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''I was disqualified from the rat race''


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Wrik Sen
Well Done
by Wrik Sen on Jan 02, 2010 10:09 AM

Sir, whatever the boards and universities say caters to a very small part of you.... Something about this writing of yours tells me there is a lot more to you, than what meets the eye. Well done

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shiva
Enslaved?
by shiva on Jan 02, 2010 07:07 AM  | Hide replies

We should not be slaves to money, but money should be our slave! Easily said, as the rich will testify, atleast their families! Similarly, education should give us the break to live a life of our choice, but most are entrapped by what others perceive! If one gets 98% & his neighbour gets 99, it will disappoint some parents!

Thank God, new vistas are opening up, like creative & media. But the herd-mentality is over-powering! Ultimately, it is better for us & others to be a happy employee than an unhappy doctor or engineer! But it is still tough for most to make the choice!

We fall prey to dignity of labour! Countries like Australia practise them. Even PM can banter with workers! Bosses also do! There is no glass ceiling. And one can get by easily if prepared to put an effort! Also like Aruni, one should select contrasting subjects. I know of one who took Economics as the minor study with his main, Medicine & later gave up the latter to pursue Economics in an Ivy League! That takes some courage especially as parents will take it like a slap in their face!

Let us all try to live our life the way we want to! The yougsters already make their choice with regards to partners but in studies, the second chance can be life-long affair! Anyway, it has now become life-long learning & even History graduates are heading technology companies in US! LN Mittal is a Commerce graduate but heads the world no.1 steel company!

It is our passion, ultimately!



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Souvik Jana
Re: Enslaved?
by Souvik Jana on Jan 04, 2010 10:19 PM
Well said...

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Delhites
Think.. think once again part 2
by Delhites on Jan 01, 2010 06:44 AM  | Hide replies

Having myself studied from avg. college in india, I have no grudge against the type of education I had looking at the amount I invested in fees and other expenses which is not even 1% of what others invest on education outside still they cant compete me from knowledge perspective(I am confident).
I admire those parents who value their daughters and do not give their hand to those whose only achievement is "living outside their own country".
My only purpose of writing here is don't blame our education system this is one of the finest the only thing required is little bit of good guidance from both school and parents. I think it is good for individual to have basic knowledge of all the subjects to some level(as we have to Xth std), my advice to parent is don't press your child to prove in all the subjects instead help him to understand the area of his/her interest when he/she is 10-12 years old and later let him/her be more focused on the area of interest but make them realize to perform avg in other subjects.
I will conclude with the statement "you get much more than what you invest in our education system, If you have money then there are good private colleges get yourself admitted there rather than looking for oxford/liverpool/bristol uni.".


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Geo
Re: Think.. think once again part 2
by Geo on Jan 02, 2010 11:18 AM
You didnt make it clear what you studied and what great thing you accomplished with your desi education. I bet you are a bigger loser than this Aruni guy. It is evident from the BS you write that you are a typical talk-too-much-but-incapable-of-much desi.

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Delhites
Think..think once again
by Delhites on Jan 01, 2010 06:41 AM

I have seen lot of student who come for study here in UK most of them I must say 95% are below average sometime I used to wonder how could such a person be allowed to do MBA or Masters in Science or in other stream but soon realised the fact that the only criteria for admission here is money and they have money and motive of coming to UK, some were interested in settlement some have their high marriage prospects value(I don't know the appropriate word for dowry demand) back home depending on their status in UK. To my dismay they all end up doing all odd jobs and reflect very poor country image(they forget to realize that when you go to other country you become ambassador of your country irrespective of the kind of visa you hold), They just count their days to qualify for citizenship and do all monkey tricks, once they get then they remove their mask which they have been putting on for those many days and start covering themselves in suits and designer cloths and claiming back home to have achieved good position in some big firms to irony that they continue to work on odd jobs but some are fortunate to get some administrative jobs because they no longer have any working status issues.
Back in old days I used to get impressed watching movies with the kind of hype created showing Hero coming back after completing his studies (whatever it is), now I know what he/she may have achieved and what they deserve.
Having myself studied from avg. college in india, I have no grudge again

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Dev
break the indian rat race!
by Dev on Dec 31, 2009 09:07 AM  | Hide replies

the ratrace is more visible bcos of the concentration of industries in 5 metros.
solution: divert industries and growth to 10 tierII cities.
if you do nothing and just crib and say..hai R.a.M ! nothing will change !!!
the cities of mumbai,chennai and bangalore were created only less than 300 years back !
I can see now pune and gurgaon are becoming metro-like. another 8 is required !
also keep in mind to keep population stabilised bcos otherwise creation of new cities will have no impact at alllll !!!!!!!!

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Dev
Re: break the indian rat race!
by Dev on Dec 31, 2009 09:10 AM
ideally city should not have more than 5m pop. these metros of 10m,20m are not good. once a city reaches 5m,the growth should be diverted to another place.

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sunil nair
Good luck buddy!
by sunil nair on Dec 31, 2009 07:43 AM

Aruni, I'm very happy for you dude. Hope you enjoy what you do and do what you enjoy.

I sincerely hope you achieve immortality in your chosen subject and come back to help other students like erstwhile self in India.

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Souvik Jana
The point...
by Souvik Jana on Dec 31, 2009 02:41 AM  | Hide replies

When I was working in Australia my boss who was the head of the IT Dept in the bank and probably earning very good ..... But his son was a professional sky jumper ..... and his father (my boss) has no problem with that .... He said that in Australia or US people usually do what they like and not like the Indian System .... where people are bound to do what they dont like due to society and parents .... Hope parents in India stop doing injustice to their children ....

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Happy Indian
Re: The point...
by Happy Indian on Dec 31, 2009 06:57 AM
Its not parents who are doing injustice. Its the society. Its the society that looks down on you not our parents, our parents may yell at us for a couple of days but its the society that will look down on you all your life.

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Dev
Re: Re: The point...
by Dev on Dec 31, 2009 08:38 AM
ur right ..indian society is petty minded. one of reasons why so many indians signed with brit army to fight against other indian. look at caste system,still prevalent now.
we need some new role models. though i dont like G.a.n.d.h.i family, i think Rajiv G.a.n.d.h.i was a good role model for india. who will be the future role models ?

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Suraesh Singh
Some View
by Suraesh Singh on Dec 30, 2009 10:53 PM  | Hide replies

Everyone has different circumstances and different preferences, and we have to take decisions accordingly. A teacher can teach you how to drive but at some stage you have to drive your life according to the road conditions yourself.

I just saw movie three idiots, the core message was try to achieve creativity and excellence in any field rather than practicality and success will follow but, how will you survive until you succeed in your goal ? and what if you don’t succeed ?, you have to plan for that as well. The message may be good for people with plenty of resources and options but not for average person who is on a shoe string budget, because to be creative, you need food in your stomach first and food comes by being practical. I would suggest try to balance, Do dream about touching the sky and make best effort to touch it but also be very aware of the ground on which your feets are and make sure you are standing firmly.

I am not saying this due to some bookish knowledge but it’s a practical experience of life.


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Suraesh Singh
Re: Some View
by Suraesh Singh on Dec 30, 2009 10:59 PM
I don't think, you can gate crash someone wedding everyday to survive without getting in trouble.

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ravi kumar
rat race for you escapist?
by ravi kumar on Dec 30, 2009 07:32 PM  | Hide replies

No dude1 you surely had a one big uncle sitting in uncle sam... well i agree that you chose a different path... but untiull and unless you prove how good you are at what you do ... you ain't gaining respect back home...

There are many folks fighting do-g-g-y style for places in good colleges in india and you guess what not many take a flight... learn to fight it out buddy for whatever best is out there... good luck

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Happy Indian
Re: rat race for you escapist?
by Happy Indian on Dec 31, 2009 07:19 AM
I don't know about UK. But the average salary of someone with a bachelor degree in US, earns around $30,000-which is below average salary.
if he had a bachelor degree in history in India, he would be earning more than average salary of an Indian.

The problem with Indians is, when we are in a foreign country we are happy to work in gas stations, mcdonalds etc, but when we are in India we have this prestige problem.

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Dev
Re: Re: rat race for you escapist?
by Dev on Dec 31, 2009 08:43 AM
but in india gas station,mcdonalds etc the pay is very low compared to similar in foreign country.

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ravi kumar
rat race for you escapist?
by ravi kumar on Dec 30, 2009 07:31 PM

No dude1 you surely had a one big uncle sitting in uncle sam... well i agree that you chose a different path... but untiull and unless you prove how good you are at what you do ... you ain't gaining respect back home...

There are many folks fighting do-g-g-y style for places in good colleges in india and you guess what not many take a flight... learn to fight it out buddy for whatever best is out there... good luck

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