Writer is right somewhat with his view in general perspective,in India to be sucessfull need to be smart with fluent english with good looks,to fool the the client & boss with big lectures but in actual doing nothing,always busy but actually doing nothing.
Management is actually not a pure subject per se.It is actually a technique to Justify, Manouvre and Manipulate resources in such a way to gain power.It has no direct social objectives.The institutes teach you the jargon and indoctrination to set you out to see opportunity in things you believe in.There are many smart people who are not even graduates but have a hunch for success.This is important.Look at the man who steered Career Launcher.He was ambitious more than intelligent.He had set goals to succeed at any cost.He probablly had passion for what he did and thus he stuck to his own concept of educating entreprenueurship.Many who have done well in life and who are from IIMs will concur with him.Teamwork is taught at home and the virtous get all the backing from all close associates at home,neighbourhood,college and company.Unbiased and focussed desire to gain experience every moment while taking a neutral stand will help you gain top speed.Many of us cant enlist the cooperation from peers and assocaites because we lack in some aspect which others have in plenty.Maybe selfcenterdness,dogmatism or even phobias.The best way is to demonstrate self control and patience and never give up the attitude to change for the better every time you face a setback.World is made of all sorts of people but winning is a habit.iims and iits breed a species who are sophisticated in thoughts words and actions.But the society is waiting for them to dignify labour,hardwork and equity.
Re: Higher Education
by Rakesh Saigal on Apr 14, 2010 11:00 AM
I agree. My own experience of these people are that they are the worst listeners in the country. They stand in a paradigm called "I know All" and hence are not approachable on issues that are not working or not serving the corporation in which the non-IIMs are working as well and have an equal stakeholding as their jobs are what makes their lives work. Mr. Know-it-All will be all ears in his decorated cabin but will m ost probably be thinking of something else while you are pouring out your "idea-of-the-century" to him. After a while you stop following the vision, mission and values of the corporation and start belonging to some group or the other. This is called surviving the corporation and owing allegiance to your wife and children. I often wonder where the poor customer figures in all this jargon infested working clime!!!
The pattern of questions at CL home tests and mock tests is very much tougher than what is required and completely at variance with the actual cat tests. Is this what they taught him at IIM. I wonder how CL managed to become popular, Probably this where the IIm training comes in.
What about lessons on back stabbing, going to the top over dead bodies of ur colleages.
Career Launcher is now a family business and over the last few years had mostly been stagnant. Good people like Chandra were made to leave and good Business partners are leaving them as well.
Re: iim mean indian institute of mental
by suhas deshpande on Apr 14, 2010 10:22 AM
Dear Friend, You are wrong Only strong aptitude students get selected in IIM. My friend who dont know english as he is marathi got selected in IIMA only because of his talent through open category. I know he was playing cards with us and we were having fun till 3 o clock at night in the morning he gave gate exam and belive me he was 4 ranking person all over india so what i want to say only extraordinary students get selected in IIM and IIT.
Re: iim mean indian institute of mental
by Ujwala Kulkarni on Apr 13, 2010 09:21 PM
You are perfectly right. IIMB which ignores even the CAT results and lays more emphasis on past academic performance, is the worst of the lot. Business savvy people, who are also street smart and no their way around in the murky Indian business environment, are what you need for a better future for our industry. There is no substitute for instinct and business acumen. Things like this can't be taught in a B-school. People with B-school degrees can at the most load the gun but can't fire it. One thing is certain that this is India - not US.
Re: Re: iim mean indian institute of mental
by vivek chaturvedi on Apr 14, 2010 09:37 AM
I will like to correct you. IIM B does not ignore CAT scores. There might be a few flaws in IIM Bangalore, but no doubt its a great institution and the people slected are the smartest of the lot. Only that you need to be there to know it.
Re: iim mean indian institute of mental
by Leader on Apr 13, 2010 09:02 PM
CRAWWWW, Dont be surprised if some jackass comments on ur post saying that "Becoz u didnt get into IIMs, you are abusing them."
I had someone do that yday when I made some comment on the post DC beats Blore in IPL
IIMs are producing clever sales manager who are employed by MNCs to sell their overpriced cosmetics,aerated & sweetened water.They donot help Indian poor or the society at large.
Re: What IIMs are producing
by rachana purohit on Apr 13, 2010 08:44 PM
v pay tax from the same high pay for the poor indians to live on the footpath from that tax...
Re: Re: What IIMs are producing
by The Democracy on Apr 13, 2010 10:22 PM
Good Joke.
Here is the reality:
Production workers work day and night to bring money into the company. In return they get very little wage. The big salary goes to so called managers (IIM graduates). They come late to work, give only unproductive lectures, and do nothing useful. So, these managers basically steal money from poor workers. And then these managers claim they pay tax to help poor people.
But you know this is an art. Art of stealing. These people are white collar robbers. And the robbery done by these managers are known as management which is taught by IIMs.
Re: And
by Real Madrid on Apr 14, 2010 09:52 AM
Dear IIMB has come with a management course for entrepreneurs called MPEFB... It is really very helpful, but the fees are on higher side.. Only benefit for you is you can get into IIM campus and feel the essence for quiet sometime.. check out in google by typing keywords as MPEFB
Re: Re: And
by Sachin Bodwal on Apr 13, 2010 08:36 PM
yeah since merit is only reserved for upper castes.. How can someone from so called lower castes have some merit.. Despite all the talks, you people will never let the hatred for lower castes go.
Re: Re: And
by One Liner on Apr 13, 2010 10:00 PM
your argument makes no sense. What Abdul is saying is give preference to only merit. He has not mentioned that Meritorious lower castes have to be kept out nor did he mention that lower castes have no merit. In fact there should not be a question of caste, creed, religion, or language in any of the academic institutions. For those who cant make it to those institutions, Government should provide special coaching etc to bridge the gap!
Re: Re: Re: And
by intel on Apr 14, 2010 04:47 PM
people like you tend to console themselves by projecting as if it was not for the reservation they would've made it to these premiere institutes, dream jobs etc...whole your lives you people will keep giving this excuses to justify your well deserved failures....stop crying and do something worthwhile that you can be really proud of...
A joint-venture (Industries-Educational Institute) called State Institute of Co-operative Vocational Education, Tiruchirapalli located inside NIT, Trichy was started in 1975 offering 3-1/2 year sandwich diploma courses in Architecture and Interior Design, Electrical Appliances and Systems, and Textiles and Fashion Design. This Institute, though started by the State Government died a premature death, thanks to the apathy of Government and officials, just after three batches leaving the students in the lurch. But the courses were top-class with immediate employability skills.
I believe what kills all of us is comparison, and this is what we learn in our schools too no matter be it b-school or just any other school. We were never given a lesson as an individual and top of that, mostly the comparison is done in terms of financial status only. Many a times i see people who just dreamed about something & followed their own vision never actually required such education. We should be imbibed with values and also should be given awareness only at preliminary levels only so as to make proper choices so that we should not regret ourselves before its too late for us.
