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Career or job: What is more important?


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Ramiah Ariya
Employers are not suddenly
by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 22, 2009 08:52 PM

The recession is making them choosy. Thus the author's lines
"...today they expect the ideal recruits to come equipped with skill sets they would have to otherwise train them in. "
and
"Once the candidate joins the organisation, promotions and entitlements do not come easy anymore, he/she is expected to demonstrate competence and also willingness to stretch beyond the defined expectations of the role to capture the attention of the bosses and the peers"
make no sense.
I like these columnists in India who pretend as if the recession is not even happening and talking about shifts in employer behavior as if they have suddenly become very wise.
If the economy comes back, fresehers will again be hired and benefits once again rise. There is no sudden "shift in the workplace".
All that these kind of articles try to prove is that employees who sought more money and promotions somehow have an attitude problem. It is the economy and market, stupid - it has nothing to do with attitudes. When people have bargaining power, they will seek more.
Just as employees seek from their employers, so were employers seeking more from their own clients abroad. But nobody writes an article that says:
"Clients were used to paying a lot for bad service from Indian companies but not anyomre; things are changing in the workplace"
They don't say that because it reflects badly on companies. But when it comes to employees you can say anything in India.


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sati savitri
he he
by sati savitri on Aug 21, 2009 10:17 PM  | Hide replies

im a houseeife so no problem.

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PRASAD ANL
Re: he he
by PRASAD ANL on Aug 22, 2009 09:25 PM
good job

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akas chauhan
Re: he he
by akas chauhan on Aug 23, 2009 01:06 AM
blow job.

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Sukhmeet Singh
Career or job: What is more important?
by Sukhmeet Singh on Aug 21, 2009 04:57 PM

NOTHING !!!!!

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HRM
tough decision
by HRM on Aug 21, 2009 04:55 PM

a tough decision to choose between carrier and a job.

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Visharad Software
Being happy and making others happy should be the goal
by Visharad Software on Aug 21, 2009 04:54 PM  | Hide replies

Jobs career, money etc. are highly important. But these are means to an end and not the end in itself. The goal is to be to keep yourself and others happy. This sounds simple but is often ignored. Often we get so busy in our job that we forget that there is life outside workplace too. We slog on weekends and late nights. It may argued that if we do not work properly during office hours, then we have to work at other times. That argument is true to some extent but not always. If you finish your assigned tasks in time and work extra hours to do more work in order to keep your employer happy, then from next time, you will be loaded with so much of work that you will be forced to work late nights and on week-ends. If some of your colleagues do not do their work properly and you, out of your own initiative, go on fixing the problems created by others, then your employers will take problems created by others (e.g. bugs in software applications) and expect you to fix all of those in very short time. You will be too much loaded with work. You will not get salary, designation and other benefits commensurate with the amount of work you do. All your complaints will fall on deaf years. Only when you become fed up and find job in another company, then you will immediately get the promise that all your demands will be met. Not only that, you will be promised more than what you ever asked for. But, I believe that once you give resignation, then do not take it back.
contd...

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Visharad Software
Re: Being happy and making others happy should be the goal
by Visharad Software on Aug 21, 2009 04:56 PM
How do I change my display name in rediff? I have made change in my profile. But still when I post messages, my earlier screen name appears.

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bevarsi soolemaga
Re: Re: Being happy and making others happy should be the goal
by bevarsi soolemaga on Aug 22, 2009 09:47 PM
yes even i wanted to know

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Amresh Sharma
Re: Re: Re: Being happy and making others happy should be the goa
by Amresh Sharma on Aug 24, 2009 02:38 PM
What is this soolemaga, something similar to Nainmaga

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man
Money is more important for men
by man on Aug 21, 2009 04:19 PM  | Hide replies


For women, home and husband and children should b more imp than job.

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laxmi soma
Re: Money is more important for men
by laxmi soma on Aug 21, 2009 04:50 PM
are women free servants ??

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Riya J
Re: Re: Money is more important for men
by Riya J on Aug 22, 2009 05:56 PM
that is the irony........
we work as a manager in office and as a servant at home.....
ha.....ha.....ha......!
this is the life of TODAYS WOMAN!


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PRASAD ANL
Re: Re: Re: Money is more important for men
by PRASAD ANL on Aug 22, 2009 09:31 PM
ok you change it you work as a manager at home and as a servant in the office. or demand salary for working in house also for every thing from cleaning to sleeping

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PRASAD ANL
Re: Re: Money is more important for men
by PRASAD ANL on Aug 22, 2009 09:29 PM
government may fix a salary for women to marry/giving birth/to do household duties etc tc in future

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PRASAD ANL
Re: Re: Money is more important for men
by PRASAD ANL on Aug 22, 2009 09:26 PM
if you think like that you ask salary for giving birth children/doing house hold duties and there will be no value for sentiments/feelings at all

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murali krishnan
Re: Re: Money is more important for men
by murali krishnan on Aug 22, 2009 09:07 AM
non sequitur

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Nischal Ever
Rubbish thought process
by Nischal Ever on Aug 21, 2009 02:03 PM  | Hide replies

I would say the whole business system worldwide is a failure and the pressure is being finally thrusted on to the new comers of the Industry which is wierd and adsurd..

Best advise for the young folks in India is go back to our traditional farming and agriculture and trust me there is more money, satisfaction and a good work life balance too..

Celebrate all the indian festivals with fervour and be merry.. I have already taken this path and so could you....

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Duffer
Re: Rubbish thought process
by Duffer on Aug 21, 2009 05:02 PM
Pls do not live in a fools world. Farming is not easy as you may think it may be recession proof but it is rain dependent, the middlement, the transporters and the corporates. Ask a person who has agriculture as his source (sole) of income it demands 18-20 hrs of duty, the perishability of the commodity, the sub minimal price that the farmer gets, you assume that what you pay in the market is earned by farmer is falacy.

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Krishna
Re: Re: Rubbish thought process
by Krishna on Aug 24, 2009 11:29 AM
A little bit of innovation and money investment can fix all this....

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GOPALAKRISHNA MN
Re: Rubbish thought process
by GOPALAKRISHNA MN on Aug 21, 2009 04:43 PM
I love this idea! Sick of Metro life. Please elaborate this.

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Krishna
Re: Rubbish thought process
by Krishna on Aug 21, 2009 02:15 PM
Agreed 100%. Get out of Globalization and usher in Localization.
Nischal,
Pls. write on how you took this path for the benefit of readers.

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anand hr
Re: Rubbish thought process
by anand hr on Aug 21, 2009 04:22 PM
you are absolutely right

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gautam sharma
few sectors offer high package & no career
by gautam sharma on Aug 21, 2009 01:16 PM  | Hide replies

These days there are few sectors which offer only jobs and absolutely no career at all.
young guys who join private banks, insurance cos, call centres & BPO's etc never realise this & are lured by the attractive packages & managerial positions even to a very fresh person. They don't understand that there is nothing great in working with these organisations as there is no career growth.
They offer high package & managerial position
because there is a huge employer turnover in these sectors. They need young & energetic people to work for them and put their full efforts to use their contacts & bring customers for them.Once they get a customer from them they will put more pressure on them to bring in more & more customers & since these type of companies do not get repeated business & needs new customers everyday & so there can't be a long term career in these sectors.
Its really pitty to see guys who have come back in the other sectors such as engineering,
manufacturing,accounting etc to start a fresh
after spending 3 to 4 years in these sectors without getting a proper path for their career growth.
So i suggest youngsters to check the prospects of the industry before stepping in.


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tls mani
Re: few sectors offer high package & no career
by tls mani on Aug 21, 2009 04:21 PM
There is one sector that is always growing albeit in Money making i.e Politics. Join and use your muscle power to corner/threaten/kidnap etc you will be in the right place. There will be no looking back and Govt of India will take care of living expenses and luxuries. You can make fortune in short spanYou can introduce your family members also.

Alround sunshine industry

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murali krishnan
Re: Re: few sectors offer high package & no career
by murali krishnan on Aug 22, 2009 09:09 AM
... and recession proof too

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Indian Guru
Live the Indian dream.
by Indian Guru on Aug 21, 2009 12:53 PM  | Hide replies

Unfortunately India is a different cup of tea. Indian students put all the hard work, time, effort and money only to be fooled and undone by the education system. Except for the few thousand people who manage to get into IITs/IIMs/AIIMS there is not much future left in India.

When its time for jobs, companies start picking fault in you rather than trusting on your abundant inherent talent, this can be solely attributed to the sheer numbers who apply per single posting.

So my suggestion to all the students, come out of the job web and focus on your dreams and intents on what you want to become and where you want to see yourself in this growing India. Give tough competition rather than surrender meakly to the web laid around you. Jobs need to be an extention of your career.

Start globalizing your thought. India and Indians have got a lot to offer to this world rather than providing cheap service and labour to other nations.

Make sure you use the best of your intelligence in building a better world and be satisified in what you do.

We need to build companies and institutions, which can compete with the likes of GEs, Microsofts, Adobes, HPs, NASAs, Honda's, MITs that are built in India and by Indians to provide better options to the world.

Thats when we can say that we are living an Indian dream.

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Kavita Gupta
Re: Live the Indian dream.
by Kavita Gupta on Aug 21, 2009 04:37 PM
Very good points!! However, we middle class people can't think beyond of getting 2 times bread. Moreover, we do have many responsibilities from our famlity on our shoulders that somehow stops our actual dreams and we have to accept some good or bad as our destiny.

Correct me if I am wrong..

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HereIsAnswer
Re: Re: Live the Indian dream.
by HereIsAnswer on Aug 21, 2009 04:59 PM
Hi Kavita,
To put the blame on destiny is not always fair.
The defination of Success is

destiny hard work intelligence= Success

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Kavita Gupta
Re: Re: Re: Live the Indian dream.
by Kavita Gupta on Aug 21, 2009 06:01 PM
I am not blaming destiny. I meant that for we people priorities of life is more than our dreams.

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HereIsAnswer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Live the Indian dream.
by HereIsAnswer on Aug 21, 2009 06:24 PM
Hi Kavita.
I am not agree with you.
I think
Generally we people have 3 priorities in our life.
Family,Work,Dream. That goal is not priority. It is true that there is only 24 hours in a day and it might be an issue but what it really comes down to is PRIORITY So you’ll have to schedule time for all three. Place limits on routine-type activities, so that you can find the time to work on your dreams.


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HereIsAnswer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Live the Indian dream.
by HereIsAnswer on Aug 21, 2009 09:04 PM
Hi Kavita,
These are just the simple rules to live the life which can be followed by any one. No question of middle class, Upper class or lower class.
Second point I am not at all interested in arguing with you. Pl. check your reply where you said
by Kavita Gupta on Aug 21, 2009 04:37 PM
Correct me if I am wrong.
That’s the only reason I made a comment. If something hurts your I am sorry.
Good Bye.


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Kavita Gupta
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Live the Indian dream.
by Kavita Gupta on Aug 21, 2009 07:08 PM
I didn't reply to seek your agreement but I wanted you to think from middle class perpective. That's it.

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HereIsAnswer
Re: Live the Indian dream.
by HereIsAnswer on Aug 21, 2009 01:03 PM
Good Point.

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insan
Re: Live the Indian dream.
by insan on Aug 21, 2009 02:50 PM
GURU, you are really a GURU.

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srinivasareddy kadem
Re: Re: Live the Indian dream.
by srinivasareddy kadem on Aug 21, 2009 04:30 PM
superb speech..

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Duffer
Re: Live the Indian dream.
by Duffer on Aug 21, 2009 05:09 PM
There is nothing called an Indian dream, its stupidity. Its the indians who taught the world that we can do the highest paid jobs in US at the lowest cost in India. Everybody wants to be a hero i.e no toiling or hardwork, everybody wants to start earning money by joining a BPO and the grades and levels at which the BPOs are hiring is falling too low because there are cost pressures in the industry, the need is to recognise how did US become the way it is and why do we want to become like US. Pls think and act and not necessarily react.

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