry about your credibility....among your batchmates, i'am sure you are a loser....you are not a Goldman banker, are you?
