In this just concluded Loksabha election muslims have voted enmasse against the left parties. But again, when you ride a tiger, you run the risk of getting mauled by the tiger. Exactly this is what happened to CPM. Randigram, Singur, Rizwanur case are just incidental.
Mamata also runs the same risk though if she isn't careful enough.
Let us see the minority appeasement a bit closely.
In one of my earlier posts (in a different thread) I discussed the case when Kalimuddin Shams (ex-civil supplies minister) was rumored to have issued 60,000 ration cards to illegal bangladeshis in garden reach area in just one day.
In late eighties, when Prasanta Shur was the civic minister, somewhere in south-west Kolkata a drive was on to clear the footpaths of illegal structures - mostly hawkers' stalls. In the process, that day I'm talking about, the civic staff as well as lathi-weilding CPM volunteers demolished three small Kali and Shiva temples (linga) on footpath. These are created just to get small changes (coins) from passers by - a way of livelihood, like hawking. Then an unexpected thing happened for which no one was prepared. On the footpath there was a tiny islamic structure, looked like some "peer's thek". But with crescent moon on top, and green wall, it was undoubtedly a muslim establishment. The cleaning crew stopped short of that structure, and the drive was called off for the day. Next day it started two blocks farther down, keeping that islamic structure intact.
BJP losers please respect the verdict of the people and work hard to win their trust. Congress winners please do not get big headed, act with humility and work hard to justify the trust people have reposed in you. Please BJP be a good constructive opposition - Mandir issue is not the real problem facing Indians - people have matured. Why don't both parties join hands to pledge an end to poverty in the next 10-15 years, 100% eductaion and an acceptable living standard for the poorest of the poor. Best wishes to all.
Re: BJP and Congress
by indoo on May 19, 2009 03:20 AM
i agree with you. they should leave the dirty blame game and mandir majid game. they should work together how they can remove the poverty from India and can give baic needs to indians.
Re: BJP and Congress
by ram pandey on May 19, 2009 02:27 AM
U right we should respect this verdict. But i am glad that earlier i used to say that what congress has done in last 60 years, now i will say that what congress has done in last 65 years. We are far behind china and other countries which got freedon nearly same time we got. We are in such a bad position that we compare ourselves with pakistan. Though we got freedom but mentally we are still slaves of these GORA people. And this is not our fault as we have been slaves for 2000 long years, earlier there were Muslims then British came then this Italian leader. So Slaveness got introduced in our blood. We donot find ourselves eligible to lead our country we are depended on this Foreign nationalist leader. And Mr. Rahul gandhi our youth leader where was he before 5 years? And i also heard/read few years back that he also got converted into christian as his mother and sister are already christians. And one should not forget if you are changing your religon then you are also changing yours faith. If you are muslim then yours faith lies in Macca and If you are Christian then yours faith lies in Vatican city. Everybody knows this but they used to oppose this argument. But being Hindu also it does not mean that yours faith lies in India. For that you need to be true Hindu. Do not be Hindus like who vote for Congress as call themselves a secular. Its really funny that if you talk about hindu in his only country then you are communal and seculat if you donot. SO I RESPECT THIS VERDICT.
Re: Re: BJP and Congress
by such jano on May 19, 2009 02:30 AM
you are not bound to respect the verdict, only accept it. By respecting it, you may not want to be counted among those who voted for this govt.
Re: Re: BJP and Congress
by anthony gonsalves on May 19, 2009 02:58 AM
check your history books before commenting,China was way before us they got their independace in 1912 ...and by the way India is what it is because of Hindus.....who have a benovalent heart,and they are the true champions,mind you there there are bad apples like you and more bad like the fundamentalists in every religion......but you guys can go to hell,India can live without you. Jai Hind.
Re: Re: BJP and Congress
by Dalit Panther on May 19, 2009 05:40 AM
Ram pandey using irrelevant arguments to trash Sonia's family in true Hindutva style!Voters have kicked you and your communal policies out. Why are you still clinging to it?
Re: Re: BJP and Congress
by Dalit Panther on May 19, 2009 05:42 AM
This is funny.ram pandey says that only those who vote for BJP are "true hindus".When will you people ever learn?
what happened in the small island marichjhapi in 1977? how many bengali scheduled cast refugee from bangladesh was killed by CPM led WB police? 1000? 10000? DO you know about infamous marichjhapi massacre? search in internet.
Re: Tarak chatterjee - answer me about marichjhapi
by Tarak Chatterjee on May 19, 2009 04:03 AM
I was not aware. I read few articles on net after your comments and did not see relevance to the posts i had made. Politics has been / is a v strong money game & unfortunately i hv seen it v closely. A v close relative of mine has been in WB politics. Over lot of issues, the relative and his family members including me, hv been v badly threatened by "goons" on number of occasions. The goons were sent by TC.
Re: Tarak chatterjee - answer me about marichjhapi
by Dr Dang on May 19, 2009 03:22 AM
You mean forward caste refugee Bengali Hindus in CPI(M) killed low caste refugee Bengali Hindus. They did not want to share the loot (WB), I guess.
Rigging the electronic voting machines and then telling that the Muslims did not vote for SP and BSP ... What happened in Bengal ??? Leftist are considered secular by Muslims.
So the Gypsy are selling all False propaganda via media...
PAPER BALLOT SUITS india until the Gypsy venom is removed from India.
i am not aware, outdated one may say, but i knew Mamata & TC used to support NDA / BJP. I remember, even recently before poll aliances, Mamata stating Congress and CPM were friends, she disliked Pranab Mukherjee - what happened to her beliefs and staements or were those part of another street side drama act ?
Re: Clarification on Mamata
by Subhashis Ghosh on May 19, 2009 12:17 AM
Send a mail to Buddhadeb Bhattacharya...He'll love to answer and update you with the current state of affairs.
Re: Clarification on Mamata
by such jano on May 19, 2009 12:16 AM
Mamta is a leader of poor people on bengal. Its her duty to keep people poor and remain their leader. As far as NDA/BJP is concerned, if she can support corrupt anti national elements such as UPA/congress what is wrong in supporting BJP?
Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by Tarak Chatterjee on May 19, 2009 12:29 AM
When TC & grp wins - its massess hv opened their eyes. When CPM & grp wins its rigging ? How do u differentiate, how do u tell that ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by Subhashis Ghosh on May 19, 2009 12:47 AM
I am lying???? I think you only wrote that you were not updated
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by Tarak Chatterjee on May 19, 2009 12:36 AM
U hv been just avoiding the questions - really smart ! Typical Mamata charateristics - lot of sound, no material inside, all lies, all shows.
Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by such jano on May 19, 2009 12:27 AM
the masses can lose track and get minguided, this makes the job of leader tough, but that what makes one a true leader.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by Subhashis Ghosh on May 19, 2009 12:30 AM
I have to say again...some blind men think themselves to be more intelligent than the masses...this is communism as it exists today
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by such jano on May 19, 2009 12:40 AM
why this got flagged?
Let me tell you again, or rather ask a question?
why should a pro-hndu and more capable and full with honest people, BJP should not rule this country over pro-musi congress, full with sycophants, corrupt to core and appeasement politics?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Clarification on Mamata
by Subhashis Ghosh on May 19, 2009 12:34 AM
i am unable to answer...I do not differentiate Hindus and Muslims
Bengali intelligentia, the moral gurdian of bengali society, is partly to blame for allowing CPM money to grow its long tail. On one side it championed the utopian lofty left ideas of communism (I wish they spent some time in a labor camp in China), on the other hand a section of these 'bhadroloks' used CPM for personal gains (where is then the lofty 'social equality'?) Two examples.
After Nandigram fiasco, a large section of bengali intelligentia came out on street and strongly opposed, and that included noted actors like Shaoli mitra, Aparna Sen, etc. Two notable faces were absent - writer Sunil Ganguly and actor Soumitra Chatterjee. Ganguly, a so called 'progressive' writer who spewed venom against BJP, after the nuclear tests and Godhra riot, is always eager to help CPM, and last year reminded others that he is so class conscious that he thinks commoners can't understand poetry. In return, rumor says CPM helps him hide his income and real-estate wealth. The guy pays less tax showing this multiple houses way under fair market value. On the other hand, Chatterjee even criticized his colleagues who went against police firing in Nangigram. Chatterjee, some insiders say was involved in an embarrassing extra-marital case which could have tarnished his career & reputation. The juicy news was about to hit the media when CPM intervened and bailed him out. Another dissenting artist got into trouble with local CPM office who accused him of renting his Salt Lake flat illegally. ..
Re: CPM's misrule: A curse for Bengal (part-4)
by soumya ghosh on May 19, 2009 12:07 AM
this is totally baseless, plz. don't belive in this sort of news.
Re: CPM's misrule: A curse for Bengal (part-4)
by bappaditya on May 19, 2009 12:28 AM
Well here I have a slightly different view point. The Nandigram and Singur is a problem which was manifested in West Bengal but s there everywhere. It is the essential problem of diluting proprty rights. Ia was under the garble of land reforms when property rights were diluted. It was these 'intellectuals' who supported it then. And now, when 30 years later, the tables are turned, the property rights of the poor farmers cease to exist, the 'intellectuals' suddenly wake up! Its too late now. The 'state' now gets involved in private land transfer---from one private land owner (read farmers) to another (read industrialist)!!!
Do I hear the same voice of dissent across India...?
