India is a land where you find so called socialist leader like Arjun Singh, mayawati, VP,Paswaan, Lalu, Mulayumm and so on.
As of now these reservation policy has only helped 20% of their people(who are in upper level of their respective caste and actually they donot need also) The actual needy people never ever get any benefits for any government policy whether it is free distribution of food grain, minimum employment scheme, Quto in Job or professional courses.
These leaders themselves are responsible for slow progress of their society.
Re: Thanks to our Socialist leader
by sam on Sep 11, 2010 07:28 PM
and these creamy layer from so called Yadavs, Backward Class, are responsible for marginalisation of Tribals who really need the support of Reservation policies.. but these influential priviledged parasites like Yadavs grab all the benefits of reservations
Re: Thanks to our Socialist leader
by sam on Sep 11, 2010 07:29 PM
and these creamy layer from so called Yadavs, Backward Class, are responsible for marginalisation of Tribals who really need the support of Reservation policies.. but these influential priviledged parasites like Yadavs grab all the benefits of reservations
Some people talk as tough getting into IIT's is easy.They are not overrated.They definetly cut above the rest.Even here in USA its only IIT's who have preassigned credibility than anyone else... Btw, i am not an IIT grad....just an engg grad from local college doing the usual IT stuff.
Re: Long way to go ....
by Praveen Vishwakarma on Sep 08, 2010 08:34 PM
You can expect a national award from Mr. Arjun singh for such a brilliant idea. It is your hard luck that he isnot holding ministerial post
Re: IIT Madras has improved its ranking
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:29 PM
Hi not sure ,how the rankings are based even iam surprised also we do not know if entire spectrum(all engg streams are ranked). I know for sure Aeronautical is good at IIT-DElhi ,Computer Science is good at IIT Knapur Coincidentally IIT kANPUR Professors are world renowned in Robotics and are working on Chandrayan 2 mission ,professors Ashish Dutta(very good in robotics),Prof K S Venkatesh(Kinematics field) u can access the google and type their names you will get hits for blogs . Likewise IIT-Mumbai and IIT-Madras are famous for a particular Engg stream. Anyway without knowing the details I cannot pass a comment why Madras IIT notched up a few places rama anne syd australia
Re: Re: Re: IIT Madras has improved its ranking
by rama anne on Sep 09, 2010 12:10 PM
Man watch your language ,iam surprised how come Rediff allowed your message ,it should have been filtered off? Now I have doubts is some one in Rediff anti India ? rama anne syd aust
Dear Editor 1.Most IITians stop with B.TECH from IIT and then pursue masters in usa,europe or japan. 2.Some of then do CAT and pursue MBA from IIMS some of them prepare for Civil services. 3.That is why Ambanis want to set up a full fledged university near mumbai that can go all the way to PHDS (research and development) even kapil sibal has recently proposed the same about setting up atleast 15 such universities
4.IITS were set up by Pandit nehru with a vision to quickly produce engineers with a high quality who can then steer many engineering projects for newly independant india (dams,bridges,steel industries ,electricity) with what ever budget at that time was possible. so far as this goal is considered IITS did produce very good B.TECH candidates who then went to USA and further did Masters and PHDS (gURURAJ DESHPANDEY,Indira Nooyi(Pepsi) ,Vinod Khosla(Sun mIcro systems),Rakesh Gangawal(US Airways) and so on etc.
5.IITS were not setup initially as a full fledged university upto PHDS . so the rankings are a whole affair ,from Undergarduate to all the way PHD(Doctoral ) programme.
6.So to fill the gap,and now that Indias economic fortune is better ,compared to some 60 odd years ago ,Kapil Sibal(Govt Minister) ,and Ambani(Indias eminent industriliast) are now aiming to setup such Universities . So Rankings will not shake the B.TECH degree from IITS at all (one can see the canpus interviews at all IITS as a proof) RAMA ANNE Syd australia
Re: re :Most IITIANS stop with B.Tech and shift gears
by pravin sarode on Sep 08, 2010 12:03 PM
IIT is hub of intelligent people like Ratndeep Palshetkar, Kaustubh Agashe, Amol Agashe that does not mean that VJTI students like me have infeririority complex and commit suicide for IIT the other side of IIT is that porn sites are surfed in PC labs Entire boys hostel PC is full of pornsites like 3 idiets movie to kill tempo to concentrate on the studies and fail for ever?
Re: Re: re :Most IITIANS stop with B.Tech and shift gears
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:41 PM
mate cheer up and be poistive it is natural process to grow and mature ,work hard and you will succeed thanks rama anne syd australia
Re: Re: re :Most IITIANS stop with B.Tech and shift gears
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:13 PM
Mate I made point as upto B.TECH level and used campus placements as an example ,that does not mean all other Engg degree holders are inferior no for example I have done B.E at Hindustan College of Enginnering at Madras(first aff to Univ of madras and now autonomous). B.tech from IIT has a lead factor ,but the race is still open ,one can still enter corporate world,show better performance than IIT peer and climb the ladder. 2.One can still write GRE/GMAT and then goto USA univ like stanford,Harvard,Cornell or Cambridge and still can catch up with IITIANS or even excel .
so yes advantage to IITIANS till B.Tech but the race is wide open . rama anne syd australia
Re: Re: Re: re :Most IITIANS stop with B.Tech and shift gears
by rama anne on Sep 09, 2010 12:12 PM
Rediff Editor How is the above message allowed ,should it not be moderated ??I feel sometimes good msgs are filtered and abusive msgs are allowed .Is any Anti india editors in the team of rediff rama anne syd australia rama anne syd australia
Re: re :Most IITIANS stop with B.Tech and shift gears
by Praveen Kumar on Sep 08, 2010 12:20 PM
Is that the relatively less number of enrollments at IIT compared to large number of enrollments in top overseas universities your justification for the research quality and less paper submissions by IITs?
When IIT-JEE selects (as per their hi-standards) top cream of teenagers, why is the regret for the numbers ? What do you think the remaining folk of not so cream JEE aspirants would have done had they been added on the roll, given the sufficient fund provided to IITs ?
People already know for sure that the ranking is purly based on the quality of research and its quantity along with overall paper submission of an institution in a fiscal cycle. They are not talking of any degree awards.
Re: Re: re :Most IITIANS stop with B.Tech and shift gears
by pravin sarode on Sep 08, 2010 12:55 PM
my point is that are the IIT engineers addicted to porn ?
Re: we don't need all this rubbish
by Indian Saint on Sep 08, 2010 12:04 PM
You can stay awya. Actually, we do not want YOUR rubbish. This is a poll of 15000 scholars- not just one retard's opinion!
Re: Re: we don't need all this rubbish
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:46 PM
mate show some respect to reader miryala ,he too has right to express his view/opinion rama anne syd australia
Dear Editor Rankings are based on criteria such as Research and development ,various article published in science journals ,etc. Readers should note the following points :
1.IITS impart B.TECH/B.E education on a global scale at top notch quality(both the faculty and staff) 2.Most students who complete B.TECH/B.E from IITS either goto civil services or IIMS or abroad 3.IITS masters programm is filled up by candiadtes through GATE exam(M.TECH Degree) as some engineering graduates who missed out B.TECH at IITS ,and who do B.TERCH/B.E from other universities now wish to do masters and prefer IITS.
4.The reason why IITS slip ranks compared with Global peers is all good Universities in usa ,japan ,UK like Stanford(USA),Maschutess(USA),Harvard(USA),Cambridge(UK),Oxford(UK),Univ of Tokyo (Japan) etc all have programms that stretch from Undergraduate degree ,postgraduate degree and PHDS and have a very large enrollment for example Univ of Florida at Gainsville has about 20,000 students enrolled at any point of time (all courses).
5.Since the funding is very high and students enrolled in PHDS is also very high ,the research quality is highly rated for foreign universities ,whereas Research and Develpment factor for IITS will not be ranked so high hence the slippage in rankings
6.Rankings just do not start with B.TECH/B.E degree if they were IITS will rank very high in the world as both students and staff at this level is very best in the world. rama anne syd austra
Re: re:IITS as a undergraduate degree are way ahead
by Praveen Kumar on Sep 08, 2010 12:13 PM
Is that the relatively less number of enrollments at IIT compared to large number of enrollments in top overseas universities your justification for the research quality and less paper submissions by IITs?
When IIT-JEE selects (as per their hi-standards) top cream of teenagers, why is the regret for the numbers ? What do you think the remaining folk of not so cream JEE aspirants would have done had they been added on the roll, given the sufficient fund provided to IITs ?
Re: Re: re:IITS as a undergraduate degree are way ahead
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:35 PM
Hi Praveen I do not know about remaining folks etc.All I said is the original B.TECH class of IIT graduates does not stay on to do M.TECH and then PHD at the same IIT or for that matter at a different IIT . Some choose to take campus offer and join a job,some goto Civil services(IAS),some goto USA,Europe (they do GRE/GMAT exams too),some take CAT and will join IIMS to do MBA .
2.Now coming to M.TECH I know a lot of my friends from AP who have done B.TECH/B.E from Vijayawada(Nagarajuna univ),Tirupathi(SV university),prepare for GATE exam and score high percentile between 94 to 99 and then choose IITS to do M.TECH . rama anne syd australia
Re: Re: re:IITS as a undergraduate degree are way ahead
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:21 PM
Hi Praveen Kumar What I said is the Original IITIANS who started with B.Tech upon graduation do not stay to do M.Tech ,and then a PHD from same IIT or a different IIT.As I have mentioned above some prefer to get a job ,some do civil services(IAS),some do CAT (IIM MBA),some goto USA,EUROPE etc and then do Masters and Doctoral .It all depends but yes most of the cases it is like that (you can see all the statistics of graduates from IITS since last two decades).
2.Also ,my observation that M.TECH at IITS (through GATE exam) is then filled by regular Engineering graduates from other Engg collges .Atleast I know a lot of guys from andhra pradesh who did B.TECH from Vijayawada(Nagarajuna univ),Tirupathi(S.V.UNiv) preapared for GATE(exam through out India) and secured high percentile in the range of 97 to 99 and then joined IITS at delhi ,mumbai etc to pursue M.TECh degree.
3.All iam saying is ,there is no serious focus on Doctoral programms (that does not in anyway has to do with B.TECH quality) ,it was like that ,and it is .
4.But these global rankings that Rediff published here based on all factors with R and D weighing in a lot thats all rama anne syd australia
these are the so called top education institutes in india and the people there are the most intelligent in india. imagine condition of other colleges and schools.
Re: these are the top education institutes in india
by rama anne on Sep 08, 2010 12:38 PM
mate Intelligence is everywhere ,it needs to be tapped and encouraged ,and ofcourse concentrated.Yes IITIANS have advantage (a step ahead) but Race is still open for everyone to catchup or even excel better than them and there are lots of such examples too. so keep a open and positive mind and you will succeed too rama anne syd australia
Re: Re: these are the top education institutes in india
by Babu Mandal on Sep 11, 2010 07:00 PM
what the hell is u'r problem mate?? u seem to b on every thread p-h-u-c-k-i-n-g i-m-b-e-c-i-l-e
