Re: 'It's a national shame'
by Madan Kumar on May 19, 2010 10:21 AM
AGREED BUT FOR SUCH IMPLEMENTATION WE SHOULD BE READY TO ACCEPT MILITARY OR DICTATORSHIP RULE IN INDIA. SO CALLED PRESENT DEMOCRACY WILL SOON RUIN OUR COUNTRY.
Re: 'It's a national shame'
by JustToHammer on May 19, 2010 02:50 PM
All fingers are of not and can't be EQUAL for a homogeneous society. Political exploitation on name of religions, castes, gender, regionsl sentiments have led to this situation. It is not caste system to be pointed at. It is the exploitation of politicians in not giving equal opportunities and social justice by oppression with no inclusive growth. Fight for equal opportunities and question for social justice no matter which caste or religion you belong to.
WHY BREAK THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF TRADITION ?? PLEASE FOLLOW CASTE AND LIVE YOUR LIFE ACCORDING TO YOUR POSITION AT BIRTH . DONT TRY TO BECOME SOMEONE YOU ARE NOT
After the caste based census if the govt's policies regarding reservation are based on the population of every caste (higher population higher quota) it will be discouraging for those castes who believe in having small families. This will further lead to increase in population
Re: Caste based census will lead to increase in population
by JustToHammer on May 19, 2010 02:52 PM
That can be addressed through Population control with government whip. Thats not a problem. If entertaining religion, can't it also lead to population increase?.
Now there is nothing to do...This should have been stopped when V.P. Singh first initialized the reservation for SC/ST long back... Once the fire starts in one direction, no one can stop it...Since then only these reservations are creating life miserable for general public. Every one is trying to get a certificate of one or the other kind and get the benefit out of it. SC/ST quota, Womens quota, Muslims quota, managment quota....every kind of quota is there in INDIA. One day will be there, that General person will say "I have 12% quota"...sh** all over...
I think cast based census will tell whether the so called minority is in minority anymore. On the basis of census results, the minority rights should be revoked now on muslims.
I dont think caste based census is wrong. It identifies a set of people lagging behind still and helps us to identify them. How come reservations should exist and no caste based sensus?
Re: I dont think caste based census is wrong.
by ajay pradhan on May 19, 2010 10:00 AM
in fact reservation should be given to those people below the pooverty line. it is rediculous to give reservation for those who are already eligible.
my dear friend, why cant u understand that indians are very sensitive wen it comes to the caste and religion etc. already so many organisations like vhp,simmi,bajrang,ram sena etc are doing the drama for their profit. this census will only add the fuel to the fire and nothing elese. why the hell our goverment want to record the status of the people according to their caste. cant it be done according to the financial condition of them. the politicans are dividing the country. the caste feeling will be more strong after the census and u know we are heading towards a very modern time now and this census will be a step backward. rather they should try to identify the people below the pooverty line and ban all of the reservation based on castism
Re: Classless society
by JustToHammer on May 19, 2010 02:54 PM
All fingers are of not and can't be EQUAL for a homogeneous society. Political exploitation on name of religions, castes, gender, regional sentiments have led to this situation. It is not caste system to be pointed at. It is the exploitation of politicians in not giving equal opportunities and social justice by oppression with no inclusive growth. Fight for equal opportunities and question for social justice no matter which caste or religion you belong to.
Classless society is not possible. No one can have a society wihout rich and poor, white, black, browm. red or yellow races.
Re: Re: Honour killings
by HRM on May 19, 2010 09:53 AM
No initiative had been taken by rediff to protest against caste based "honour killings" other than news reports. Why rediff should b concerned about taking peoples opinion on caste based census issue alone? Mere news reports on Honour killings is not sufficient. Medias should join to -gether for a mass campaign against "honour killings"
Re: Honour killings
by JustToHammer on May 19, 2010 02:57 PM
Law is there to punish honour killings. People kill on caste, religion, region, greediness and what not. If male is killing female through domination or exploitation, are you asking judiciary to punish for killing or trying to erase out total male population to assure safety of females?.
Caste was useful a decade back. Now, it has be purely based on income, nothing else. I was from most backward class and benefited from govt scholarship, and I've NOT applied community certificate for my kids.
I'm not backward in terms of financial status, and let some one be benefited from the noble cause.
My request is still need to identify a better mechanism to utilize the census data. Certainly against the caste based census as it will be used only in vote bank aspect.
Re: My view of caste..
by JustToHammer on May 19, 2010 02:58 PM
Politicians in india ask for votes on name of reigions, regions, caste, gender, handicapts, homosexuality and what not. Why fall on caste?.
Re: My view of caste..
by shashwat kirwai on May 19, 2010 09:47 AM
ur goodness may not be shared by most. Infact it is not. I have seen doctors having interior decoration done in their houses for rs 80 laks but still their children avail caste benifits.
