Re: Numbers from Bengal
by Prasun Pradhan on May 11, 2009 06:33 PM
If your result be true, I shall give you a party, whatever u want to eat. Really we expect it. We want to see a change that may be good or bad. This government`s age is that of myself. showed so many wrong things, now suddenly they are telling that let do industry like `chal chhuri tor biye di`. Prasun, japan.
Re: Numbers from Bengal
by Sandeep Mukherjee on May 11, 2009 05:37 PM
actual figs are : left front 30, TMC Cong 12, apart from these, darjiling may go to BJP if there is no repolling in the hills where there was massive rigging and ghising's supporters' votes were not allowed to be cast.
Re: Numbers from Bengal
by mailme alladin on May 11, 2009 04:00 PM
The other day, your party leader Dinesh Trivedi was giving Left 10 seats all India. But you are generous to give Left 10 in west bengal alone.
Re: Re: Numbers from Bengal
by deepak on May 11, 2009 04:06 PM
i just spoke what i think will b the result.Its really tough to win against CPM in bengal.CPM have a strict & disciplined cadre base in Bengal.They are very cunning.TMC/Congress will win just bcoz the opposition votes are combined this year.
Re: Re: Re: Numbers from Bengal
by mailme alladin on May 11, 2009 04:09 PM
Well, in last loksabbha Congress TC vote percentage was 36% where as CPM's 50 %. So combining TC Congress will not make much of difference. They may win few seats more.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Numbers from Bengal
by deepak on May 11, 2009 04:12 PM
u r giving overall figure of bengal.in many places,the margin difference was very low.
Re: Is this effect ?
by mailme alladin on May 11, 2009 04:01 PM
Oh, I didn't know about that report. Good to know that. Can you please give me the link to that article. I want to enjoy reading it. Shameless rediff.
Re: Is this effect ?
by Prosenjit Kundu on May 11, 2009 03:54 PM
http://www.rediff.com/election/2009/may/05loksabhapoll-trinamool-mob-attacks-rediff-contributor.htm
Re: Re: Is this effect ?
by mailme alladin on May 11, 2009 04:10 PM
Thanks for the link. I want to see a day when Ananda Bazar and Bartaman reporters are beaten by TC supporters. The days may not be far off.
Its true that CPM is bad in WB mainly because of its 32 yrs of rule..there are many anti social elements in it..but the opposition led by MAMTA..is pathetic...just an exmaple..she is protesting for land for a power plant in Katwa & at the same time..vandalising electricity offices during loadshedding..she only knows to protest the left..but doesnt know why she is protesting..BJP unfortunately doesnt have any hold in the elctions..very few people like me vote 4 them
Re: CPM
by Prasun Pradhan on May 11, 2009 06:43 PM
what rubbish r u people talking? Mamata is protesting against the kind of land aquisition. if oneday morning u get a notice that ur house is accused by government because govt will do a it firm, 100 will people will get job in this firm, i think u people will be happy. singur is like that. if u protest, police and cpm cadre will give u proper education. I wish to see such situation happens with each of u people.
Re: CPM
by mailme alladin on May 11, 2009 04:05 PM
She is opposing land aquisition for highway in south 24 parganas. But her party leader Subhaprasanna has recently bought land along the proposed project. As some one mentioned, Some Mitra bought land in Singur and he staged dharna with Mamata to save agriculture land.
Re: CPM
by rumki majumder on May 11, 2009 04:18 PM
yes arunava ..u r right.We need a change but we can;t trust MAMTA as she is very much greedy to get the power in West bengal at any cost . We are being suffered by her aimless ,brainless protest.May god give her some good thoughts.:)
Re: Re: CPM
by Sanjeeb roy on May 11, 2009 04:31 PM
It is very sad that women in west bengal are the hardest critics of mamta.Mamta recently showed lot of restrain this time.Yes no body wants to see her as CM.But seats of CPM must go down.She alone fought with mighty CPM.She showed enormus courage.That is why CPM is scared.What CPM did earlier getting back with same coin.See in Nandigram now who is craeting disturbance??????????? CPm alone and now they got real bashing so the truce.
Re: Re: Re: CPM
by Sandeep Mukherjee on May 11, 2009 05:26 PM
every sane woman or man is against mamta! only those who want a short cut to power are with her! they know fully well that she is a megalomaniac and mentally far gone!still they want to cash in on her popularity among the auto wallahs and rabble rousers!
The CPM here dont want that the villages or poor people should progress.their thinking is " JODI PET A BHAT HOBE TAHOLE MICHILE KE JABE ??" Means if you have food in ur stomach then who else will go for CPM in agitations,strikes.
Re: Another reality of Bengal
by RG on May 11, 2009 04:18 PM
the latest estimates after 4th round indicate 128 for cong(Itly) and 158 for Ulta Pada Anda...on 18th gau bachda to run for shltr as partymn after their cl0ths..
Re: Another reality of Bengal
by mailme alladin on May 11, 2009 04:19 PM
Boss, CPM has done enough to give bhat to everyone in west bengal, although they failed to develope in other areas.
Re: Re: Another reality of Bengal
by deepak on May 11, 2009 04:26 PM
Yes,u r right.when other states can afford to give biriyani to their people,CPM is still giving rotten rice to poor people in bengal.Have u seen the quality of rice given in PDS(Publice Distribution System) here???Just go and check today.
Re: WE WANT CHANGE
by sajal mukherjee on May 11, 2009 03:52 PM
I think no one can bring change until and unless people of WB understands thing ,but it seems from 30 years now they have accepted everything and dont want to change becomes , days are not far when WB will become even worst then Bihar anyways most of the bihar population is already working in WB , so time is not far when bengal will also become blister in map of India
Re: Re: WE WANT CHANGE
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 04:10 PM
Sajal, We want some reports from genuine sources that justify your claims...I guess, it's all your assumptions. Please let us know where did you get these information from?
If u want to start a business or industry here,the movement u finalise the space....a red flag will b kept there!!!u will have to plan everything according to the local CPM leader.u cannot recruit the staff of ur choice,u have to recruit those who r recommended by the CPM goons!!its really pathetic.
Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 03:44 PM
Do you mind sharing sources of these information? or it's all your own assumptions?
Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 03:48 PM
mr somnath do u live in bengal or anywhere else? do u need the source of information for this. Mr somnath, open ur eyes and see what is happening. don't be so happy sitting in houses enjoing bandh twice or thrice a month. that is the culture of you communists.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 04:49 PM
m i to show u on camera that ppl are enjoying bandh called by several parties on different days. you can't change the misrule of leftists. it was my practical experience. i m unable to recollect the date. but for that don't be soooo pervert to claim that there is no bandh in bengal. It is rightly said " Sab Janta Gamchha Wala"... if you ppl are so sensitive then the leftists won't have ruled bengal for so many years. you need not to be so arrogant for "thrice" bandh word.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 06:29 PM
Its because of your perception about WB that is atleast 10 yrs old. WB has changed and its been 10 years, but you are still living with those perception...its very evident...you cannot even provide one single instance to support your argument...Please, STOP talking now!
Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by Ajoy Sen on May 11, 2009 03:52 PM
Mr. Bipresh, it is proved that you do not live in Bengal. So do not make any comments on Bengal.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by bipresh on May 11, 2009 04:15 PM
@mr ajay, @mr somnath, yes for ur information.. i live in bengal but work outside. it is the problem u ppl may have habituated but for me it is very disgusting. whenever i go to my native place, i come to know that today is the bandh.even called by non existance SUCI and see ppl are enjoying that bandh. this has become the culture of bengal. it is very sad to see but that's the truth.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 04:23 PM
bipresh, We have asked for specific information about your allegations...it's very easy to say all these, but can you really prove it? Don't talk if you cannot justify your words.
You said we had bandhs thrice a month..Okay...but, when? tell me just one instance...if you can't. then keep your mouth shut, because you are lying!
Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 03:51 PM
then, you cannot generalize it like this...it's just happened to a few people...may be.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by ABHIJIT on May 11, 2009 04:11 PM
Hi,Indians will not accept communism. Don't waste your time in justifying it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 04:18 PM
Abhijit, Where is communism in India? India is a multi-party democracy...don't you know? CPM is just another political party and believes in democracy...that's why they take part in elections...
Re: Reality of bengal !!!
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 03:58 PM
In which state you do not have to abide by the local neta and bhai? don't just talk for talkiing's sake.
The History of Communist speak volume of corruption when the power gets in to their head.Look at the USSR past some of whom you could spot in UK and USA who are possibly therichest in the world and all of them were Communist masters.There is same story in West Bengal.Few like Mr Budhadeb Babu who still practice honesty the rest are least say is better.They have created Caders on Pay Role and created union in Police to make sure that the Election mechanism is under their control this was also to some extent helped of their good work in the village.But the disease got in to their blood and they started to treat others like slave only through Money,Muscle gun culture.what we witness now is the begining of the end of that era.I dont think what Trinomul Leadership does is perfect but with some methodical control by vetern like Mr Pranab Mukherjee has the ability to transform this movement in to elimination of Worst period of West Bengal.It is time that this takes shape from this election.
Re: Re: Who will bring change?
by somnath bhowmick on May 11, 2009 03:37 PM
Unfortunately, Congress and BJP have negligible presence and almost invisible throughout the state.
Its been predicted every year by the people that this year WB will see a change but have anyone thought why it never changes. In last 30 years CPI has done nothing for WB except giving them red flags for strike and feeding local gunds called as CPI party workers. Every year in WB election booths are been raped by CPI gunds and knowing everything our corrupted media dont even bother to go their. So like every year CPI will win this year also by doing booth capturing openly without any fear and without any obligation.
Someone go to Wb and see how educated government employess actively join CPI and call it as party were they only go for timepass in evening and during the time of election these educated guys acts as socalized gunds for CPI
Re: CPI Gundas
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 03:32 PM
Hi, how old are you? Did you know that CPI and CPI(M) are two different parties? The person who doesn't know this difference, why would he dare talk politics?
Re: Re: CPI Gundas
by sajal mukherjee on May 11, 2009 03:41 PM
because i dont feel writing name of "Marx". If you have so good knowledge of CPM then you should start reading books of Russian revolution from 1917 when Marxism came to Russia and from being one of the most powerfull nation they splitted into bits and peaces.
Thanks God that u havent said WB stands for World Bank or Warner Bros.
Get your figure clear about CPM and then dare writing who even feels same to write his India name
Re: Re: Re: CPI Gundas
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 03:54 PM
You are an irrational fanatic then. BTW, have you heard another name -- Louis Althusser? Have you read his criticism of Lenin and his deviant humanism in the name of socialism?
Re: Re: Re: Re: CPI Gundas
by sajal mukherjee on May 11, 2009 04:13 PM
you are among those people who only read books and decide on the facts. I gave you an live example which is in front of the world not some sh..t written in some crap book.
So better get your eyes open and then see around to decide.So instead of going to libraries and reading books go out in WB and see what is happening and what next can happen may be you can have some realistic feeling instead of some imaginary Fantasies
Anyways your nick name suggest that you only live in a world of fantasies and fairy tales that you get from book which doesnt proves anything in the real world
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPI Gundas
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 04:27 PM
I belong to WB, and am very real. I do struggle to survive like many others. Calling Althusser "crap" only shows what an idiot and how intellectually bankrupt you are. So stop personal attacks and call it a day if you don't have anything substantial to talk about.