Re: one more thing
by Souvik Jana on Dec 31, 2009 02:21 AM
True... many people are in this Rat Race and put a lot of sweat and blood in it... some of them will come out as successful and wealthy... but when you look back at your life you will see most of the time cribbing as you didnt enjoy whatever you were doing... you just did due to the money you were getting and the boss told you so...
Re: one more thing
by Happy Indian on Dec 31, 2009 07:35 AM
True. People run away to other countries because you couldn't keep up with the competition in INdia.
In western countries, they don't have enough graduates, that why they bring in our people from India.
Re: Still Dont Understand
by Souvik Jana on Dec 31, 2009 02:18 AM
The achievement is his interest in those subjects which he had pursued... and not being sent to do something as decided by the society... get it???
at personal level, you have to commend the guy for escaping the indian rat race. flow of money is much more in west and its easier to get started in life. i think india should adopt the hourly rate system of west and minimum wage system. also I can say in future ppl will think twice before emigrating. if the ratios of wages to living expense and house price etc is good and all foreign goods are available, india will be a good spot. no cold weather atleast !
Re: good
by Dev on Dec 30, 2009 03:00 PM
though the attitude of west is not easy to have. most of the western cities have similar attitude,even towns. so easy to switch to any city. in india,metros are good but what if you live in town ? its a very different picture. miles of difference ! so it will take india a long time.. unless.. a concerted effort is made by govt and citizens to elevate the town living.. make it cosmopolitan, with job opportunities etc.
Reading all the responses to your article, I got the impression that most people who commented had missed the point altogether! They either made fun of the non-Indian systems of education (Indian is best because they make you mug up the most!) or made fun of you as a deserter of the system aka. rat race. Many even pointed out your uncle's generosity. But NONE of them appreciated the fact that you appeared for entrance exams to both schools and did well in both! Obviously, these entrance exams did not test your mugging power, but your genuine interest in the subject. Unfortunately, the people commenting here are generally products of the Indian system, so they like mass-produced material: good marks, entry to 'good' universities, good jobs which earn a LOT of money. It is easier to evaluate a conformist. They are thoroughly confused with someone who has done Politics, History etc. What use are these subjects, they say. These are not 'paying' subjects! The aim of a good education is to make a good thinker out of you, not a money making machine. The uniformity of most of the responses shows our 'uniform' culture. Our education system has made us intellectual cretins, who can't think for themselves! We have to break out of this sooner or later!
Re: Well done, Aruni!
by Happy Indian on Dec 31, 2009 05:18 AM
He studied in India before going there, If India hadn't provided him the skills, he wouldn't have made it to his so called dream world.
Re: Well done, Aruni!
by Shantonu Mitra on Dec 30, 2009 05:11 PM
Rightly said. Perhaps this may be one of the reasons why our country is failing to produce good researchers in any stream. Learning by rote is the norm and every poor child has to undergo the overload of textbooks and study guides without trying to appreciate the real interest of the child. Whosoever, fails to deliver in this gruelling system is immediately branded a "laggard" and is doomed to be a failure in life. Perhaps our job arena is also responsible to a great extent which simply relies on test takers. Alas there is no way out as of now and our children have also to undergo the same grind. Our present education system relies merely on results than on real learning. Our University system of education are still relying on the archaic teaching method as well as processes failing thereby miserably in making all the subjects interesting, especially the humanities ones. The writer had lot much of heart to take such a decision at a very young age of 15 years. Instead of criticizing let's appreciate. I know several of us would have wanted to study history, sociology, philosophy during our study days but the system and societal norms directed us to science, maths, etc. Well done Aruni, wish you all the success in life.
Re: Re: Well done, Aruni!
by Happy Indian on Dec 31, 2009 07:47 AM
Man, there are people in India who go into history, sociology and philosophy and other weird courses. Science and math are not the only option available in India.
Re: Well done, Aruni!
by Happy Indian on Dec 31, 2009 07:55 AM
Who told you that you don't have to memorize in western countries? Certainly not everything but you have to memorize in order to get an A.
Wish Aruni all the best ... Perhaps the time in his life had come when he could make a material difference. So the doors opened. England as an education destination is often very challenging and therefore enriching. Kudos to Aruni for being able to think differently ... A eye opener for many a laggard ...
Re: Interesting Read
by Amit on Dec 30, 2009 01:41 PM
Well, the author as it seems is seeking an easier path, with no pressure, no targets, he wants an easy life, but with all the benefits of a modern lifestyle. Well, all would have liked that if they had some sponsors like his uncle had. He just blames the system of rat race to justify his inefficacy.
Hope he remembers that there's no shortcut to success.
Re: Re: Interesting Read
by Dev on Dec 30, 2009 02:42 PM
success is not always defined by high marks students. many cos. are started by average ppl bcos the high mark student is not keen to take big risks..they want a cushy stable job.
Re: Re: Interesting Read
by Vasant Sivashanmugam on Dec 30, 2009 01:53 PM
It really matters what "YOU" define Success to be.
Making money is success, even a school drop out could make more money than an IIM grad would earn (if he is shrewd!).
Success if is used in context of feeling content with life is a different ball game. Perhaps many IIT / IIM grads might be content with their accomplishment, but this article is about a person who has figured out that the main stream education is not his piece of cake!
Message for the Indian Education system is to make education at high school onwards enjoyable. Introduce streams that are not traditionally considered worthy for livelihood.
Country needs enginners, doctors, lawyers and of course business people.
But it does need Historians, Archaelogists, Scientists (working on Fundemental research),Teachers, Artists.
The proportion way vary from time to time, but there needs to be moderation.
If all qualified people get similar pay scales (to at least meet their standard of living), then we will see takers for all non standard streams as well.
What does the author trying to convey? British Govt gives hefty amount to Universities / schools towards scholarship to other country students and this guy is one of them. What is he going to become after this? A Egyptologist? or a professor of History in UK. This is utter non sense showing a wrong path to youngsters. Not everybody will have an idiot uncle who will pay up for a guy who scored 29 in mathematics. Please stop publishing such articles.
Re: What a non sense - Rediff please be sensible
by Argumentative Indian on Dec 30, 2009 01:34 PM
I guess we need a lot more engineers who will sell soap and insurance. A lot more doctors who will aspire to become IPS & IAS officers.
How will our country develop if people stop taking marksheets as the datum for human life.
Look where we are, Indian soap is as good as any in the world, so are our insurance policies. Who the hell needs Egyptologists or for that matter Indologists. Why even a 12th fail is capable of boldly writing "SANJAY LOWES (whatever that means) PINKY" on all our historical monuments.
I personally feel, whether we take any action against the Child Molesting IPS officers of this country or not, we should definitely send people who score 29 in Mathematics to Rigorous Imprisonment for at least 3 years.
DIM WIT WARNING: MY above post is SARCASTIC.
PS. I'm an Engineer - MBA and work in an Engineering MNC. I hope to give my child an education that she likes, if it is music appreciation then so be it, if it is a BSc. in pure mathematics so be it too!
well.. he could always goto a 2nd rung college..which are good enough as well.. lakhs of students get good jobs from here as well.. top colleges account for very few seats.. he just chose the top or nothing in india.. its a really tough race for the top colleges.. but that way most students would not get into a college..in india..
