I refuse to beleive that any girl can ask for it. come on if she just talking,wearing probably a short & having drinks does that mean she asks for it-there cannot be anything more insenstive, inhumane & ridiculous than this. Especially when literates justify it.Every one has a right to enjoy themselves though anything a women does in this parochial & bigot society will always be lambasted by so called double faced moralists
Re: who asked for it
by prashant kandpal on Apr 23, 2009 09:54 AM
going by the anupam sharma's views if some day girls decides to wear nuthing to be comfortable then that should also be considered as correct and in their rights.
uppar wale ka thanks karo ki india mai paida ho gaye ho kahin kisi arabian country mai hue hote toa itna likhne ke liye he woo log hang kar dete :-D he he he he ........
Re: Re: who asked for it
by Truth Teller on Apr 23, 2009 02:36 PM
Did you even bother to understand what he has written. There is no way one can justify rape irrespective of what clothes somebody wears. Do you mean to say that rape is the punishment for wearing clothes that are not in sync with the culture of the country?
Re: who asked for it
by RDReader on Apr 23, 2009 06:39 AM
Good Discussion. Hang the Rapist. Or better still, make them live with proportionately crippling consequences for life, say neuter them.
Having said that, these are my questions to women : Ms.AnupamSharma said "I refuse to beleive that any girl can ask for it. come on if she just talking,wearing probably a short & having drinks"..... I don't have any issue with "talking/chatting up with friends", or drinking in your friend-circle too, be it guys or gals , come on...
But, here we go : Even I don't understand how & why dressing up in skimpy outfits, showing ample skin - liberal show of the upper limbs, sexy/smooth abs & mid-riff, highlighting the posterior curves, generous decolletage - is ALWAYS emphatically justified. All in the name of comfort. Should we be led to believe then, that such generous displays of feminine skin, such a well-acknowledged & powerful sexual stimulant in the entire course of human evolution, is made necessary ONLY because of the NEED TO WEAR SOMETHING COMFORTABLE ?? How NAIVE should I get ?
How about an honest acknowledgement once in a while, that yes.... the feeling of sexual power gives women an undeniable high ? That women enjoy men's unspoken/unexpressed sexual attention ? That they enjoy 'WOW'ing men ? What a pity... all this goes out for a toss, and they become Goody-Goody, the moment that such atten gets expressed, something unfavourable happens ?
Re: Re: who asked for it
by Truth Teller on Apr 23, 2009 02:40 PM
You seem to be a person who has longed for attraction from the opposite sex. Wonder how you can justify rape?
Re: Re: Re: who asked for it
by Polisetty Ravishankar on Apr 23, 2009 02:56 PM
Has he justified rape? I dont think so! But he has adequately explained how stupid we can be.
Under no context, the rape is justified, It is a heinous act which demoralizes the whole society. If the guilty is proved of his act, hang him to to death, send the strong message to all the potential rapists. So atleast this scare will divert them from thinking of such uncivilized acts.. Why do we have less crime in advanced countries like Singapore, US, Japan? Because the law is very strict against rapists..they never even think of that in their wild dreams. Indian law is quite liberal and rapists get away with maximum of life imprisonment.. Hang to death or bobtize... they will learn the lesson of their life..
Re: Hang them If proved guilty.
by Kevin law on Apr 23, 2009 09:01 AM
It is correct that the sex crimes does not happen in western or developed countries coz physical relation for them is like having a dinner. I stay in singapore and yes the crime rate here is very low. Mostly coz the punishment is really harsh for such people, but most of the time this kind of crime is not required. The person/persons involved in such act are not hanged here. they are tortured so badly that below pelvis the body wont work for the rest of your life. This way not only the culprit but also other who sees them should realize what awaits them if they indulge in any such acts.
Re: Hang them If proved guilty.
by abdul rahiman on Apr 23, 2009 08:03 AM
I think Mr chaplin has very less knowlegde about sex releated crime in this so called advanced countries,for your kind information these advanced countries has so much crimes against women than any else. I appreciate your demand for hanging a rapist which is the only punishment he deserve and mr Chaplin Islam advocate such capital punishment for such cannibles.
Re: Re: Hang them If proved guilty.
by hasan jafri on Apr 23, 2009 08:44 AM
If all punishments are executed in public presence, I am sure the rate of crimes will come down tremendously. Life imprisonment is the easiest punishment to the crimnals. This way they are guaranteed full stomach meals and good night sleep. We very well know that professional crimnals (mafia dons and political leaders) live lavishly in jails and the punishment is boon in disguise.
Re: Re: Re: Hang them If proved guilty.
by Truth Teller on Apr 23, 2009 02:38 PM
Are you proposing Sharia law for our country. Public punishment is a bad thing in a modern cultured society. Only Arabian idiots can do that.
Re: Hang them If proved guilty.
by shivpujan on Apr 23, 2009 02:56 AM
Very true. Advani only thought of making strict law during NDA regime but did nothing concrete. Congress has no time to think on such problems, only Rajiv Gandhi did something paiseworthy. When we have political parties like these, we are at mercy of criminals. TV media wasting time on worthless issues can use their resources better by raising such issues before public at this juncture when people are thinking whom to vote for.
Re: Re: Hang them If proved guilty.
by sachchidanand dhar on Apr 23, 2009 05:38 AM
Sir, May I point out that when Shri Advani proposed Capital Punishment in "Rarest of the Rare","Heinous" cases of crime against women; it was vehemently opposed by Women's Commission. This Commission's word carries much weight in matters regarding women. Women's Commission argued that if this provision of Capital Punishment is brought about, criminal would tend to murder the victim annd destroy all evidence. As per commission, exposure was worse than death punishment. So proposal did not gather any momentum.
Where are the social activists and media intellectuals like Barkha Dutt who kept screaming hoarse about girls' rights to go to pubs in this country??? Why hasn't any English channel come up with a debate on this issue and its ramifictions vis-a-vis happenings in Mangalore (as is the case of comparing 26/11 with Kandahar and 1984 with 2002) ?? Where is the great feminist minister Renuka chowdhary?? and where are the pink chaddi feminist followers ??
Maybe it was wrong to take law in their hands, but I would rather appreciate if Ram sene slapped my kid if she went to a pub than allowing her to go to a pub and take such a risk as has happened with this victim.
I say, preventing the younger generation especially girls from following the pub culture is indeed a needed step, otherwise (God forbid) many more such cases will come up in this country. This once again proves that neither the parents nor the children have the maturity required to cope with the ways of the western society which they blindly ape.
I also agree with Pritesh Dagur who says that guys shud learn to control their libido, but then that is the fact that guys don't know how to. In fact ppl who have followed this case know how one of the accused has alleged that it is the girl who took the first step. Would he have dared to say this if the girl had refused to accompany them ?
Drink at home if u shud (till the govt opens ladies only bars), drink decently and alone and go to sleep. Forget pubs !
Re: I agree with Mr. Dhananjay
by khushboo hussain on Apr 23, 2009 12:00 AM
Exactly ppl like you should def join the ram sena. It's very easy to justify and say men have a higher libido level whereas women are supposed to supress their feelings about everything in this world. If clubbing and pubbing is supposed to be banned then it should be done for everyone despite the gender. Fingers always have to be pointed at women and this is done by ppl like u. May god give u some sense...amen
Re: I agree with Mr. Dhananjay
by yugandhar gokhale on Apr 22, 2009 09:58 PM
I agree with Aditya Venkat...you seem to be out of sync with the times that we are living in... if pubbing has to be stopped, it has to be stopped for ALL .. men and women... otherwise there is nothing wrong with women going to pubs. But they have to be careful of what they do and how the behave because ultimately, women risk being molested, teased or hurt in some way. Being in a group of friends, having a couple of drinks and enjoying is not wrong, immoral or bad in anyway...But care needs to be taken all the same.
Re: I agree with Mr. Dhananjay
by anupam sharma on Apr 22, 2009 11:22 PM
there is problem with boorishness of guys rather tahn girls in this case.no matter what the problem fingers will always be pointed at girls in this country no matter whose fault.
these socalled Gen X girls roam ..drink..dance..and do allf ilty suddenly realises some one( with whom they are spending night outs ..) raped them ....
useless media will be there to carry these character less ppl on their shoulder..above all some advice...as if they are looking for ....
i am sure these women never ..need any advice..only media worries...for obvious reasons..
people now days forget the very basic and important thing that is to keep trust on oneself.whether ur a girl or guy.no matter how good ur relations are with other people,human minds is very vunerable and unpredictable.one has to use ur own head wisely and live ur life.calmly and cautiously.
Re: Enjoy
by avtar priyadarshan on Apr 22, 2009 07:26 PM
There is something called trust. There are many incidents where frens kidnapped their frens for ransom , killed them for money etc etc. In all these cases, the particlar person fell into the trap jst for the reason that he trusted. By your comments i am sure , u are one of those guys who will simply see his Mother/Wife/sister/Daghetr getting raped rather than fight for fear of getting hurt. And please dont abuse he if u see her enjoying the act as suggested by u...
Re: Enjoy
by Pheni Bajwa on Apr 22, 2009 07:28 PM
i hope u get raped and let me know if u still feel the same way as u mention. invatation indeed. people who lack character can only talk like you do. If you respect the other human being such things wont happen. But off course in India the value of life is cheap and women even cheaper.
