The secret of re1igion lies not in the theories but in the practice - to be good and to do good, that is the essence of the religion" – Swami Vivekananda
Re: The Secret of Re1igion
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 10:33 PM
Oh so nice... remember swami vivekanada studied bible in detail and inspired by the same. He taught the same in a slightly modified way to suite his fellow brethren in India. He was pained to see the ignorance of local people. Have you read Swami speaking about Jesus christ ? I hope you knw the books. Many critics have pointed out that he was sholar in bible and inspired by it.
Re: Re: The Secret of Re1igion
by JGN on May 14, 2009 10:38 PM
No, not at all. He had no respect for the West Asian Re1igions. Had had said: "When a person convert to another re1igion, we not only lose a follower but an enemy"!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Secret of Re1igion
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 10:45 PM
all g a n d u s respect him a lot but fail to follow wht he preached. Wht is his contribution ? He just lived like a king keep on preaching ... he doesnt led a practical life. He cannot be a model who just preaches but doesnt folow in practice.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Secret of Re1igion
by JGN on May 14, 2009 10:47 PM
Maria Lobo, I was talking about Vivekananda and not your illegetimate je*w!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Secret of Re1igion
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 10:48 PM
when did v not follow him... v followed him thats y our hands are not awash with blood of innocents like u r terrible religion has done.. right from teh beginning....
let it b u r plunderings of countries or the crusade against witches... or even to this day the war on terror? how many such things can u spot in hinduism? u cant! thats the difference...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Secret of Re1igion
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 10:49 PM
that same vivekananda is the person who took parliament of religions in chicago by storm...
Aldous Huxley (1894-1963) the English novelist - The religions whose theology is least preoccupied with events in time and most concerned with eternity, have been consistently less violent and more humane in political practice. Unlike early Judaism, Christianity and Mohammedanism (all obsessed with time) Hinduism and Buddhism have never been persecuting faiths, have preached almost no holy wars and have refrained from that proselytizing religious imperialism which has gone hand in hand with political and economic oppression of colored people.
Re: hmm...
by JGN on May 14, 2009 10:21 PM
Pl download and read "The Necessity of Atheism" by Dr. D.M. Brooks, freely available at "Project Gutenberg" to know more about the NOBLE works done in the name of X'tianity and 1slam the world over.
If you believe in the Biible theory of creation, there is more reason for not fighting in the name of religions. Then we all share the same common ancestry. Even if there is a G0D, he/she/it is like a gardener who likes to have different kinds of flowers in his garden. Otherwise there would have been just one re1igion instead of more than 2000 re1igions the world over. If he wanted us to worship him, he would have programmed our brain accordingly and there would not have been atheists like me. We learn to worship by watching our elders where as even a new born child breathes. There is no need to teach the child how to breathe like teaching people how to worship in different ways!!!!!!!!!! On another discussion board another person had told me that "not even a hair falls from our head without the knowledge of G0d (I doubt whether the g0d has all the time to keep count of hair on my head!!!!!). When you are fighting in the name of religions, you are in fact going against the will of the G0D you believe. We all belong to the same specie called "ho*mo sapien sapien". All other divisions are man-made.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Maria Lobo
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 10:33 PM
worshipping lingam and not killing people is much better than worshipping a corpse killing lakhs of people.... a religion which doesnt give importance to a persons life is a religion not worth following....
JGN, your contribution towards creating awareness is great. We take your comments constructively and our faith in lord Christ becomes much stronger. Criticisms and sufferings are the secrets for growth of any faith.
Re: @ ONly to JGN
by JGN on May 14, 2009 10:10 PM
The same way you cannot vanish H1nduism. Despite nearly 900 years of onslaught by 1slamic invaders and European X'tian colonizers, nearly 85% of Indians are still following the native Re1igions. That itself is proof of the inherent strength of our native culture and civilizations.
Our ancestors did not convert at the point of sword or at the pain of ra*pe. Nor did they sell their "souls" for a few Kgs of Rice and cheap American milk powder. We are proud of our Culture and civilization.
Re: @ ONly to JGN
by Varun on May 14, 2009 10:24 PM
there is no lord christ. That is a fake story spread by paul and fools have fallen for it. Pathetic.
Exit polls among various channels have significant variations as expected. However, there is a remarkable pattern. All the exit polls are predicting 10-15 seats more for UPA than NDA. All pseudo-secular channels are consistent in this. This is statistically impossible. There could be some design and common motive behind this. There is a strong possibility that exit polls have been fabricated to suit UPA rather than being real.
Re: Remarkable pattern in exit polls
by chintan jhunjhunwala on May 14, 2009 10:31 PM
you got it .the ek shit polls do not make sense.cnnibn gives 44 percent vote to ncp cong alliance and 35 percent to shiv sena bjp.other channels give a more balance between the two.same for wherever bjp is strong .in gujarat bjp is projected to get 17 seats while talk with any gujarati and they laughabout this.same in rajasthan.anyway let uswait for the 16.
The exit polls esp for the state of Tamilnadu, Madhyapradesh and Maharastra vary from one channel to other channels almost by whopping 50-60% margin???? Its really confusing???
Mr. Bhim, I have to go now. I was expecting you reply but you seems to be taking long time. I have to eat now. Will you post below whatever you have typed plz ?
Re: Re: @ only to MR. Bhim
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 10:02 PM
Are you MR. Bhim Sen ? I wonder wht was the condition of droupadhi when five of the pandavas were fighting for a place
Re: Re: Re: @ only to MR. Bhim
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 10:06 PM
No need to wonder. You Mr. bhimsen is more than 5 pandavas. Keep waiting for him.
During many ages there were witches. The Bible said so. The Bible commanded that they should not be allowed to live. Therefore the Church, after doing its duty in but a lazy and indolent way for 800 years, gathered up its halters, thumbscrews, and firebrands, and set about its holy work in earnest. She worked hard at it night and day during nine centuries and imprisoned, tortured, hanged, and burned whole hordes and armies of witches, and washed the Christian world clean with their foul blood. Then it was discovered that there was no such thing as witches, and never had been. One does not know whether to laugh or to cry.
Re: Re: hmm...
by Varun on May 14, 2009 10:25 PM
You mean values copied from religions all over the world ?. why learn from the fake. Why not learn from the original ?.
Re: Re: hmm...
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 10:10 PM
what values are u talking about? if u look around xtian countries depended completely on plundering other countries... like spain plundered mexico.. i dont have to say about how mexico is.. in teh same way xtian countries plundered india... if u r religion was really a religion of love then y send army battalions? not just send missionaries? xtian counries have depleted india...
Re: Re: hmm...
by JGN on May 14, 2009 10:12 PM
There are no values in B1ble. There is no other book in the world that contains as many 3x stories as does the B1ble. Have you heard of the story of Lot and his dau*ghters??
Re: hmm...
by JGN on May 14, 2009 09:47 PM
A divorced Chri_stian wom*an cannot receive “sacrament” (bread and wine representing the body and blood of Jesus) but there is no such restriction for a divorced man.
A Chriistian wom*an has no right in the property of her parents. Mary Roy (mother of famous author Arundhati Roy) had to fight till the SC of India for enforcing her rights over parental property.
The Churches take a portion of "dowry" as their share. A Nun has to give her share of parental property to the Churches but if she leaves the Convent for any reason the Churches do not give that back. What a great egalaterian Re1igion!!!!
Re: @ Maria Lobo - can you deny this??
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:46 PM
All that you said is new to me. You knw more than what I knw about Christainity in India
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Maria Lobo - can you deny this??
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 10:00 PM
I would say, h i n d u s shud feel proud that their names are kept for C h r i s t a i n s which proves proudness of C h r i s t a i n s in h i n d u culture. Also naming of their children is p a r e n t s choice, you really cant help or change that choice. I am grateful that I have a w e s t e r n name.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Maria Lobo - can you deny this??
by Varun on May 14, 2009 10:26 PM
The foreigners are sorry that wannabes like you have their name. Pathetic you. Neither here nor there.
