If you look for "date rape drug" in wikipedia, plane alcohol itself is a most common date rape drug. And the advantage to rapist is a. it legally and easily available and it is acceptable to the victims without any force. Now if the younger generation of girls is allowed to visit pubs or other similar places, they are certainly vulnerable to be victimise. But the problem is a new word "moral policing" has been invented for those who for avoiding ocurance of such situation, oppose freedom to visit pubs. And the most unfortunate part is, one of our ministers advocates "Pub Bharo" in line of Gandhi ji's jail bharo. will that minister rescue the girls from falling into the hand of prey
Re: Safety in your hands
by Pritesh Dagur on Apr 22, 2009 07:51 PM
Oh yes, so now drinking alcohol is a problem? Tomorrow probably wearing "short" clothes will be (I guess it already is) and then, some day the mere fact that we HAPPEN to be women will be! What kind of an escapist attitude is this? Guys, please learn to handle your own libido and act responsibly instead of parroting "Women call this upon themselves"......
Re: Re: Safety in your hands
by Jitesh Agrawal on Apr 22, 2009 08:09 PM
Then dont complain of system when you yourself invite trouble. What is being said is be careful with whom you are dealing and how far you can trust such a person.
Re: Re: Re: Safety in your hands
by saraswathi rama on Apr 22, 2009 09:16 PM
hello if you did not know majority of rapes are committed by known people and family/friends.
Re: Re: Safety in your hands
by VINOD TYAGI on Apr 23, 2009 01:44 PM
What I wish to say is, if you can change the entire society, it's fine. Go to the pub in late nights, wear(or do not wear) what ever you wish. But I am sure you can not change the society so isnt it wise to avoide provovation. Or else what is wrong with rape itself. After all it is personal matter and you have exposed to it by your own choice.
Re: Re: Safety in your hands
by Jitesh Agrawal on Apr 22, 2009 08:10 PM
Then dont complain of system when you yourself invite trouble. What is being said is be careful with whom you are dealing and how far you can trust such a person.
Its defined only in a way where a girl/woman is victim. It must also include the rape by a girl who is raping fellow men in public/society by acting vulgar.
And then calculate how many rapes by girls are happening? The rape by a man, which are in some way or the other is excited by semi*nude women in public, is nothing compared to the damage what these f00l modern women are causing to the society.
Re: Move on...
by Ipsita S on Apr 22, 2009 05:45 PM
look ... don't take the "she asked for it" mentality. In the overwhelming majority of assaults, the victim is known to the assaulter. It has nothing to do with clothes. It has to do with power.
Re: Move on...
by Common Man on Apr 22, 2009 05:48 PM
Mr.Dhananjay Kumar, pls help me understand how is the clothing that anyone wears is the 'true character' of a person is it?
Are we to purely go by the clothing one wears to judge a person.
For instance, if someone wears a burqa, do you think they will be spared?
If someone wears a 100% traditional Indian dress and also traditionally wearing jasmine flowers on her hair and walks alone on the streets of a city around 7 PM, do you think people will fall at her feet and take her blessings?
If someone feels comfortable wearing jeans and a sleeveless T-shirt, does it mean an open invitation to all the males to come and have sex with her????
Say, where do you get this mentality from?
What is the difference between you and that cultural m0r0n called: Pramod Mutalik who physically abused, assaulted and terrorized a group of hapless woman?
Re: Re: Move on...
by Dhananjay Kumar on Apr 22, 2009 06:07 PM
What do you mean by hapless women? Aren't they equal to men? Then why special consideration??
Do you mean that all the men always roam with Ak-47 so nobody can attack them?? Do you mean that men are never attacked or vitimised by women/men?
The purpose of Muthalik and his people was right but the method of passing the message was wrong.
Its high time that a lesson of discipline is given to the upcoming generation, or it will soon be all doom for the society.
Re: Re: Move on...
by Prashanth Krishna on Apr 22, 2009 06:15 PM
If a man goes with his face covered a m0r0n rapist will attempt rape thinking that he is a woman...Si it probably may have nothing to do with dress.
Re: Re: Move on...
by Common Man on Apr 22, 2009 05:51 PM
Why do we then see so many rapes happening in villages? You mean our farmers allow their wives/sisters/mothers/daughters to wear jeans and see-through dresses?
Why do we see house-owners raping their maid servants (sometimes minor girls), do they wear perfume and invite them to have sex with them?
Why do you feel that 'rape' means ONLY sexual contact or an intercourse???
"Rape" is an insult of any form to a woman's modesty.
It has got nothing to do with cast, creed, class, clothes....
It is just a brazen display of 'power' with a loud message:
"I can and I will. You cannot do anything about it!!!"
Re: Re: Re: Move on...
by Dhananjay Kumar on Apr 22, 2009 06:03 PM
My message was only for the girls who first invite the trouble (like the TISS girl did) and then cry like Sati Savitri. They are equally responsible in the crime.
As for the other type of rapes you are talking, I too condemn it and support strict punishment for such people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Move on...
by A A on Apr 22, 2009 08:08 PM
Better direct a message to RAPIST MEN and not victm girls. You are a typical 19th century backward MCP.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Move on...
by Sunny on Apr 22, 2009 06:13 PM
Send it to all the girls schools/rapers and ur relatives rediff...may be many rediff people are victims...
americans can not be ra-ped...LOL...
This doctor seems to be victim...
counselling should be given to rapers...but who knows who is raper and who will be victim???? Rediff do u know???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Move on...
by krishna tripathi on Apr 22, 2009 06:11 PM
dhananjay is right. others, first understand the point and then speak. nobody says that rape is good. we are just trying to "prevent" the rape. there are many ways to do so and one is that dress should be decent. definition of "decent" varies from place to place. dont mix burka with this. in afghanistan, a sari is not decent. in india sari is decent. in australia swim suit is decent. in india if a village girl roams in swim suit definately she will be targetted. i strongly support dhananjay's point...
Re: Re: Move on...
by krishna tripathi on Apr 22, 2009 06:14 PM
mutalik was right. there should be separate bars for ladies and gents. dance and enjoy. why get involved with other sex in an inebriated state? i mean if an exposing girl is dancing with u and both are drunk there are high chances there will be unfortunate events. first of all i condemn drinking. next, if u feel it is part of enjoyment, the company should comprise of same sex persons to avoid any unfortunate incident in an inebriated state of mind...
Re: Re: Re: Move on...
by A A on Apr 22, 2009 08:12 PM
Which century are u in, tomorrow u'll say their should be separate schools/colleges/work places for men and women and then ask women to be in veil. Typical male protection.
