Cant we call ourselves fools when all the political parties r now wooing each other. Now Cong and BJP should shake hands with each other and join to form the Govt and pass a resolution with their combined force to ensure that left is no longer a national party and regional parties should not contest elections to the parliament.
Re: NDA will get 218 seats, says BJP-----Voters of this country-F
by Dileep Kumar on May 14, 2009 09:21 PM
Great! one person had the courage to admit. I belong to a state which proved has highest literacy. The Kerala formula will try to be implied by the left now. Left now supported the UPA now Congress will support the third fromt to form Govt and keep BJP away. All Hindus are fools. I agree
Re: Re: NDA will get 218 seats, says BJP-----Voters of this count
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 09:39 PM
is that the reason y as soon as a person who finishes his graduation runs out of u r state? to work inbanglaore or chennai or hyderabad? or other metros?
H1nduism is the oldest and the continuous surviving faith and belief system of the world. Convincing someone on the subject of Religion when he/she has already formed a low opinion is very difficult task, that to while blogging. But i can try to answer few question if you want?
Re: For Maria Lobo
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:18 PM
I have few points to make Mr. Bhim. First of all I respect you a lot and never intent to hurt you. When I see hinduism from a laymans angle I see lot of complexity and confusion and chaos. There lacks order and direction. The facts and wisdom are scattered around and fractured in space and also in different times. Many things are relevant today but many practices are questionable. I do have interest in hindusim as a philosophy but not as a way of living because, in practical living it has miserably failed to eliminate inequality and injustice. During the course of evolution hinduism has traced multi-directions and lead us to nowhere. No one likes confusion and complexity. Thats why we see Iskon picking up just Krishna and studying him in depth and formed a elite sect. I will follow it up after you reply. Thanks Bhim.
Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 09:25 PM
inequality is there in all religions... FYI dalits who are converted to xtian are still being discriminated by xtians themselves.. which arundati roy pointed out.. india is a poor country thats y there are problems... the inequality u r talking about is something which is slowly but surely going away.. especially in cities there is no untouchability and other such evil thing... and also remember wherever education has progressed there untouchability has gone away....
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 09:37 PM
its nothing related to education system... its about thinking thats all... where did english education system crop up in between?i thot v r deb8ing about religions?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:40 PM
Education has shaped our thinking. We think western way, we look everything from western platform - appreciating and even criticizing.
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Pradeep Ramachandra on May 14, 2009 09:44 PM
Dont forget whites have done lot of racial discrimination, this is much more than what uppercaste did to lower caste in India. Because in India untouchablility was there, slavery was not there based on colour. Also we too had bonded labour system, but it was more to do with debt rather than skin colour
Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 09:21 PM
Inequality and injustice is a social issue and not related to Hindusim. Please stop marketing Jesus.
Inequality and injustice will exist till mankind exist. No Jesus can fix this.
Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:24 PM
you are right Desert Fox. I cant have dialogue with you. sorry. You can hold a knife or a thrishul and create a violence.
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by iamhere on May 14, 2009 09:27 PM
what violence r u talking about? history stands proof that only two religions are there which went about plundering other countries religion of peace and religion of love.... izzlam and christianity... if i talk about the deaths carried out in the name of religion by xtians rediff harddisk will crash...
Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 09:27 PM
What rubbish. What about Portugese means in Goa ? BTW, RSS doesn't use knife or Trishul. They have something else.
Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Vivek Heg on May 14, 2009 09:29 PM
Maria Lobo - None of the religion addresses the complexity of life. In fact, your dear Christianity makes so simple that people are so confused with the book that does not reflect present day reality. If anything Hindusim is much close to realities of complex life than any other religion. Inequality is inherent human selfish behavior. It takes time. Wake up and smell the roses!
Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Ajay Acharya on May 14, 2009 09:49 PM
If Jesus were born in India, bet no one would have even nailed him when he claimed that he was the son of God, that is Hindu tolerance for you. Because he was born in that God foresaken region, he was crucified and that led to nearly half of the World's problems today.... his followers.
About the outcome of party positions in the just concluded 2009 poll different surveys were made public through the Media. What is astonishing is that almost all media also stated that 2004 poll predictions by exit polls went wrong!!
Re: Accuracy of projections of Poll Results by Surveys
by JGN on May 14, 2009 09:05 PM
The predictions can never be accurate. Wait for the actual results.
Re: Re: Accuracy of projections of Poll Results by Surveys
by Anumakonda JAGADEESH on May 14, 2009 09:56 PM
I know that. My point is why everybody is supplementing the news that 2004 election exit polls were wrong?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Accuracy of projections of Poll Results by Survey
by Dileep Kumar on May 14, 2009 09:23 PM
yes The arrogance of Congress should be defeated.
Re: Accuracy of projections of Poll Results by Surveys
by Ashish on May 14, 2009 09:19 PM
In a large country like ours it is very difficult to predict.Here sampling is not always correct, without correct sampling forecast is impossible.1% difference in sampling may cause a drastic change.
I do not believe in the dogmas of any Re1igion. Can any one convert me to any other Re1igion? If they are successful, I will spend the rest of my life for the propagation of that Re1igion. Any takers??
Re: Re: A Challenge to the Missionaries
by JGN on May 14, 2009 09:16 PM
I am not asking your opinion about me. Try with me instead of the illiterate tribals/dalis of MP or Orissa.
Re: Re: A Challenge to the Missionaries
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 09:12 PM
The fact is that your ancestors were mentally retarded to understand Hinduism. There could be other well known brutal reasons for your conversion as well.
Re: A Challenge to the Missionaries
by Ashish on May 14, 2009 09:24 PM
Sorry, you will find no takers.Religion do not need your propagation.You learn and practice for your own good.
Re: Re: A Challenge to the Missionaries
by JGN on May 14, 2009 09:31 PM
Then why the Missionary beg*gars are bef00ling the tribals/dalits of MP and Orissa in the name of non-existent g0ds and heaven?? Why don't they try their tricks with persons like me?
Re: Re: Re: A Challenge to the Missionaries
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 09:40 PM
BTW missionaries have started funding Naxals all over India and terrorists in North East.
In India if a Party talks about Hindus and their interests it is communal and if other party talks about muslims/minorities ans their interests then it is secular. This is the main reason India will always be backward.We have only a name left for us called HINDUSTAN Minus a proper status for Hindus
Re: PITY IN INDIA
by Pankaj Singh on May 14, 2009 09:08 PM
It is true true and only true. If a leader openly favors a religion, they call them self secular. If they want to do everything for a single religion they want to be called secular. They favor majority of poor in the name of minors, took their vote and leave them where they are. Hence 60 years. No, all poor fellows , minority sectors and pretended secular party follower, listen: Only BJP can save the sinking world of India. See how Nifty bounced up just on a notion of BJP coming and jitters after exit polls. What happened by mistake should be admitted and we all should join hand with BJP for a five year with majority so that a firm, clear cut, open, developing government may bring peace to India.
Re: For Maria Lobo
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:00 PM
Oh yeah BHIM, Thanks very much. I am fine. Will definitely see those videos. must be produced in the west. ISnt it. Anyway they are worth watching. Keep informing me abt more evidences to prove rama, krishna, hanuman... not to forget father of 100 children dritharastra and gandhari.
Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by JGN on May 14, 2009 09:03 PM
Maria Lobo, pl provide us proof for the vrgn birth also. Or is it that she cheated her hus and then told him that it was the trick of some "spirit"??
Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:07 PM
I am not into proving business. My short life wont permit me to do that. I had a healthy discussion with Mr. Bhim. Why do u want to poke your head here MR. JGN ? You are found 24 x 7 in rediff column. Are you working in rediff ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Maria Lobo on May 14, 2009 09:12 PM
Dont see below... see up and staright into my eyes and talk Mr. JGN. You abuse women and also talk vulgar.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by JGN on May 14, 2009 09:17 PM
Maria Lobo, Are you also into the same business?? I know there many in Goa supplying gir1s to foreign tourists.
Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 09:07 PM
The fact is that your ancestors were mentally retarded to understand Hindusim. Or they refused to die and got converted. There could also be other brutal facts.
Re: Re: For Maria Lobo
by Desert Fox on May 14, 2009 09:09 PM
The fact is that your ancestors were mentally retarded to understand Hinduism. There could be other well known brutal reasons for your conversion as well.
When agricultural production is less and industrial production is static the best way to engage people is circket-one analysit says. Exit polls exists for a similar purpose. What the need of the time is a Good Governance so that the hard working majority of Indians do not go waste.
congi support from money laundering ELM media. congi support from money mongers, drugists, corrupts who stashed money in tax havens. congi puppet president. congi CEC
fair play election should lead BJP to power, but the list worries will try their max to make congi to power!
Re: Re: some worries...
by ks on May 14, 2009 08:53 PM
the ELM clearly played their cards by monopolizing in India. Now no one is there to expose their acts!
I was amused to read the projections of results of 2009 poll. All newspapers carried the projections by various surveys and all newspapers reported that the earlier exit polls in 2004 went wrong. First of all why should these surveys be made public when there is vast element of doubt? Having published why should they say the exit polls are prone to large deviations? Who is fooling whom?
