Re: If BJP : Modi Yes - Advani No
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 04:57 PM
Myself Bharat Jalao Party is not just biased against 1 big minority community but against all innocent Indians except the Majority religion. For the Bharat Jalao Party only the Majority community have a right to call themselves Indians the rest have only 2 choices either leave India or die at the hands of the Bharat Jalao Party. Which is the reason we should all vote negatively against them & throw them out of our Country in the ongoing elections.
Re: Does he not sound famillier.
by Chiru P on May 02, 2009 03:05 PM
People like Prashanth Mardolkar should stay and live in regions for a year and see the differences.
Can such people Accept this challange? Take you family along with all women relatives and live in AF-PAK country for a year. Stay another year - Preferable 6 months in hindoos majority region and 6 months in Mus1lim majority regions.
And then comment if on your own statements and see how funny it is to compare AF-PAK with Karnatka? or comparing with Shariyat with Hindutva.
Re: Re: Does he not sound famillier.
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:12 PM
Chiru may be followers of the Bharat Jalao Party who are the murderers of 1000s of innocent Indians cannot see nor accept the one common fact that there is no diffce betwn the Mullah in Af-Pak advocating Shariah & the Bharat Jalao Party advocating Hindutva in India. But thankfully there are many Indians like Prashant who can see that there is no diffce between Taliban's Shariah & Bharat Jalao Party's Hindutva. Both Taliban & the Bharat Jalao Party mean the same thing Chiru. Both want only the majority community to be called citizens & both want to finish off the minority communities.
Re: Does he not sound famillier.
by jaggu on May 02, 2009 02:32 PM
We can accept hindutwa because it will not kill minorities but we can reject Shariat because it kills minority.
Re: Re: Does he not sound famillier.
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:32 PM
Jaggu as a Sane Indian I have nothing against Shariah / Hindutva. But Shariah as propogated by the TALIBAN kills in the same way as Hindutva propogated by the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party. Both kill minorities under diff pretexts which is the reason why both should not be acceptable.
less than 2% of India's christain population controls 65% of medical instuitutions including and 55% of the educational institutions. All the nethas barking about hindutva want to study in the schools, colleges controlled by the christians *(Example son of Raj thackry,Daughter of BJP leader sadhananda Gowda,Mahendra Kumar a bajrangi and many more).what a shame.
Even fool in mangalore and udupi knows better that only miracle can get BJP in to power in these 2 areas.
Re: what a shame
by Shanker Shetty on May 02, 2009 03:18 PM
soon kangress will be out of business in delhi too, they will fight elections is pakistan. are you following them to pak?
Re: what a shame
by Don Kernash on May 02, 2009 02:25 PM
Having control over bussinesses doesnt mean having control over masses, if we go by your explanations then Ambanis and Tatas would have become PMs of India very long ago.
Re: what a shame
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:23 PM
kavita, majority of the educational institutions in Mangalore are under the Control of Pai family. Why are you bluffing??
Re: what a shame
by Indian on May 02, 2009 02:28 PM
Just minuse those medical institutions and educational institutions and imagine how many will be left afterwards. I owe my eductaion to a christian institute
Re: Re: what a shame
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:22 PM
Indian, you might owe your education to some X'tian institutions but that is not the case of 97% of Indias. There are just 45000 Missionary run institutions in India (from Schools to Medical/Engg colleges) that is almost in proportion to the X'tian population. More over they are running just "teaching shops". They demand their pound of flesh (donation, capitation fees, etc) even from the poor X'tians.
Re: Re: Re: what a shame
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:31 PM
JGN why are you bothered about other people's religion when you repeatedly profess to be an Atheist. But then again what can a follower of the Bharat Jalao Party, the mass murderers of 1000s of innocent Indians preach. They can like you only preach hatred & lies. FYI I studied in a Christian Missionary school & college all my life & my parents never paid a single penny as donations or capitation fees ever to these institutions. These institutions that I studied from never ever demanded their so called pound of flesh but have always known them to be charitable to the poor. You might have attended a teaching shop which is very apparent from your posts but I haven't. Both my school & college were Christian Missionary institutions yes but never ever where they teaching shops nor did they ever demand their pound of flesh. Get your hateful, bigoted, zealot glasses off your eyes & don't pretend to be an atheist when you are actually not. Don't pretend to be an Indian when you are actually an agent of the mass murderers the Bharat Jalao Party.
Re: Re: Re: Re: what a shame
by JGN on May 02, 2009 07:09 PM
pamsask, I do not care for those who speculate about what I am. It would be better if you restrict your comments to my messages.
Have you heard of Justice Muhammad Committee appointed by the Govt of Kerala? That is for fixing the fee-structure of Private Engg and Medical Colleges as they were charging exhorbitant fees (of course that includes Institutes run by others also). so keep your skwed logic for yourslef and your ilk.
I had first hand experience of the extortion tactics of Missionary run Schools. So I don't have to depened on you. And don't pretend that you are not a X'tian.
Re: Re: Re: Re: what a shame
by Suman on May 03, 2009 10:19 AM
I also studied in christian schools. They took me to churches and taught bible. Now, my children are going to Sharada Vidhyala, Canara, Kushe or any other CBSE schools.
all of u people will not know about slow poison... alchol is slow poison...ciggratee slow poison...like x-tin slow poison....initially u will not know by going to chrch / reading the book / going with friends to pryer hall..... shortly they will convert u and the hindu name with ur generation will stop......
Re: slow poison..Christians
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:49 PM
Saravanan I have studied in Christian Missionary schools & college all my life. Noone ever told me I should read the bible or go to church. Infact those Christian Missionary institutions always taught all students to respect all religions. They have never ever forced me to convert to Christianity but on the contrary have always taught me to respect my own religion first & then respect all religions. Christians under the Brits ruled India for more than 200 yrs. If they wanted to wipe out Hinduism from the face of India & wanted them to be converted to Christianity then believe me 200 odd yrs were more than enough to do so. That never happened & is not happening even today. Hindus were a majority religion even then & are still a majority religion. Don't just blindly follow the Bharat Jalao Party. Use your brains that is if you have any sensible grey matter still left in that brain of yours. Bharat Jalao Party always wants to grab power & they can do so only by preaching hatred & creating a sense of paranoia where there exists none. Get real. Get your bigoted, zealot, biased glasses off your eyes & then see the world. You will be shocked by your own views that have been given to you by the Bharat Jalao Party.
Re: Re: slow poison..Christians
by JGN on May 02, 2009 07:14 PM
pamsask, now you want us to be grateful for the X'tians in India for the Britishers not converting us!!!! Have you ever read History and know why they were not able to convert??
After the experiences in the Great Mutiny, the British Government took every precaution to respect the sentiments of the troops in re1igious matters and this is one of the major reasons why the Indian Government gave no official encouragement to missionary propaganda. Moreover, it provided priests for their respective religions for Hiindus, Siikhs and Musliims in the army, a matter of considerable importance in safeguarding India from the proselytizing aggression of Western missionary bodies.
Re: Re: Re: slow poison..Christians
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:50 PM
That great mutiny you are talking about JGN was possible coz every single INDIAN be it Hindu, Muslim, Sikhs, Christians, Jews, Jains, Parsis etc under the leadership of Bahadur Shah Zafar stood UNITED against their common enemy the Brits. I know my History better than the fake one taught to you by the mass murdering Bharat Jalao Party coz I am a History graduate. The Brits that came to India to begin with were progressive, forward thinking & pro Indian. You may not have read wonderful works of some early Brits who were more Indian then most Indians who loved India like we do. It was only towards 1847 when the Brits had become too arrogant after ruling for several yrs towards all religions in India that resulted in the Mutiny that you refer to. The fat used in the cartridges were just a catalyst to spark off a mutiny coz the anti Brit sentiments was brewing already for the past some yrs against the new age arrogant Brits as compared to their pro Indian predesecors. The mutiny was a wake up call for the royal fly in London that they could not leave the most coveted jewel in their crown in the hands of businessmen alone so the crown thereafter ruled over India for another 100 yrs till 1947. I am not in favour of either the Brit or US. I hate them both equally.
Re: Re: Re: Re: slow poison..Christians
by JGN on May 04, 2009 05:09 PM
Which History book taught you that the Britishers came to India for improving the lot of the natives??? Pl stop bluffing.
Re: slow poison..Christians
by kavitha on May 02, 2009 02:08 PM
then why advani still not become chirtian despite studying in christain schools and colleges ?
Re: Re: slow poison..Christians
by JGN on May 02, 2009 07:11 PM
Because your X'tian schools were only interested in making money and befooling the tribals/dalits in the name in the name of non-existent g0ds and heaven. They cannot befool affluent H1ndus.
dear converted xstinas in india, please watch KAALAAPAANI movie. (available in hindi, tamil. telugu, malayalam). it helps u stop li-ck-ing roman empires stick.
Re: Re: dear converted xstians
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:35 PM
Very well said Prashant. I fully agree with you. Such mass murderers need to hanged or need to be locked up forever & the keys to that lock to be thrown in the ocean to be lost forever so that such mass murderers called the Bharat Jalao Party & their croonies the SS, MNS, VHP, RSS, the numerous Dals & Sanghs can never ever kill other innocent Indians & spoil the name of India. India before them was a peace loving, tolerant country. After them India's name has been internationally spoiled as one that preaches intolerance & hatred towards other religions even though the Constitution of the Repub of India gives = rights to all religions in India. Kick out of India these communal parties in this ongoing elections.
I had a christan collegue in my office who belonged to Orissa, we staff members never think of him any different but infact we liked him very much due to his humbleness, we used to go church (at Connoght Place) with him on saturdays and used to eat Cakes which he brought in the office for a kind of festival known a easter something. Last year one day before diwali we had Laxmi Puja in our office where all the staff people prayed but this xian (who was our friend) refused to pray by saying "bible forbids" STRANGE !!!! We were shocked, its okay if he doesnt belive but he could have done it to keep our hearts just like we used to visit church and pray to keep his heart but indeed he proved that a Xtian not an indian.
Re: Shame on your Xitians
by Neo on May 02, 2009 03:38 PM
do you think if you said NO to your friend that you wont go to church with him.. would he have publicized the issue like you have done? and if he had come with you to the temple then you would belive that he is Indian??? where do you stay might?? No Christian has to prove that he is Indian by visiting the temple and also likewise No Hindu is required to prove himself that he is secular by visiting a church or mosque.. if ths is how you rate people then sorry bro.. I pity you..
Re: Re: Shame on your Xitians
by Sonu Madhavan on May 02, 2009 04:03 PM
well said Neo i agree with u fully ok it is right that christanity may prohibit others religions worship but it does not me that he is not an indian. Indianissm is not a religion
Re: Shame on your Xitians
by jhon k on May 02, 2009 01:20 PM
Yeah there are some fools who do not understand what to take and what to trash from the books !! But pls do not bracket the whole community with this experience. There are vast majority who are otherwise.
Re: Re: Shame on your Xitians
by Don Kernash on May 02, 2009 01:26 PM
On this board you can calculate your fellow xiatns are like that guy too, you being an exception. This is the cause of real damage.
Re: Shame on your Xitians
by GODAVARTI RAmesh on May 02, 2009 01:38 PM
Secularism has been given a wrong interpretation in India. According to OXFORD dictionery it means being non religious and non spiritual. It is your mistake really. You should not have gone to church. you should not have invited him to the puja. You should have only eaten the cake. Let religion be personal . Do not make it a public issue.
Re: Re: Shame on your Xitians
by Don Kernash on May 02, 2009 02:31 PM
Secularism means eirther to accept all relegions or to accept none. I am not making this issue public but higlighting the mindframe and attitude of a typical Xtian and yes this MUST be known to everybody so that people should stop having expectations from them. Better Late than Never.
Re: Re: Re: Shame on your Xitians
by jose vas on May 02, 2009 04:07 PM
mr kernash ..wht u wan say about orrisa ha raping nun going on voilence killing people burning down chuches ...what u will say to that this was doen by hindus ...why??wht u wan say about that..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on your Xitians
by jayaraj on May 02, 2009 05:16 PM
The nasty christian missionaries under the pretext of service converts people. Howcome christianity increased in that are so fast and even went to kill the swamy who protested it? The ultimate aim of every christian is to convert!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on your Xitians
by JGN on May 02, 2009 04:31 PM
jose vas, such things happen in other Countries also. No use blaming only H1ndus. Go to the web of "Jihad Watch" and understand for yourslef. Of course I condemn such incidents, but think of the causes of the same also.
Re: Shame on your Xitians
by pamsask on May 02, 2009 05:41 PM
Don I have studied in Christian Missionary schools & colleges all my life. I was never ever forced by any teacher or friend to come to Church. There was no question of saying NO coz they never asked. Noone ever in those institutions ever asked me to forget my own religion & convert to Christianity. Infact all my student life in those very same institutions that you are blaming now I was always taught to respect all religions. Never ever was I once given any discourse on Christianity in any of the educational institutions that I studied in all over India. Stop this blind hatred for other religions. According to the Constitution of the Repub of India every religion has = rights.
Re: Shame on your Xitians
by jayaraj on May 02, 2009 05:15 PM
christianity the cult members now are spreading like cancer in the body. I want to bring in another story of a neighbouring child in our town whose familyu got converted..after the conversion, this child never meetsup with hindu friends..the child says that his parents told that he should make friends with christian friends!!! They dont take even hindu prasad.A girl who works for us used to light the lamp in our house at the alter, was scared to light the lamp as she said the priest told her it is satanic to pray to other Gods and Jesus is the only God..This is how christianity is being spread in India!!!! This cult will meet its tragic end with another man made religion.Every Indian has to be careful of conversion as it tears the social fabric of this great country. In Kerala and Eastern Sates of India, Christianity rules even the respective governements and the majoriy is left to watch the vote bank politics of parties dictate the them!!!!
Re: RSS should be banned
by KMR Overseas on May 02, 2009 01:08 PM
Ban Vatican too. Pope still not apologized for the ethnic cleansing of millions in Europe by earstwhile Pope.
Re: Re: RSS should be banned
by jose vas on May 02, 2009 04:14 PM
their a lot diffrence between pope an rss...an so called taliban ..rss is small drope of water ???it will vanished with a second ...jut mind yr own religion wht y hindus do raping nuns ,going on voilence ,killing inocent people is religion ...keep it up u talibans
Re: Re: RSS should be banned
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:54 PM
KMR why does India need to ban the Vatican and ask the Pope to apologize to anyone coz some stupid Christians fought some stupid Muslims & that too eons ago in some parts of Europe. FYI the modern day Popes have all disowned the Crusades a long time ago.
In reality, it is the duty of the govt to set up schools & hospitals in the rural areas & for poor. Congress govts after 1947 failed miserably in that.
Congress gave a free hand to missionaries since 1947 in return for huge political & personal monetary aid. Missionaries funded the election for the Congress & in return got free hand to convert in the disguise of serving the poor.
Now, the missionaries have become so powerful that they influence media, use media to blame RSS. RSS is the biggest roadblock in their dangerous attempts.
Re: congress responsible for giving free hand to missionaries
by Ram on May 02, 2009 02:18 PM
RSS should come openly and reconvert all christians to Hinduism since these people were born in India and make India an Hindustan as early as possible
Re: Re: congress responsible for giving free hand to missionaries
by pamsask on May 04, 2009 02:56 PM
Ram I am neither a Hindu nor a Muslim nor a Christian but I am still an Indian / Bhartiya not a HINDUSTANI.
