First of all thanks Rediff for giving meaningful articles. Otherwise all poltics and sensational news are such a waste of time. And messes with your mind. Its true educated youth in india lack job skills serverly. There is no training at all to do things efficiently, with less time, energy producing high quality output. We should understand the difference between education and training. What is needed is training to effect partucular outcome. It could be anything building footpath, garden to learning to be sensitive to other needs. We dont focus on getting particular outcome that would make our life or other's life easier.
The question on get-rich-fast is bang on target. It is not only disconcerting but it is disgraceful to a culture which boasts of helping imparting wisdom and instilling integrity into ones work and earning your hard day's pay.
Today we come across youngsters who are fed and brought up in formula based education devoid of any thing except memorizing things to score marks in exams and tests. They do not think and apply themselves. And often leave you douting how they were given those degrees. Ofcourse there are exceptions but a rarity ( and getting scarcer by the year).
I often feel distressed and at times utterly disgusted finding out that the resumes are often times doctored or falsified. It is so aweful to see youngsters fresh out of college entering the interview room with one thing and only one thing in mind - money. Ofcourse the compensation is important factor. But it has to be earned. Knowledge, dedication and that passion for excellence seem so passe that at times, we seniors resigned to our fate of substandard man power with even lowly attitude towards work.
The questions we often hear from the candidate are, 'what is the normal hike'? 'DO I get to go to the US' ? 'What is the career growth'? And so on. At times , it feels like shouting at them. God damn it , I haven't offered a position yet and you haven't even asked about the job description.
No wonder the quality of the Indian media is degrading too.
Here we can learn from this man a lot. his focus is on quality.and many people hve gvn good comments regarding politicians. and 1 thng gvrnmnt shld do tht u shld nt allow teachers to take private tutions.
I read the article with great interest but finally became disappointed with his remarks. I do not understand this kind of Indian mentality. What is the harm if a graduate becomes a bus conductor? According to him, a bus conductor should be the person who has 10th and 12th std. education. This is ridiculous!Mr. Purie studied in all his life in the so called 'elite' schools and probably has no idea how the poor and middle class people study in our schools. His remark "the students there were from every walk of life; rich kids, children of bureaucrats, engineers and armed forces, among others. It was a very egalitarian kind of community and everyone was treated equally" is also very interesting. Does he know the true meaning of 'egalitarian'?
Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bus conductor?
by MGR on Nov 17, 2009 07:29 PM
Do you know Highest paid Actor in Asia was once a Bus Conductor?
Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bus conductor?
by Ajay on Nov 17, 2009 08:34 PM
He did not at all imply that "a bus conductor should be the person who has 10th and 12th std. education". His point was that being a graduate should not be looked at as a *nesessary* condition to becoming a bus conductor. A bus-conductor training course might be more beneficial in this case.
Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bus conductor?
by Guest on Nov 17, 2009 08:30 PM
He did not at all imply that "a bus conductor should be the person who has 10th and 12th std. education". His point was that being a graduate should not be looked at as a *nesessary* condition to becoming a bus conductor. A bus-conductor training course might be more beneficial in this case.
Re: Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bus conductor?
by Pradipta Halder on Nov 17, 2009 09:36 PM
God bless you and increase your level of IQ!
Re: Re: Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bus conduc
by Ajay on Nov 18, 2009 02:18 AM
Thank you for your concern. However, I would urge you to take a second look at that comment and try to understand it in the context it was made rather than take it literally. Thanks.
Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bus co
by Pradipta Halder on Nov 18, 2009 02:28 AM
I tried to understand but unfortunately I didn't. Could you please tell me in which country you can take training for becoming a bus conductor or a railway ticket conductor? If you are a graduate then you are fit for this kind of job anyday. If not then you don't deserve to be a graduate.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: What is the poblem if a graduate becomes a bu
by Ajay on Nov 18, 2009 04:23 AM
Again, I will recommend you look at the phrase in question again rather than take personal shots at me. Also, your statements above condescends the profession of bus drivers whereas your original comment was indifferent towards it.
“…it is okay to be in vocational training and everybody is not capable of benefiting from an educational institution. No point being a graduate and becoming a bus conductor.” was possibly the best statement in the interview if the idea behind Aroon’s answers was understood correctly. Aaron presented some great thoughts throughout the interview. That is it.
Re: Mr arun Purie
by kundan pathania on Nov 17, 2009 02:45 PM
Anti-Poor people like him want institutes to charge'whatever is the market' and on the other hand shamlessely impose their children on these very same poor who could not afford 'costly education'.
Re: Re: Mr arun Purie
by kiran kumar on Nov 17, 2009 03:18 PM
If govt cannot provide quality education to people. What is wrong if it encourages some private people to do it. And if these people are competent and worth, let them charge it. And coming to your poor people and costly education point, govt -if having good intentions- can always subsidise bright but poor students.
End of the day, none should be deprived of quality education.
I think graduates have a clash of vision for fast growth, fast money, and higher salaries. Most of the campus interview the discussion is "Hey how much is offered".
Re: clash
by kiran kumar on Nov 17, 2009 03:22 PM
I am not surprised if it is a discussion in a college. Apart from the employer and salary nothing actually makes difference. Students are neither exposed to corporate culture nor do they know what to expect.
Sad part is that even experienced job hoppers also guage the new offer based on the same parameters
Mr. Rao's comment on our education is absolutely correct,he explain a few perspective,there are much more like we all are running for percentage,proper learning and understanding is not there among students,lack of good values like honesty,sincerity is missing,people work for only to earn more and more money only to spend more and more by seeing others.Our education system is corrupt,people who have money can able to impart good education to there kids,Inequality is there which is major proplem ,no one doing any sort of work in removing this because equality give,equal right to everyone,leds to less corruption,less robbery,loots,less hatred,more happiness.Teachers role are more important in building a good student or a human but today trend has changed teachers forgot there role in development of a child,Quality education is missing in India.Everyone is doing their job as "khanapoorti" .Everyone don't want to do their duties specially government, teachers,society,politicians who are building blocks of society.Everyone doing everything for self like animals who also do everything for themself.
