West Bengal allegedly one of the more educated states in India. Yet people have no clue they are voting in CENTRAL elections and not state elections. The fight should be BJP vs Congress. What is point of voting for Left/TMC. After the elections they will make deals and in case of Left if any government is made with its support, the Left simply won't allow it to undertake any reforms
Re: people have no sense of nation
by letsgo on May 11, 2009 02:29 PM
U r right. Even the so called intellectuals call for a change ( as if they Tagore or Subhash Bose or any of the holi Bengali cows !) . Even if the Left losses in al 42 seats, will that bring any change in WB straight away ? Change will come in 2011 assembly elections before which Singur or Nandigram will be faded out and new issue will crop in.
nano, nandigram, nayachar and the list continues.... What your beloved didi has done is witnessed by the young generations. And be sure she will never be back even as MP leave CM...
Re: didi's nightmare is left
by Guest on May 11, 2009 02:40 PM
Mr Damodar if u think that didi's night mare is left. u just tell every body wht is in bengal than other state. DO u know when we are staying at Delhi only House Hold Worker ( Kajer Meye ) means Bengali. Is This the introduction of Left. If u go to Mumbai there is so many hotels where washing man & Bar Girls are 60% Bengali is this Left??????????
CPM IS VERY GOOD FOR PUBLIC AS PER CPM.THEY MUST ANSWER ONLY ONE QUESTION.REASONS FOR NOT ABLE TO MAKE WEST BENGAL NO. 1 STATE IN THIRTY YEARS.IN MY VISION,THEY WILL NOT ABLE TO MAKE EVEN IN NEXT 100 YEARS AS THEY ARE NOT UP TO MARK.IS THERE ANY BODY TO COMPETE WITH MODI OR SHIELA DIXIT.ONLY CONGRESS OR BJP CAN MAKE THIS.PEOPLE MUST UNDERSTAND.WE MUST THROW AWAY PARTIES WHICH ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DEVELOPMENT.
Re: CPM In West Bengal
by Tarun Chaturvedi on May 11, 2009 02:21 PM
Supportive statement. We should support onle 3-4 parties so that castism, state politics goes out of the Indian politics. Earlier only Congress was there - monopoly and they didnt do anything for the country but now there is competition and we should vote for a party who works for development and for country.
Re: CPM In West Bengal
by Ajayan Puthuppully on May 11, 2009 02:42 PM
Ever thought about the history? Why the the INC strong hold of WB opted red marxist? There must be a reason for the people to keep them for 30 years. The metro buildings shall not be the yard stick to measure the human developments and social developments & security.
Re: CPM In West Bengal
by Tushar Ray on May 11, 2009 02:34 PM
The current State Govt., is spineless & led by misinformations. The part led by Mamata Banerjee is no great shakes either. Funniest part is they will join hands at the centre to keep out BJP. Frustrating part is, the so called educated , well informed citizens of West Bengal (read asses) will turn out in hordes to vote for either CPM or TMC
though Bengalis have been in the forefront of the nationalist movement and the whole freedom struggle owes a lot to the fanatic fervour of the bengali people, they were the ones who got divided brutally by partition and thereafter went under the hammer and sickle. My heart bleeds for the Bengalis sometimes if you look at things from an outsider's perspective.
They have had a bad partition, even though it is rarely mentioned as opposed to the other side of the country (with Pakistan).
They have had their cultural fabric torn with hindus and muslims separating (I firmly believe that Bengalis are people who would prefer to be united as bengalis even if they are of different faiths as the bond of language is very strong).
And finally, they went into a sort of hibernation and stagnation under the communist rule. It has blunted the edge they used to have earlier, and rather than being in the forefront of India's development, they have instead been forced by successive governments to build walls around themselves, act with a superior air, which has had the effect of isolating them from mainstream India. Rather than being the voice of the majority, they have been reduced to be the voice of protest always.
Just for once, it would be great to see Bengal under a different party, hopefully a strong one, which can usher in some developmental projects in this great state of ours and start the ball rolling for a bright future.
Re: Frankly
by preetam bhattacharya on May 11, 2009 02:47 PM
I disagree with you.The issue in Bengal is that the the opposition leadership is Didi of Bengal (Miss Banerjee) & we all know how she is.Sometimes she is with Congress sometimes with BJP.She dont have a concrete agenda of her own of how she wants to lead the state.As railway minister we have seen her performance.I will not be surprised if this time she forms an alliance with BJP after the election.
Re: Re: Frankly
by Prashanth DSouza on May 11, 2009 02:59 PM
Preetam, my writing is meant in general terms. I am not saying that one party is bad and the other is good. In the end, the people have to decide, no one else can do it for them. However, there is a history of memories in this state, and it is not easy to be in their shoes. I am just empathising with the people.
Re: Frankly
by Tushar Ray on May 11, 2009 02:41 PM
Prasanth, your observation is quite correct. Bengalis, due to systematic brainwashing by the ruling party, has fallen by the wayside. Education, health, infrastructure, everything has failed. The state is currently being run by hooligan promoters, unscrupulous traders and lawless auto drivers. Mind you bringing in TMC or Congress will not change the system, as the rot has set in like malignant cancer
Media also seems to get carried away. They, many a times make predictions based on a limited view. The Opinion and Exit polls are almost always wrong because they predict on a sample survey of less then 1%. In this article, the reporter is predicting demise based on her tour of Nandigram. After the Nandigram fiasco, the whole country knows that Leftists have become redundant in Nandigram area but Nandigram is not entire Bengal. You cannot predict some party's demised based on one area. Had she predicted that Leftists will get lesser number of seats, that would have been accurate. But she is hoping for much more and I do not think that possible. There are bound to be areas where people are angry towards Mamata! The same media predicted wipe off of BJP in 2007 assembly elections, rout of Leftists in last assembly elections and even 2004 Lok sabha elections. They say that Indian Voter is not open when they are proved wrong. The fact is they never bother to reach to larger cross section of people before making their predictions. They simply tour one region and base their predictions on that.
Re: Media also tends to get carried away
by Prashanth DSouza on May 11, 2009 02:19 PM
Well i guess the writer is asking a question rather than predicting a change. It is not yet decided for sure, and there is no prediction actually.
Mamata banerjee will never become CM of west bangal, this is her wildest dream. Left will rule e for the decades to come and bring prosperity to the people of bengal. AND THIS IS THE REALITY!!!
Re: Didi's never...
by Vinal Gandhi on May 11, 2009 02:19 PM
So far, they have managed to bring prosperity to themselves only! So two options are left. Either the comrades will be satisfied with their amassed wealth and start thinking of enriching people. Or, each and every person in West Bengal will become a member of one or the other leftist parties and then the parties will take care of them!
Re: Didi's never...
by damodar on May 11, 2009 02:15 PM
nano, nandigram, nayachar and the list continues.... What your beloved didi has done you morons
Re: Didi's never...
by Subrata Sen on May 11, 2009 02:19 PM
Even I do agree that Mamata can be one of the worst CM's ever....her policies are extremely bad and it will be highly detrimental for WB to get an CM of that sort. But on the other hand, Left has also ruined the state. Just after Independance, WB was the leading industrialised state but now most industrialists think umpteen number of times to invest in the state. If Left comes again, they should change their views and follow Mr Modi who has done excellent things to make Gujarat one of the leading states of India.
Re: Didi's never...
by Netflix on May 11, 2009 02:13 PM
Well! We know the kind of prosperity CPM has given to west Bengal! In 30 years of CPM rule, WB has reduced from one of the richest and most industrialized state to one of the worst state in terms of economic progress. Only a "Murkh" like you can talk of progress under left rule.
Re: Didi's never...
by Netflix on May 11, 2009 02:13 PM
Well! We know the kind of prosperity CPM has given to west Bengal! In 30 years of CPM rule, WB has reduced from one of the richest and most industrialized state to one of the worst state in terms of economic progress. Only a "Murkh" like you can talk of progress under left rule.
Re: Didi's never...
by Prashanth DSouza on May 11, 2009 02:20 PM
Well i guess the writer is asking a question rather than predicting a change. It is not yet decided for sure, and there is no prediction actually.
Re: Re: Didi's never...
by deepti de on May 11, 2009 02:29 PM
All rd side vendors and Illegal Autos pay LEVY to OUR party. Then why should WE eradicate them?
Re: Re: Didi's never...
by damodar on May 11, 2009 02:22 PM
I agree with you, but development comes when opposition also takes part in the development proces. But the recent drama in singur, nandigram, national Hioghway blockage for 10 days... who has done it...
God willing and this forecast comes true!. Entire nation will be relieved of last 30 yrs' blackmail tactics adopted ny Left parties in opposing everything that is good for the country.They have pushed the nation 50 yrs back in just last 5 yrs of their rule, by extending outside support to UPA. West bengal and Kerala -the mindset of people of these two states are unpredictable and it is very hard to understand why they vote left Parties to power again and again.Both the States are very backward in Industrial growth, agricultural growth and all other growth parameters.Typical mindset.If a Govt is formed at Newdelhi either by NDA or UPA without the support of left parties,that will be a faantastic news for India Inc, stock market,etc etc.
Re: GOD WILLING!!!
by priyadarshan on May 11, 2009 02:10 PM
common people of WB clearly saw true colour of comies. Now people of kerala are still in fools paradise. God knows When will they awake and walk out of the clutches of thies enemies of propgress and prosperity.
Re: Re: INDUSTRIALISATION & DEVELOPEMENT DRIVE W.B. GOVT. IS
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 03:27 PM
on public forums, we can all see the level of english of the people from other states. the debate of language teaching is a global debate, practical implementation was problematic, true.
white paper is there, try and find out. it's been published last september.
Re: INDUSTRIALISATION & DEVELOPEMENT DRIVE W.B. GOVT. IS AN E
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 02:12 PM
Why Kolkata is the oldest city? Why the Britishers didn't imagine such big cars, and so many? Why whole of Eastern India has to depend on Howrah station? Why Kolkata feeds most parts of the adjacent states? Why at the time of Partition WB was conceived such a small area? Why setting up an industry and getting the clearance from the Centre has been so difficult all through last 60 years? Why coal resources that are in the state itself is cessed higher here than other states?
Why someone would think of an EYEWASH for the BLIND?
Re: Re: INDUSTRIALISATION & DEVELOPEMENT DRIVE W.B. GOVT. IS
by Sanjeeb roy on May 11, 2009 02:17 PM
That's the CPM thinks.keep above issues alive and ask the same question every election blaming central.Doing nothing for improvement.
Re: Re: INDUSTRIALISATION & DEVELOPEMENT DRIVE W.B. GOVT. IS
by Indian on May 11, 2009 02:29 PM
Dear Hamletetc., 1) Delhi is older than Kolkata, 2) Other cities learnt to think after the British left, but Kolkata couldn't, 3) There is similar dependence on Mumbai for western india, well that's functioning smoothly so far. 4) Please clarify what do you mean by Kolkata feeds most part of the adjacent states. In simple Political science, dependency on a developed city will increase if adjacent areas are under developed or less developed. That way even Mumbai & Delhi feed large number of Bengalis, Tamils, UPites. 5) West Bengal was conceived to be of this area much before the time of partition, during 1901. Please read history. 6) If setting up an industry was so difficult, how other states have so many industries? Or you meant WB was given a raw deal? 7) If you are talking about coal in open market then one reason could be to discourage use of coal as a domestic fuel. It produces CO. Sale of coal to the power plants & steel plants (which is the main use of coal in India) is controlled by Central Govt & determined by the negotiation between the respective ministries. There is something called a brainwash which is applicable to blalso.
Re: Re: Re: INDUSTRIALISATION & DEVELOPEMENT DRIVE W.B. GOVT.
by Hamlet ThePrinceOfDenmark on May 11, 2009 03:22 PM
1. Kolkata is older in the sense that it is the first british capital. where was your n. delhi then? the road plans and old architectures are still existing as constraints for road developments etc.
2. 3. 4. No other metro city had to accomodate so many partition refugees. no comparison is possible here. kolkata's position is unique.
5. original partition plan was there in 1901-05, and the partition map never changed after that. limited knowledge in history on your part is evident.
6.&7. yes kolkata is always specially treated ill with unexplained animousity. the congress leaders never wanted S. P. Mukherjee's state to develop and flourish. this point was raised not by the left but by B. C. Roy, and even Atulya Ghosh, both congress affiliates. the coal cess policy that you talk about is a post-90's thing. try to learn how it was like before that.
